Ozone will never hurt me forever

[pgtekin]

Hi ICs;
I just read an article said that some cutting edge chemical tech can help us to get rid of ozone tail gas problem.
Everyone knows that ozone can be obove 0.05ppm. However, if a 2g/hour ozone gen is used, the exhuasting ozone ppm will abs be over 0.5ppm. 0.5ppm
is too danger for people. Now some guys found some materials that can absorb ozone completely. The final ppm wil be below the 0.05ppm (safe).
Hope we can get this product asap. If it is true, I can purchase a large ozone gen to kill odor.

Cheers!
P.S.
The article's Abstract is:
It has been found that a carbon fibrous material characterized by the developed porous structure and predominance of basic surface groups, being a catalyst of low-temperature ozone decomposition, is also a suitable support for liquid-phase base (X ) catalysts (X[-] = OH[-], Br[-] and I[-]). The data obtained in the reaction kinetics study at an initial ozone concentration ranging from 3.1 x 10[-8] to 3.1 x 10[-7] mol/l show that the support raises considerably the activity of the base catalysts. The catalytic activity decreases in the following series: I > Br > OH.
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=987633

 

[HIDEyourBUD]

What did he just say?

 

[Guest]

activated carbon works for me..why use it to clean ozone when you can use it to clean the smell..cut out the middle man

 

[pgtekin]

Ozone Concentrations and Your Health

Ozone Concentrations and Your Health

Our Health and Ozone Concentrations' relationship is:

0.125 (1-h) TO 0.404 (8-h) ppm (VERY UNHEALTHY)
0.105 to 0.124 ppm (UNHEALTHY)
0.085 TO 0.104 ppm (UNHEALTHY FOR SENSITIVE GROUPS)
0.065 to 0.084 ppm (MODERATE)
0.000to 0.064 ppm (GOOD)
For a 1g/hour ozone generator, the concentration is about 64.65ppm for 270cfm. This is a dilemma: more high concentration of ozone means more powerful to kill VOC (volatile organic compounds). But VOC can't absorb all of ozone. Est 50% ozone will survive to go to exhausting pipe. The carbon filter will absorb 25% ozone. So there is about 25% ozone will go into house or apartment's air. It is .25X64.65ppm=16.ppm ozone concertration around your exhasuting port, 3232.5 times of safe ozone level.
On the other hand, ozone also react with activated carbon when they meet.
This reaction also short carbon's live.

It is also why lots sensetive guys smell ozone smell when run ozone generator.
So we need a solution:
1) Generate more high ozone to kill VOC (from the plants). Then less odor smoke out.
2) Less ozone reach activated carbon filter as possible.

This is why post this thread to explains.
The best solution is:
1) Using high prodcut ozone generator to oxided with VOC/odor.
2) Using variuos methods to decomposed ozone and VOC/odor.
3) Using carbon filter to absorb the VOC/odor and ozone.
Finally, we can get a <0.064ppm ozone as we wish.

 

[Berry_Coughin']

What? Are you telling me that when I stick my Air Lazer x2 in with my canfan I am NOT recharging it? I use the same filters for over 2 years...... and when they get stuffed I throw em in a closet with my ozone over night and, I could swear they work better after.... maybe placebo...... Elaborate on how the ozone is shortening the carbons life...???

 

[Guest]

I just dont get this at all,use a carbon filter to control ozone?Why not use a carbon filter to control the erbal odor?Did I miss something?

 

[Berry_Coughin']

I use both..... scrubber in the room Ozone out...... then when scrubber is not working so well...... to the closet they both go and run them overnight.... next day back working ok.......

 

[pgtekin]

Yes, ozone will short AC's live. Actually Ozone will short many materials' life including itself.
The reason is ozone is one of the most strongest oxidizers. As an oxidizer, ozone is very active and easy-going with any one (almostly).
The properties that make ozone a powerful cleaner, disinfectant, and bleaching agent also make ozone dangerous to living tissues.

When it comes in contact with living tissues, like our lungs, ozone attacks and damages cells lining the airways, this causes swelling and inflammation.
Meanwhile, due to this property, ozone can make reaction with activated carbon as well. Chemical equation is: O3+C = CO+O2;
It is why I say that ozone will short the AC's life.
But not short as you think. It will be very slow. You can't find that overnight that your carbon filter was dead. The true story is like that:
Your carbon filter should have 2 years life, but strong ozone tail gas can make the filter only one year life.
More complex situation is: Nitrogen Oxide and Nitrogan Dioxide (NO and NO2) also company with ozone when it generates. ozone is odoeless gas, but No and NO2 have some kind of stinky odor (not very strong). So many people complain when they smell the ozone. Actually, they smell NO/NO2 out.
And NO and NO2 are dangerous for our bady as well. More worst than ozone, (for this reason, lots low quality ozone generator meterials are forbidden in American, because they produce high by-products).
NO and NO2 also react with Carbon as well.
But NO also contribute Viagra and the 1998 Noble Prize in CH/MD area!

So, as I said in this post, the best kill odor solution is:

exhausting air -> Ozone(kill odor partially) -> Ozone Decomposing (kill ozone and NO/NO2) -> Carbon Filter (absorb rest of odor).

 

[MTF-Sandman]

I just dont get this at all,use a carbon filter to control ozone?Why not use a carbon filter to control the erbal odor?Did I miss something?

I'm with ya bro...using a scrubber to clean up the high ozone levels is bullshit. Either setup a correct mixing chamber for the ozone/air or use a scrubber. There's NO logical reason to go through all those hoops just to get odor removal.