OnStar

[JJScorpio]

Does anyone else have this? It comes standard with most new vehicles now. Maybe it's part of the deal with the Govt bailing out the automakers....

What I have wondered is, not only could the Gov't use it as a full time tracking device, but can they also listen in to conversations within the vehicle? Who's to say who could use it for purposes other than safety.....

Great, another conspiracy theory, lol.......

 

[sunnyside]

Very true...but if they want you they are going to get you.

Cell phones are very traceable...gps devices are wonderful, yet obviously very traceable.

This is the world we live in. Where anything that could be used for good, will probably end up being used for the bad.

 

[mysticls]

cut the microphone off, they can hear everything.. i know for a fact

 

[Deft]

They can also shut you down remotely, its a pretty invasive system IMO. I would not doubt at all they track each one if only for statistical info but still scary.

 

[Guest]

Don't know much about OnStar but check this out http://www.microvideox.com/GPS-Counter-Track.html
(The GPS Counter Track allows you to stop GPS trackers that may be hidden on your car and tracking You.)

 

[RudolfTheRed]

didn't some high level mobsters get busted because of their OnStar?

Fuck that. I'm glad I drive old cars only when I do drive.

 

[FrankRizzo]

I'm pretty sure when you sign the contract for the service you give them permission to do whatever they want. I know they can listen to you, at any time with or without your knowledge. They can monitor your cars vitals, track your movements. God knows what else. Bad thing to have if you ask me.

 

[bingobongo]

RudolfTheRed - Check it...

Cell phone users, beware. The FBI can listen to everything you say, even when the cell phone is turned off.

A recent court ruling in a case against the Genovese crime family revealed that the FBI has the ability from a remote location to activate a cell phone and turn its microphone into a listening device that transmits to an FBI listening post, a method known as a "roving bug." Experts say the only way to defeat it is to remove the cell phone battery.

"The FBI can access cell phones and modify them remotely without ever having to physically handle them," James Atkinson, a counterintelligence security consultant, told ABC News. "Any recently manufactured cell phone has a built-in tracking device, which can allow eavesdroppers to pinpoint someone's location to within just a few feet," he added.

According to the recent court ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan, "The device functioned whether the phone was powered on or off, intercepting conversations within its range wherever it happened to be."

The court ruling denied motions by 10 defendants to suppress the conversations obtained by "roving bugs" on the phones of John Ardito, a high-ranking member of the family, and Peter Peluso, an attorney and close associate of Ardito, who later cooperated with the government. The "roving bugs" were approved by a judge after the more conventional bugs planted at specified locations were discovered by members of the crime family, who then started to conduct their business dealings in several additional locations, including more restaurants, cars, a doctor's office and public streets.

"The courts have given law enforcement a blank check for surveillance," Richard Rehbock, attorney for defendant John Ardito, told ABC News.

Judge Kaplan's ruling said otherwise. "While a mobile device makes interception easier and less costly to accomplish than a stationary one, this does not mean that it implicated new or different privacy concerns." He continued, "It simply dispenses with the need for repeated installations and surreptitious entries into buildings. It does not invade zones of privacy that the government could not reach by more conventional means."

Ford's version to OnStar is called SmartAlert.
Nice.....Not that I'm paranoid enough!
Stay Safe,
BB

 

[Verite]

I canceled my OnStar after it caught me touching myself.

 

[Guest]

I canceled my OnStar after it caught me touching myself.

really? i kept mine because the girl on the other end had a sexy voice.......

 

[HeadyPete]

That was BrownStar, Verite.

 

[Bud Meister]

really? i kept mine because the girl on the other end had a sexy voice.......

I thought the girl on the other end was from India.

 

[RudolfTheRed]

I know the feds can tap your cell phone through the mic. thats old news.
i don't own one of those either. just a house phone.

 

[Vermonster]

Recent?!?! they were using Pablo Escobars cellphone to listen to his conversations and track his ass in late 80-s early 90s, nothing new. if your transporting or having conversations you don't want folks to hear take out the battery. However i would imagine you would have to be a highlevel MJ grower and traffiker to have these tactics used on you, real high level. In that case i doubt your on the net talking about it much so, i think we are all safe. anyway no matter the tools they have if your in their sights and do not know and cannot clean house, they got your ass, satalites cell phone, on star aside.....and Rudolph house phone is like 50X more dangerous then a celllie, best bet is a burner/diposable phone, no name, no info, no connection to you. as far as on-star, they can slap a GPS on you anyway, and how much do you talk in your car? i don't know, guess i am just not that paranoid cause by me, you have to be importing tons of coke or dope to garner this much attention.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

Does anyone else have this? It comes standard with most new vehicles now. Maybe it's part of the deal with the Govt bailing out the automakers....

What I have wondered is, not only could the Gov't use it as a full time tracking device, but can they also listen in to conversations within the vehicle? Who's to say who could use it for purposes other than safety.....

Great, another conspiracy theory, lol.......

what a comspiracy king you are... they could... BUT if your actualy worried, or going to do somthing about it, id throw the cell first.. its EZer to get at...
Onstar is a GM toy and been around since mid-late 90s ive had a few friends get there ride recoverd with it, and had one in a rolleover get there life saved while they were KO....he was T-boned by a big-rig. its worth having as a safty device, i think you get a discount on your insurance too. maybe just a few $...onstar= lojack + cell-phone + lifeline...

 

[twojoints]

ive always thought onstar seemed like the perfect government tool. especially the remote kill- police agencies have been dying for a way to shut down cars that are drivin by crackheads trying to run away. onstar would make a car chase be a non-event.

but either way, those who give up freedom for safety dont deserve to be safe or free at all.

 

[Verite]

That was BrownStar, Verite.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

ive always thought onstar seemed like the perfect government tool. especially the remote kill- police agencies have been dying for a way to shut down cars that are drivin by crackheads trying to run away. onstar would make a car chase be a non-event.

but either way, those who give up freedom for safety dont deserve to be safe or free at all.

ease off the schrom dude!!!
cops dont do that, they dont have the controls, and the cars are not THAT equiped......

there are car alaerms that use a website to track the car, and u can use the 'net to disable starter, lock doors, and even look at the car. cia must be rolling in shit...

 

[RudolfTheRed]

Who in the hell wants GPS on there car?
You've got to be out of your mind.

 

[twojoints]

you dont have a cell phone? the man knows where im at at all times because of my cell phone... i dont like it but i dont see how it can be prevented. i just hope they can see my asshole when im taking a shit.. i got plenty of footage of that for them.