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One Plant in a GL40??

blackdoctormd

New member
What's good IC?

I'm trying to do a Barney's Farm Pinapple Express grow with a 150w HPS in a GL40. The medium will be coco using Canna Coco nutes. Im wondering what pot size would be the most efficient with my setup. I'm currently looking at 5 gallon smart pots because its the biggest single pot I can fit in my tent haha; but, somehow I feel like thats too big. Should I LST? Grow more plants? Grow a different strain? Help IC, I just want to maximize yield!

thanks,

bdmd
 

TheGreenBastard

Assistant Weekend Trailer Park Superviser
Veteran
If you want to maximize overall yield you should grow more plants, AF yields are most determined by pot size and plant numbers.
 
please dont let anyone convice you that the answer to higher yields is a higher plant count.

I would do the 5 gallon smart pot,have you ever heard someone say "I gave my plants too much rootspace"?
 

TheGreenBastard

Assistant Weekend Trailer Park Superviser
Veteran
I don't know how large his space is but if there is room for more plants his yield will likely increase as AF's tend to have a maximum yield in most setups. For instance lets say you are growing one plant that produces 20g, it is likely that if you run two you will yield more than 10g unless each has significantly less space. You'll likely yield more off 2 plants in 3 gal pots then one plant in a 5 gal pot. Also, pot height is more important than width. For instance if the 3 gal pots were the same height as the 5 gal you'll have similar yields.

Also, what if the one plant you are growing happens to be a micro pheno or there is some environmental stress which causes a significant cut to yield (or even death). Running more plants reduces the risk of these factors effecting your outcome, as you know AF's can not be cloned so it makes sense to increase numbers to ensure you are planting quality genetics. You will undoubtedly yield more with two micro plants in smaller pots then one micro in a 5gal alone. If you were running clones this would not be an issue but this is not the case.

Growing AF's is a numbers game do to often unstable genetics, I'm not very familiar with Pineapple Express though it doesn't hurt to increase your chances of success with more plants.
 

blackdoctormd

New member
I don't know how large his space is but if there is room for more plants his yield will likely increase as AF's tend to have a maximum yield in most setups. For instance lets say you are growing one plant that produces 20g, it is likely that if you run two you will yield more than 10g unless each has significantly less space. You'll likely yield more off 2 plants in 3 gal pots then one plant in a 5 gal pot. Also, pot height is more important than width. For instance if the 3 gal pots were the same height as the 5 gal you'll have similar yields.

Also, what if the one plant you are growing happens to be a micro pheno or there is some environmental stress which causes a significant cut to yield (or even death). Running more plants reduces the risk of these factors effecting your outcome, as you know AF's can not be cloned so it makes sense to increase numbers to ensure you are planting quality genetics. You will undoubtedly yield more with two micro plants in smaller pots then one micro in a 5gal alone. If you were running clones this would not be an issue but this is not the case.

Growing AF's is a numbers game do to often unstable genetics, I'm not very familiar with Pineapple Express though it doesn't hurt to increase your chances of success with more plants.

the space is 1'4''x1'4''. I'm pretty set on growing in smart pots and if i was gonna do more than one id do four 1 gallon smart pots because they're 7 inches in diameter so i can easily fit them all in my tent.

the reason i want to grow in one container though is because of grows like skotty's which yield 5 zips off of one plant. however, i still have reservations about this because he was running hydro, i'm running coco, he had a big led and i have a small 150w hps, and he also had a bigger tent than me.

now that i realize i can actually fit up to a 7 gallon pot in my tent (10.5" tall), do you think i can yeild about three zips from one plant? I'd be LSTing of course. or should I go with four plants in one gallon smart pots (5.5" tall)? how much can i expect to yield from each plant? anybody have any recommendations for an auto strain that is stable, potent, and yields heavy in tight spaces like mine?

thanks


BDMD


ps

here is my tent: http://www.greners.com/grow-tents/growlab/growlab-portable-grow-rooms-gl40.html
 

stonedar

Macro-aggressor
Veteran
put 2 or 3 AF in the 7 gallon smart pot, and LST them to the same height. fit as much bud in that little bugger as you can.

put a stake in the center to tie them too, and then bend them out away from each other.
 
