Here we have the two most-prescribed medications of the 1800's. Just getting started, will update when things get more interesting. Strains are "NL75" (NL#5 cross) and "Zahir" poppy
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Grease_Monkey
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I made it over! I like your signature haha
Welcome GM! That's funny....."OG refugee" was from early 2000's when OG 1.0 shut down. Now it applies today as well! Stifling censorship has rendered OG 2.0 into some kind of Stasi kindergarten. Congrats to whoever ported over the old IG to this new platform, it appears to have brought over all the old data, which is impressive from a systems integration perspective.
Grease_Monkey
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Lol I guess history repeats itself
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Are those collected seeds?
These seeds have some history to them - the NL #5 was "Aurora Borealis" the version sold by Brothers Grimm around 2000-2001. The other strain involved was another oldie, "Orange Crush" from Vic High (BCGA) which was DJ Short Blueberry X California Orange. I crossed the NL to the OC once, then crossed the resulting seeds back to another NL#5 producing NL75 (75%). I've only grown these seeds once or twice, basically just a high-yielding NL strain with occasional blueberry/grape flavor and purple coloring showing up.
I'm experimenting with brand new soil mix so I didn't want to use any breeder packs, I've got a bunch of these NL75, probably 15 years old now? they seemed to freak out with the last watering, leaves curled down for 24 hours, it's got me wondering if I have a water problem. I've tested my well water a few times and it looked fine, I think pH was 6.7 last I checked. I just watered again with a jug of Poland Spring, will see if it makes a difference. Don't want to pay to test the water again! Maybe the mix just needs more perlite?
These germinated well, 12/12 and I think they're 10 or 12 years old. Stored in a glass jar in the fridge w/ silicon dessicant packs. How would you measure the pH of the soil? I''ve done lab testing before, but this mix is a blend of 3 commercial ones that are pH balanced, it should be OK.
My house water comes through an iron removal filter in the basement. I've had it tested, it raises the pH a bit, and adds calcium to the water. But the last pH was 6.7 and the calcium level didn't seem excessive in the lab test. I'll have to get the pH pen fired up for the next watering to double-check this stuff.
My house water comes through an iron removal filter in the basement. I've had it tested, it raises the pH a bit, and adds calcium to the water. But the last pH was 6.7 and the calcium level didn't seem excessive in the lab test. I'll have to get the pH pen fired up for the next watering to double-check this stuff.
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BobChronic6505
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I like your style man. How old are those zahir? Have you grown them before? I have some Lauren's grape that I started in October that just now look like yours. I believe a full life cycle for them is like 7 months?
wow, those Lauren's grape look like beautiful flowers! I have no idea what's going to happen with the poppies, all I know is to keep them in 18 hour light cycle for their whole lives, that's how they flower. At some point they shift into flower mode and start sending up tall stems & buds. This is my first time with them. I'd like to make a few balls of opium if I can, or steep some tea, but mostly it's just a fun experiment, I love growing the other medicinal plants, just for self-empowerment and enjoyment. Milk thistle and mullein are favorites I've grown just for the hell of it, they're basically weeds.
I've got some extra LED's and closets available for them, and it's cold here in winter so the heat energy is not wasted & goes into heating the house. If the poppies do well I'm hoping to make another round of seedlings to give to friends for outdoor season. Apparently the Papaver Somniferum are known for a very slow veg process- sounds like you're seeing that too, the cannabis seedlings are going to lap them. The poppy seedlings in the pic are 2 months older than the cannabis I think?
Here's a gratuitious plug for the medicinal seed company if anyone's interested in trying these - this is the coolest seedbank in the world IMO, they offer every other medicinal plant besides cannabis - they say the Zahir is an older landrace strain of P.S.....
https://strictlymedicinalseeds.com/
I've got some extra LED's and closets available for them, and it's cold here in winter so the heat energy is not wasted & goes into heating the house. If the poppies do well I'm hoping to make another round of seedlings to give to friends for outdoor season. Apparently the Papaver Somniferum are known for a very slow veg process- sounds like you're seeing that too, the cannabis seedlings are going to lap them. The poppy seedlings in the pic are 2 months older than the cannabis I think?
Here's a gratuitious plug for the medicinal seed company if anyone's interested in trying these - this is the coolest seedbank in the world IMO, they offer every other medicinal plant besides cannabis - they say the Zahir is an older landrace strain of P.S.....
https://strictlymedicinalseeds.com/
BobChronic6505
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Muleskinner Im like you man, i want to have a garden full of medicinals. Its my first time with them also. Supposedly the laurens grape is one of the stronger varieties. Theres not a whole lot of info out there about how to grow poppy like there is for growing weed. But from my understanding you are supposed to sow them when its cold, and they veg out all winter and all spring and i believe they will flower by the end of summer. I believe they like it kinda cold. Ive read the cycle from seed is about 7 months. Ive read that you can eat the lettuce, and i did try it just for shits and giggles. Its tasty, but im very unsure if the lettuce has any alkaloids
Do you plan on transplanting yours? I had read that they do not like that, so let us know if you successfully transplant them into a bigger pot.
Have you ever fucked with ginseng or black tea? Ive drank some ginseng root in soaked in water and that shit was powerful. I havent tried to start any 'seng but i can tell you tea seeds are hard as fuck to germinate.
Do you plan on transplanting yours? I had read that they do not like that, so let us know if you successfully transplant them into a bigger pot.
Have you ever fucked with ginseng or black tea? Ive drank some ginseng root in soaked in water and that shit was powerful. I havent tried to start any 'seng but i can tell you tea seeds are hard as fuck to germinate.
wumpyc
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that's a great idea, I've got serious problems, all the plants are suddenly dying. If it's not water it's got to be a pathogen....going to test the soil and water ph today
The results are in - the tap water I've been using is pH 7.0 and TDS 75ppm. The Poland Spring water I bought (!) is pH 7.0 and TDS 60ppm. After watering the seedlings the runoff water is TDS 500-600ppm and pH of 6.6-6.7. So fuck! These numbers seem fine right??? WTF, plants have taken a huge downturn the last week. Watered once with a weak dose of Roots Organic grow (1TBLP/gal Buddha Grow) and the plants look even worse.
Starting to wonder if some kind of disease is at work here. I was going to flush them but there's nothing to flush out. I bought some distilled water and the TDS is 0 but the pH is 8.0, that's strange, not going to use that water.
Starting to wonder if some kind of disease is at work here. I was going to flush them but there's nothing to flush out. I bought some distilled water and the TDS is 0 but the pH is 8.0, that's strange, not going to use that water.
wumpyc
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I would transplant into final pots and start feeding them Nitrogen
great minds think alike - that's exactly what I'm doing now. I think my mix is low on aeration as well - I noticed the seedling pots were heavy and still wet after 4 days of the fan blowing on them - this formulation did not have enough Perlite.
quick update - there were some casualties, but it looks like I nailed the problem, everyone's doing well in the 1-gallon pots. I increased the dry nutes in the mix and also increased the aeration quite a bit - I think the first batch was too heavy w/ compost type stuff and not enough perlite. Starting a fresh tray of poppy seeds today for the outdoor season:
