Overgrow servers

[macster]

Its been a year since OVERGROW 'S demise and nothing definative has been stated about the location or condition on the Overgrow servers.
I find it hard to believe that they are sitting in some rented space gathering dust awaiting its owner to come forward and claim them.
If its safe, in whose possession is it??? If no one knows its status is it correct in assumming the the authorities have it and are poring over its contents at this very minute?
Gypsy are you there ?? Rosie Cheeks how about you?? We are all not so lucky to be in a country where growing and possession of the herb is legal.
We (Ex-Overgrowers) as a group have been assured that all is right in the growing world, but if this is the case WHERE ARE THE SERVERS

 

[Guyute54]

RMCP had them and probley still do. I'm sure they are in an evidence locker somewhere.

 

[SpanglyBoovus]

RMCP had them and probley still do. I'm sure they are in an evidence locker somewhere.

Im pretty sure this is the case.

boy am I glad I never made an account there.

 

[GZA]

yeah I deleted my account a couple months before the crash, what luck eh?

 

[HashishinReidi]

You know it weird you ask all this now , as i was just thinking about all those very same things you just said .Just the other day , I was also wondering if anyone knows what is goes on with rc, ie has anyone called him to see how things are ?.I forsure would love to know about the servers and were they actuly are .I still think if they are ok, and thats a big if. Then its the worst waste to have all that info out there doing nothing just lost in cyber space og and cw .

 

[Guest]

RMCP had them and probley still do. I'm sure they are in an evidence locker somewhere.

all we know that they had, and what was in the picture, which was confiscated from RC's residence, was not the actual OG servers from the ISP, but instead just an old BACKUP hard drive, and the brand-new servers that had never yet been installed in the planned upgrade. what good would pouring over the data on a backup drive do them, unless some growers had been careless enough to leave their personal info laying around there in posts or pm's? and even then, that data would be few years old, and likely outdated. if the RCMP ever did go get the actual servers that were in use at the time of the bust, i've seen no evidence of that, and besides, all the IP's were automatically wiped when RC had them turned off via phone. my guess is that the isp or RC probably has them stored somewhere safe.

 

[illin]

Gypsy are you there ?? Rosie Cheeks how about you?? We are all not so lucky to be in a country where growing and possession of the herb is legal.
We (Ex-Overgrowers) as a group have been assured that all is right in the growing world, but if this is the case WHERE ARE THE SERVERS

I think if you know the consequences of what you are doing then it should be your responsibility to take care of your own security. Of course you have to expect that the servers are NOT in safe hands. Did you not think that maybe one day the cops would like to look at the O.G. servers? Was that so hard to imagine?

I am positive that no one in the cannaforum biz wants anything bad to happen to there members, but they cannot protect you from yourself.

 

[budrezin]

fact of the matter is that if you upload incriminating evidence ,that is your choice ,no one forces you to do it. remember most countries prohibit marij cultivation.

 

[macster]

I don't necessarily have anything on them to concern myself,that said we've (former OGer's) been assured a number of times that the servers are in good hands " no worries"
There've been no updates no nothing (something else we were told would happen).How is RC case coming along?
Security is a key component of our well being so therefore communication is vital. Security is my problem of course ILLIN but alot was said by alot of people stating our security was not compromised. 1 year later is it not okay to question?

 

[budrezin]

maybe it was a co-incidence but i had a lot of trouble regarding security right about the same time the servers went down. like i said was probably just a co-incidence.

 

[Guest]

I remember a thread that had ALL the details. You missed it? Let me see if I can dig it up for you. Wait I'll do you 1 better. I'm going to drive to Canada and Demand answers from RC and the RCMP even if I have to get locked up to do it. Then I'll swim to England/Spain/Holland/Thailand and find Gypsy and hand deliver the news to him (to avoid embellishments and so he gets the info first hand) and he can get back to ya. I want to know what happened to the OG servers That Bad too. You see I'm Included in "we've" as a former OG member (That and $1.25 US will get you a Extra Large cup of Coffee). Maybe I shouldn't have posted the directions to my grow right before the OG Shut Down occured? If you had nothing posted at OG you need to worry about then why aren't you (or we've) as concerned about the CW servers? Looks like I have some more swimming/driving/demanding to do. See ya in about a month!

 

[naga_sadu]

I'm really worried about RC & his family, nothing more @ this point (reg. overgrow).

You really think the RCMP is going to prowl thru a bunch of outdated servers?! Hell, you'd need a HUGE taskforce to do that! Well, if you had a large commercial grow with your personal info besides it, then it's another story, but otherwise, youre ok. And anonymous posts from the internet usually isin't permissable evidence in the court of law.

And as far as seed orders go, another point worth considering is when Emery's seed co. went down (in a similar bust), the DEA in the US could only bust people thru the notorious "pink slip" method- where they'd send out slips asking for the consumers (who ordered) to reconfirm their physical addresses.

If you guys are going to worry about "personal security" watch out for the local narcs and keep a close eye on the tongues of those who know you grow. In particular mentally troubled / unstable ass ex- girlfriends And also constantly reassess the security aspects of your physical grow op. These are some of the things that get people busted, not anonymous postings on a www site. As of today, one can comfortably say that more than 95% of busts are a direct result of local narcs- who knew the one who was growing quite well.

The only time a website and a server becomes a serious security issue is when they are manned by Babylon itself. Like those bulletin board services and forums that were covertly run by the DEA that bought many amvitamin (methenphetimine- [sp?]) manufacturers together. We know that's not the case w/ RC at this point for sure.

