What's new
  • ICMag with help from Landrace Warden and The Vault is running a NEW contest in November! You can check it here. Prizes are seeds & forum premium access. Come join in!

Paraguayan Landrace Sativa

Flying Goat

Member
Hmmm... I know one goat sitting on a fat pile of beans from the shitty pressed brick.. Sorted for cracks & I'll be taking a crack at some myself this year...

Grown with love & tenderness (and a bit of GiveADam) these can produce lovely smooth leathery-fruity smelling foxtails. A pleasure if given a proper grow & cure, the guerrilla manner is just disgusting.

Pressed green, inclusive of fan leaves, bugs & whatever bit of trash lodged within, you end up with dark brown or black brick that reeks of cat piss & if dry enough, tastes like an old horse turd...

TLC is all the difference. :bis:
 

Rinse

Member
Veteran
Hello there Goat ;)
Seems the Paraguay Sativa has a lot of potential, but the cure methods are one of the worst, at least in most other countries they let the herb dry a bit before bricking, and trim the fan leaves lol.
Let us know how they grow with proper care.
 

blan-k-flor

Well-known member
Veteran
I´ve grown some paraguayans from brick seeds. Here two of them, from a few years ago:). The 2 first pics from one of them and the last from a Pedro Juan Caballero lady.

picture.php


picture.php


picture.php
 

Rinse

Member
Veteran
That first pic is the perfect pot bush Blan-k-flor!
Do you remember how they smoked?
 

blan-k-flor

Well-known member
Veteran
Of course i remember it bro:biggrin:. She smelled like rotten onions and the high was great, heart pounding and almost psychedelic, the kind of high i like most:). I crossed it with a KC33 male i remember:)...

picture.php
 

Flying Goat

Member
That's it... I just found out my friend is sitting on handfulls of Paraguyan that has never been bricked. Some of the beans I recovered from brick have difficulty germinating (a friend has tried), but others here have great success... I am replacing the ones I sent another with these fresh, never pressed beans & hoping for big success.

Excellent vigor. The taste/smell difference varies from catpiss & horse turd to fruity & sweet. Depends on the care they get & quality of soil.

NICE pictures. When not in pots, they get to about 7 ft tall. Branching is about the same. Yours are beautiful, sir.
 

idiit

Active member
Veteran
i've got the paraguay hash sativa, paraguay choco chiba and paraguay cohiba ( one male, no females). i started a thread on the paraguay cohiba:https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=249786

i haven't grown any outdoors yet but am very pleased with what i've seen indoors so far on the paraguay cohiba. i took a freebe fem white widow (unnamed) and hit it with the lone cohiba male.the white widow didn't have much to it but the ww/paraguay cohiba when i grew out a female ww/cohiba indoors was very nice. i had some testers who i give bud to for second opinions sample the ww/cohiba and we all agreed she was very special. it is possible that paraguay cohiba is indeed the mom of white widow as she strongly resembled this report by jojogorzio:
Aloha is the seed company in Amsterdam that sells the strain AWW. The 98 circa produced the famous clone "sweet thang". It's rumored Aloha stole the original WW clone and crossed it to a mystery male. Some suggest it was a special Skunk male. The 2002 circa produced Jojorizos(RIP brotha) clone that he used in so many of his awesome crosses. He was really high on this plant and said it had it all. His female was a koolaid pheno he said was similar to the 98 sweet thang clone, but that there were a few koolaid phenos in a few packs of 2002 beans. I think aloha still uses the same parents to create AWW. More importantly, heres Jojo's take,

Hey Guys and Girls,
Nothing is more fun to talk about than the Aloha White Widow. My friend sent me a clone of the Sweet Thang 1998 AWW a couple years back but they did not survive the trip in our trusty mail system. I opted to try the seed route so I went direct to Aloha Amsterdam. I bought the then current 2002 vintage. It is identical to the 97, 98, etc. Vintages. Now sweet Thang was a special pheno with a Kool-Aid aroma and kick butt high. It is my experience that all of the plants are similar in aroma, taste, and high. Obviously there are slight differences depending on the pheno. I had one mother that yielded 3.39 oz single cola buds of the sweetest tasting crystal covered pot you can imagine. I think the Aloha White Widow smells just like the rock candy I used to get as a kid at the local homemade candy store. I am talking about pure sugar. The only problem with this strain is the buds are so big and dense that I had problems with bud rot on a number of occasions. I have that under control now with my secret ingrediant. The trichomes are just huge and totally out of control. The clubs marketed this strain as Crystal Lady rather than the bland old White Widow. This AWW does not resemble any White Widow I have ever seen no matter how nice they were. The high is hard hitting and immediate. For me I just don't need anything stronger than this. These plants are strong mommas as well. These branches aren't just twigs. They are strong enough to hold their own weight. And that is why I chose to breed with it. It passes on all the good traits when it is crossed with anything. I believe breeding with this plant will make any plant better. It will always be one of my favorites. I have used it in most of my best crosses and it has proved itself. As for the history of the Aloha White Widow it is a closely guarded secret. I enquired from Aloha Amsterdam concerning the parentage and they said it is secret. I have heard that it was the original White Widow that was ripped off and then crossed with a Super Skunk. I also heard several other stories and several other possible crosses. It may have been left here by aliens. No one knows what is in it. I do know it is great. My Crystal Locomotive is an example of what it can do. Another is the Widow Queen. My new cross using the Blowfish x Crystal Locomotive has turned out great. I have impressed myself with that one. In fact everything I made with the Crystal Locomotive is great and I think it is because of the Aloha White Widow. Beware of imitations. Nothing is the same as the AWW. Good luck.

jojorizo

i haven't tried out the ww/cohiba in crosses yet but got some angola red pollen itching to get into her calyx's. if ww/cohiba can improve angola red then that's saying something. :)


i just grew for a cohiba bx (ww/cohiba dominate)/cohiba. the ww had wider leaves, cohiba sativa leaf appearance. i've cloned the original ww/cohiba and will grow some outdoors next year if all goes well. i will picture document this strain when i get to running it. it is a top must run strain for me to do.

i just do this stuff for fun and i'm not claiming to have "98 aww. i do think from first indoor run that paraguay cohiba might be "the one" from the brazilian grower that shati got the ww mum from.

Really my Brazilan friend did not give it a name other than The One...his name to refer to it. So that is hopefully information to curb your inquisitiveness

^shanti on the ww mom:http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/black-wid...-sativa-3.html
 

idiit

Active member
Veteran
i bought quite a few brazilian seed company strains when luiz fritzman was closing shop and during email conversations he spoke of the paraguay strains as being very potent.

i've got a lot of strains to work outdoors but i will get to the cohibas and paraguay hash sativas and post pics in my albums. i've got some paraguay choco chiba pics in my albums now. i did not amend the soil properly in this grow so i'll put choco chiba in a very fertile area next year and do more pics.
 

Flying Goat

Member
Thanks for the heaps of info, guys! I really don't know anything about it, but there are several different strains, it seems. Some are just nasty, others are not so bad, and some are not bad at all. Most have a high that comes on hard and stays awhile... All taste & smell different as the concept of curing has never arrived here... All brick, unless you grow your own.

But I think with proper pampering & the same care we give our other cherished strains, these could prove to be valuable genetics for improving hardiness of other strains... And, not a bad smoke on their own, either, if not pressed & mashed while wet... <ewww!>
 

Latest posts

Latest posts

Top