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Organic Grow, Sick CH9 Mendocino in early Veg

sednal

Active member
HELP!, Description of problem and Pictures
I have to start out by saying we got a new camera :)

This plant is about 1.5 weeks from sprout. It was intially given water/neuts(7ml of PURE BLEND PRO VEGETATIVE 3-1.5-4 and 4ml of LIQUID KARMA) when the germd seed was placed in the soil mix. It has been watered twice since then and started showing light green spots that turned into what is shown below. 24 hours ago it was given the same dose of neuts as it was intially given, and it seems like the spots have not changed at all.

Also the new growth that has occured over night seems healthy. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as we are new to indoor pure organic grows. If a picture of the underside of the hurt leaves are required please say so.


Soil Mix
LC's Soiless Mix #2:
6 parts Pro Mix BX
2 parts perlite
2 parts earthworm castings (Rising mist Organics, KS)
Powdered (NOT PELLETIZED) dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.

Water
Steam distilled Water

Nutrients on hand
Botanicare's
PURE BLEND PRO VEGETATIVE 3-1.5-4
PURE BLEND PRO SOIL 1.5-4-5
CAL-MAG PLUS
LIQUID KARMA
SILICA BLAST
CLEAREX

Closeup of now Yellow Spots
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Plant from top view
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loko17

Member
Those spots will not disappear! Just watch if they are getting worse.
I think these pots are too big for them to be watered already 4 times. Did the pots feel almost dry when u watered?

I think you are overdoing the nutes as well!
 

sednal

Active member
They were dry to the touch when watered. The soilmix is soilless, so no neuts were in the soil when started so we had to add some. I neut'd 24 hours ago and there is no change in the spots and as you can see the new growth is healthy.
 

Solidopc

Active member
Too much nutes man, hang back a bit. That discolouration at the edges is nute burn. Just don't add so much of the stuff. It doesn't seem that bad of a burn, so you don't need to drop loads, just say go to 4-5ml of the veg thing, and 2-3 of the other stuff, and see how it is.
 

loko17

Member
They were dry to the touch when watered. The soilmix is soilless, so no neuts were in the soil when started so we had to add some. I neut'd 24 hours ago and there is no change in the spots and as you can see the new growth is healthy.

Yes but u also added pro mix and also wormcasting to the mix so I would just hold off the nutes at least for 2 weeks from germination or give them 1/3 strength at week 1.

Check this thread out ( very helpful)

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=134653
 

sednal

Active member
Thankyou very much understanding now, i always thought the promix had no neuts in it thought the wormcastings didnt have enough. Solid's plan sounds good gonna water prolly next 3 dryouts see how it goes.
 

HeD333

Active member
What they said^^
luckily, the case you have isn't bad, go with a couple water-only waterings, and all the new growth should be healthy. The lower leaves may or may not recover, and that's completely normal.
 

yortbogey

To Have More ... Desire Less
Veteran
the soil is hot enuff.....
too much nutez
too much water
and PH iz off
keep IT up and U'll get lockout
let the little thang breath......STOP watering for 5-7 dayz.....let it go BONE dry......... then just feed ph adjusted plain water........
the soil needz to be fluffy and loose NOT pressed down and compacted ....this will restrict root development severly....and lead to more problemz down the road......as it is the plant is hot and on the verg of being stunnted......

see how DARK the leaves R.......too much N
 

sednal

Active member
the soil is hot enuff.....
too much nutez
too much water
and PH iz off
keep IT up and U'll get lockout
let the little thang breath......STOP watering for 5-7 dayz.....let it go BONE dry......... then just feed ph adjusted plain water........
the soil needz to be fluffy and loose NOT pressed down and compacted ....this will restrict root development severly....and lead to more problemz down the road......as it is the plant is hot and on the verg of being stunnted......

see how DARK the leaves R.......too much N

Thankyou for the info, question though what is all the info about ph NOT being an issue in organic grows, its all over the organic soil forum? Btw we tested the soil ph and it is 7. I will test the runoff when theyr dryed up and ready for a next watering. But i cant see how ive watered to much....i water when theyr completly dry(probing with my finger into the soil) and slow water till there is a slight runoff. I can see how they can have nute burn from the nutes and the "starter" nutes in the soil mix.
 
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