Didnt realize pineapple express was an auto strain. in that case i prolly would go multiple plants, i second the above idea.
 

TheGreenBastard

Assistant Weekend Trailer Park Superviser
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Didnt realize pineapple express was an auto strain. in that case i prolly would go multiple plants, i second the above idea.
No offense, but this is the Auto Flowering forums. I understand though, I often open threads from the homepage and don't pay attention to what forum its under. In fact I didn't know this was the AF forum until I read that he was thinking of running Pineapple Express. I need to get in the habit of checking every time, it helps avoid confusion, there have been several times I've posted bad info for not checking the forums.
 

conehead

Active member
What's good IC?

I'm trying to do a Barney's Farm Pinapple Express grow with a 150w HPS in a GL40. The medium will be coco using Canna Coco nutes. Im wondering what pot size would be the most efficient with my setup. I'm currently looking at 5 gallon smart pots because its the biggest single pot I can fit in my tent haha; but, somehow I feel like thats too big. Should I LST? Grow more plants? Grow a different strain? Help IC, I just want to maximize yield!

thanks,

bdmd

Hi ya Bro. man that is overboard. Pot size is Important If you plan a long Veg stage like 7 weeks under HID or equivalent. If you are vegging for the normal 2 to 4 weeks, 10 inch pots are more than enough.
 

blackdoctormd

New member
Hi ya Bro. man that is overboard. Pot size is Important If you plan a long Veg stage like 7 weeks under HID or equivalent. If you are vegging for the normal 2 to 4 weeks, 10 inch pots are more than enough.

im not gonna be vegging its an AF strain. so i guess multiple plants is the consensus? I've seen one of these girls yield 5 zips after 65 days from seed under one light and i'd be more than happy with that.

anyone else have an opinion or wanna speculate?

thanks, bdmd
 

TheGreenBastard

Assistant Weekend Trailer Park Superviser
Veteran
The plant your referring to was a Sour 60 in 5gal DWC grown under 345w's of LED's by one of the greatest AF growers we have yet to see, in short, 5oz is an unrealistic goal. Now, if you were to run 4 plants you could maybe yield 14-20g a plant in ~70 days, that would be a good start. To do this you'll need more than 1 gal pots per plant and seeing as how you don't have much floor space I would build my own square pots to better fit that space, if that is not an option using one or two large pots with multiple plants per pot and a lot of LST you could get those kind of results. If you were to pull 2-3oz on your first grow in that setup I'd defiantly call it a success.
 

skotty

horticulturist
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The plant your referring to was a Sour 60 in 5gal DWC grown under 345w's of LED's by one of the greatest AF growers we have yet to see, in short, 5oz is an unrealistic goal. Now, if you were to run 4 plants you could maybe yield 14-20g a plant in ~70 days, that would be a good start. To do this you'll need more than 1 gal pots per plant and seeing as how you don't have much floor space I would build my own square pots to better fit that space, if that is not an option using one or two large pots with multiple plants per pot and a lot of LST you could get those kind of results. If you were to pull 2-3oz on your first grow in that setup I'd defiantly call it a success.

lmfao thanks for the comment but 5 oz dry from a plant that only yields 15-20g has been done mate because i did it lol

pineapple express grow is in my link if you wanna see her

also on the theme of the express train she can be ready in 65 days from seed no worries and ive seen many grows of her done in soil where she has yielded between 2-3 oz dry but thats by people who have had a few grows under their belt

i think the best advice has already been given, germinate 3 seeds and aim for 1oz per plant in the space you have got

hope this helps
 
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