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Overwater or Nitrogen toxicty? possibly somthing else

AndreNicky

Member
Growing in Botinacare cocogro Coco-coir

How long has this problem been going on? Acouple weeks
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? Homebox
What STRAIN are you growing?Biko and mazar-i-sharif
What was the establishing technique? Seed
What is the age of your plants? about 3 weeks
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now? about 3 weeks
How tall are the plants? Ranging from about 3-7in
What PHASE are the plants in? Seedling/veg
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? White, no
What Nutrient's are you using? GH Bloom/micro
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? started at 3mlMicro/4.5mlBloom per gallon but now im at 2.5/3.5
How often are you feeding? Everyday
How often are you giving nutrients? Everytime i feed
What order are you mixing your nutrients? Micro then bloom
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? dunno
What is the pH of the "Tank"? 5.8-6.0
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment? Yes
When was your last watering? yesterday
What is your water temps? 65ish
When was your last feeding change? yesterday
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients? Never
What size bulb are you using? 400w hps
What is the distance to the canopy? about 8 in
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)? 30-45%
What is the canopy temperature? 70-80, My digital thermometer tells me around 80 usually and the old school glass tube one tells me 70-75 usually. think the digi ones broke
What is the Day/Night Temp? 70-78day/55-65night
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 171cfm
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? Vent fan runs whenever lights on(20/4 atm)
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? Yes
Is your water HARD or SOFT? dunno
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? 25% tap/75% RO
Are you using water from a water softener?No
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched? Yes
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? No
Are plant's infected with pest's? No

Heres the deal I thought i had nitrogen toxicty(i def had it at some point) but i think it may have turned into some sort of over watering problem. I water once a day with about 8 ounces of water per plant(each plant is in a 1 gallon pot), i was under the impression u couldn't overwater coco but if its not overwatering i dunno what it is.

I have 3 clones getting the same nute mix as the biko's and mazar's that look great, only difference is the clones get about half the ratio. The other thing thats slightly different about the clones and seeded plants is the clones don't have as big a root system so they get alot more runoff, the bikos and mazar's on the otherhand get little to no runoff. I dunno what it could possibly be to tell you the truth, maybe u guys will have some more knowledge. Heres a pic of what I'm talking about

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Looks like typical overwatering, maybe I'm wrong?
 

GET MO

Registered Med User
Veteran
Id try to give um a couple ml of cal-mag and see if that fixes um. I use cal-mag everytime I water/feed with coco.
 

stihgnobevoli

Active member
Veteran
overwatering is just lack of oxygen to the roots. that being said that looks like overwatering you should prolly let the medium dry out some before you drown the roots again. they do need to breathe.
 

libby

Member
Andre, l may have thls completly wrong but,.........l have three mazar, ln 3" rockwool, ln ebb n flow, they get watered/fed for a half hour, every hour and a half. theyr'e cool wlth that, tonlght, l trled a full on flow for 5 hours, they hated lt, sulked Llke yours have.

Wether coco makes that much dlfference, l wouldn't know, but l would say l'm waterlng/feedlng mlne a lot more than you, wlth Llttle lLL effect.

l'm sure other verslons wlLL be along.



Yep, looks Llke l read lt wrong......... Damn that smoke:crazy::abduct:
 

AndreNicky

Member
Thanks for the advice guys, I'm gonna let them go till tommorow without a watering and see if they start to perk up
 

bberry101

New member
Thanks for the advice guys, I'm gonna let them go till tommorow without a watering and see if they start to perk up

word. Definitely not Nitrogen toxicity, I would almost say it has a slight def. maybe. But I would think the droopiness is over watering. Did skipping watering help at all?
 

AndreNicky

Member
Did skipping watering help at all?

Yea it did, helped alot actually :p. Most of the drooping has reversed thank god, guess u can overwater coco after all :bashhead: . By the way the deficency u guys see is just over exposure, that plant is very green and healthy :joint:
 
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stihgnobevoli

Active member
Veteran
for your future reference overnitrification doesnt curl under from the tip like that. the margins roll under and the leaves claw up. like this.

let me know if the thumbnails dont open. i saw someone else had thumbnails in their thread and when you click em it gave you a permission error.
 
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