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Outdoor open air pollination - newb

NorGreen

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My plan was to just pop a few 10 pack of seeds, 2 strains of autos, 2 strains of semis and one photo strain, plant them outdoor (separate, of course) and just let nature take its course to mass pollinate... then I read something about the first male to drop its pollen is the only male that gets to pollinate the females, that they stop taking up any more pollen from the other males when they are already pollinated from the first male... is this correct?

If so, where is the logic behind that from natures side? That would mean that all plants in nature would only bring the earliest males DNA further?

As I'm already very late in the season, how long time does the seeds take to mature, compared to a fully mature plant? Say, an auto of 10 weeks from seed to harvest. When will the seeds be ready?
Of course, I'm hoping for some harvest to make some oil as well, but if we get a rainy and humid fall here on 59N, and a lot of bud rot, I'd still get my seeds, right?

One more question... how does/how much does epigenetics influence the next generation if grown in small vs big pots? Sunny vs rainy summer? Proper care and nutrition vs. mediocre care and nutrition?
 

exploziv

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It's not that a female will not take any more pollen after pollination, it's the calaxy that will dry the pistils after pollination and not receive any other pollen. Not all calaxys are ready to be pollinated at the same time so it's a window big enaugh to get multiple crosses on a plant. Seeds are usually ready about when you would harvest bud, and nee to be pollinated in the first third of the flower circle or so to be ready by then. So a 10 weeks flower plant would need to be pollinated in the first 3 weeks to have best results. 4th and 5th week might work too.
You are right. Outdoor favours the early males. That's because the plant that drops seeds fastest has the biggest chance of having offspring. Especially in colder areas.
Genetics are quite complicated and i have not grown enaugh of the seeds I made to see what influences the offspring. I'll let that one for the experts.
 

NorGreen

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Seeds are usually ready about when you would harvest bud, and nee to be pollinated in the first third of the flower circle or so to be ready by then. So a 10 weeks flower plant would need to be pollinated in the first 3 weeks to have best results. 4th and 5th week might work too.


If all seeds are popped at the same time, wouldn't the plants sort this out themselves?

In regards of the first male.. say I get 5 males from 10 seeds, and one male is really fast, even though its fast, and we all want fast flowering plants up here in the north, how do I know this plant has any other desirable qualities?
Could it be an idea to cull the first opening male plants, and hope that the other 4 opens more simultaneously?
 

exploziv

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Natural selection is a series of hits and misses where something works and catches once in a while and can't be duplicated very well by human intervention. You can just hope the offpring come the way of the male(s) you selected. Real change happens over a long time in nature. Genes have multiple way of showing and also work togheter to change each others expressions. Environment also play a role. Just try it and see what happens.
 

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