If you have doubts w/ the integrity of an owner (of a service provider) look at his work and his reputation. That should tell you the whole story.

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

Gypsy are you there ?? Rosie Cheeks how about you?? We are all not so lucky to be in a country where growing and possession of the herb is legal.
We (Ex-Overgrowers) as a group have been assured that all is right in the growing world, but if this is the case WHERE ARE THE SERVERS

I'm here, but I don't have anything to do with the servers. Perhaps you mistook me for RC because of the Initials?
See it this way, either the RCMP have the servers, and if you left enough trails behind you in there then your grow-op is jeopardized since a year back. You've had almost 365 days to close shop and take necessary precautions (that you should already have taken) for your security. Gypsy said this almost straight away after the RC bust; everybody do what you have to do to to assure one's safety. Some people shut down their grows, lost a lot of money and then spilled their anger and frustration on Gyp. He did the right thing, but it was a no-win situation.

Or, the RCMP do not have the servers. In that case, someone else have them. Who? I don't know, and I don't need to know. If I share a joint with someone and that someone asks where the weed came from, he doesn't need to know the name and address of the one who grew it. He would like to know, but it's better for everyone that he doesn't. The less said about it the better.

It's likely that the RCMP have the servers, or copies of them, but they were never interested in building cases against the 100 000 + handles (most of them are non-Canadian anyway) , only the big fish. Remember, it's Canada, not the US. A couple of levels lower on the state fascism scale. Busting RC was enough, they don't have the manpower or the will to deal with the whole OG antstack. That's the way I would personally reason if I was in charge of the operation. Catch the guy with the goldbars and leave the growers with a fright, for now. As long as they're still sitting on the servers, they've got the upper hand.

 

[Guest]

You really think the RCMP is going to prowl thru a bunch of outdated servers?! Hell, you'd need a HUGE taskforce to do that! Well, if you had a large commercial grow with your personal info besides it, then it's another story, but otherwise, youre ok. And anonymous posts from the internet usually isin't permissable evidence in the court of law.

Hi all,

Firstly let me say this. The DEA do not have to bust into the server centre and take the servers to get access to the data upon them, they can enforce powers under the RIP act to be able to enforce a connection or monitoring device to gain access to any data they want. In the USA or abroad. This has been has been proven with the shut down of 'Indymedias' servers in London by the FBI years ago. That was just for showing 'terrorist' beheading videos.

Now, OG was on Canadian servers, hosted by a company that has offices in the USA! sat on a network with bandwidth running through the north of xxxxing America!! and hosted by a company who is subject to the RIP act in entirety!

Please do not think for a second this would not be done by 'them' it is easy as sending a few mails for 'them'. I can tell you from personal experience that if the Server centre or ISP does not agree they can be in contempt and shut down. No shareholder owned large business in the IT world is going to fuck with them. Doing so equals immediate shut down of operations.

Here at ICMag it is different, GN's servers are privately hosted, in Holland and the security packages they are putting together sound just like the right move and solution to me. A good base for protecting as much as is possible people using the site.

Personally I hope OG does not come back, definitely not as it was, because it was a security nightmare for folks state side, imho. Also, i think if they where going to do anything against the growers it would have been done by now, going by all that has gone before. Don't relax, but don't panic i think..

Unless your state side and a member of PlanetGanja that is, also hosted in Canada, how many times do we have to go through it to learn. time to stick together in a place and with people who you know will keep your ass safe in a fight.

Peace and be safe!

hhf

 

[macster]

Hi Rosey cheeks
From past posts it seemed you are or were connected to the past admin of OG and might have some knowledge of whereabouts of said servers.Sorry if I am incorrect.
I'm pretty sure someone in ICG knows what's going on and only ask that they share.
Even though it may no longer be that relevant.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Its been a year since OVERGROW 'S demise and nothing definative has been stated about the location or condition on the Overgrow servers.
I find it hard to believe that they are sitting in some rented space gathering dust awaiting its owner to come forward and claim them.
If its safe, in whose possession is it??? If no one knows its status is it correct in assumming the the authorities have it and are poring over its contents at this very minute?
Gypsy are you there ?? Rosie Cheeks how about you?? We are all not so lucky to be in a country where growing and possession of the herb is legal.
We (Ex-Overgrowers) as a group have been assured that all is right in the growing world, but if this is the case WHERE ARE THE SERVERS

....I have no idea where the O.G. servers might be.......but I have my own ideas of what happened to RC and why......and one of these days I'll share those thoughts with you all...

...I had very little contact with RC really and no influence over where the servers were positioned......if I had done then perhaps O.G. would be safe to this day for I had suggested to RC that he move them to Holland where they would have been safe quite a while before it was all lost to the powers that be.....I have not heard from RC now in nearly a year........and I also wonder what has happened to him........regularly...

 

[macster]

After reviewing old posts it was Old Pink who seemed to be connected to the OG admin
I'm not making any kind of acussations just we were told a number of things and I'd like to know where things are at now.Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Macster

 

[KharmaGirl]

Old Pink was the Admin at OG. Now he is an Admin here. I don't think anyone has really had any contact with RC. No one is keeping any info from you, if that's wht you are thinking.

 

[HashishinReidi]

Does anyone have a number for rc even ,Just to call him,and to see how things are ?.And what is going on with his case ?.

 

[MyAssIsGrass]

I have not heard from RC now in nearly a year........and I also wonder what has happened to him........regularly...

Ditto