Old time smoker has some q's about wax...

[hereandnow]

Hello!

Quick question about BHO/wax. I've been smoking the green stuff for years. Never really cared to venture into dabbing or really know much about it. Ive smoked wax out of a vape pen a couple times before, just a couple hits from friends of friends. So thats as far as my knowledge goes with that. Never really cared to look too much into it as I prefer buds.

Started to read a bit more into it today and was confused about something. Says the potency is upwards of 90% THC and it gets you extremely high, borderline hallucinating (according to a couple articles). The wax that I smoked was mild and got me high, sure, but it wasn't anything like these articles I've been reading. Just seemed like a normal high I would get from smoking out of my bowl.

I'm interested in knowing more about it for the main reason I can conceal it. Here in NYC that would be ideal! Are these articles blowing it out of proportion?

Thanks in advance for the help guys

 

[MJPassion]

I prefer straight flowers.

I like to get high every time I smoke...
not just every time I have dabs.

Dabs really mess with tolerance levels of flowers, imo.

Oh yeah...
and I think those claims are pretty accurate but...
A lot of synergistic elements are lost in solvent extractions, imo.
I'm no expert tho... just like flowers.

 

[Mknasty32]

Hows it,
im a regular bho dabber as a patient,
and I can tell you the pen, is just kinda a lil
bit..
do a dab, ti nail, .2 3.bong and hit it

 

[Jhhnn]

Meh. I'm not much for extracts, either, other than dry sift & bubble.

Extracts range in quality from cheap rotgut rum to fine cognac- most of the commercial stuff around here seems to be made from floor sweepings...

 

[BlackBuds]

For me it's too hard to gauge quality by appearance and does not give me the same high that flowers do. In the same boat and agree with MJP that it destroys your tolerance for flowers and I like to smoke. If you want to conceal there is always edibles. I make caps.

 

[Bennyweed1]

Me personally, I harvest a lot of plants a year, and every harvest there is a ton of larf, the stuff no one likes to trim and amounts to nothing. I save that stuff in trash bags and have about three full bags every year.

Its covered in crystal but just not pretty. I use iso alcohol, mix it together in a big rice cooker, then use the rice cooker to evap all the iso, then it sits under a fan for 2 days to get the last trace mounts out.

Turns out pretty awesome but I probably use a gallon of iso , or a little more per trash bag.

I dont know what it is considered at the end. Hash oil? I just call it dabs. I dont like smoking it though....lol...I just like green. It gets me to high and it feels different.

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

I vape and dab lots of bho. Pens really don't compare to fat rips on nails. Not even close. The articles you read are kinda accurate about the hallucinating in my opinion. Especially for first timers and/or people with low tolerance. Not hallucinating in the sense where your seeing all kinds of fucked up shit that's not really there. But I feel actual visual peception can be altered by it.

The effects do come on strong and hard to me and most people I know. Without tolerance concealing it would be hard if not impossible(especially if your white as a ghost and can't function). If you do have a tolerance it's no problem to do them and then go out in public, maybe even work depending on where you work.

 

[Dready_jake]

As a heavy dabber I just went through two grams of shatter in like a day and a half. I'd say they are totally different. Pretty Much straight THC I'm dabs is different than flower with all it's extra terpenes and cannabinoids that don't get extracted. I like to do dabs and smoke flower. But different sides of the same coins. Flowers hi is more complete but then you also have that smell and taste of weed on your breath whereas Dabs you don't have it on your breath as much and you can just do a dab and go right back into work.(after you're done coughing of course)

 

[Dready_jake]

both!that's my morning dab with my coffee

both!that's my morning dab with my coffee

 

[hereandnow]

I vape and dab lots of bho. Pens really don't compare to fat rips on nails. Not even close. The articles you read are kinda accurate about the hallucinating in my opinion. Especially for first timers and/or people with low tolerance. Not hallucinating in the sense where your seeing all kinds of fucked up shit that's not really there. But I feel actual visual peception can be altered by it.

See this is what Im talking about. I don't really know anything about vaping at all...so is vaping a single hit of BHO from a pen equivalent to taking a hit of regular bud off a one hitter? This is what it seemed like to me the couple times I tried it. Seemed about equal. Which is what was so confusing to me in those articles.

 

[Dready_jake]

See this is what Im talking about. I don't really know anything about vaping at all...so is vaping a single hit of BHO from a pen equivalent to taking a hit of regular bud off a one hitter? This is what it seemed like to me the couple times I tried it. Seemed about equal. Which is what was so confusing to me in those articles.

a pen is absolutely gonna be roughly the same potency as some great herb(one hitter or bowls worth will depend on if theyre a light wieght). thats why i hate pens, a dab burns alot more than a pen is capable therefore can be a lot more intense i do this size and larger-> all day err day and its about equal to a bowl of really dank weed back in the "first dabs" days now that was with my coffee and ive done like ten-fifteen more haha\

what people think dabs are:
what dabs actualy areX4-6)i.e. more thc in less time, but not much else. lmfao they are more potent. not hallucinogenic. faster way of ingestion with less matter plant or matter otherwise. the amount of butane in each hit of a bowl or bong is like 150 times what you should get with some well purged BHO(shatter/ wax/oil its all the same to me). but unless ur using one like a cloud, hash oil pens are typically mixed with propylene glycol. Fracturized coconut oil is catching on for the O-pen/liquid style pens for health/safety/taste concerns. like i said before i wouldn't like to go without a combination of bothdabs and flower though. if youd like to try shatter on a budget check out rosin tech on this site... idk how i feel about it yet but everyonesays its a tasty dab with no explosive butane or alcohol or expert knowledge. give it a search!

 

[HempKat]

Says the potency is upwards of 90% THC and it gets you extremely high, borderline hallucinating (according to a couple articles)...
...Are these articles blowing it out of proportion?

Thanks in advance for the help guys

It's kind of hard to say without seeing exactly how the articles were written. The 90% thing is fairly accurate because the whole point of doing extracts is to try to have just pure resin which would be largely THC. As for hallucinations I say BS unless you hallucinate off of just smoking a phat joint by yourself. All an extract is, is a concentrated form of weed. Making an extract though does not add a hallucinatory effect. Marijuana is technically qualified as a hallucinogen but in over 40 years of smoking I've never hallucinated off of any marijuana and I've had really good shit over the years to try to hallucinate off of

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

See this is what Im talking about. I don't really know anything about vaping at all...so is vaping a single hit of BHO from a pen equivalent to taking a hit of regular bud off a one hitter? This is what it seemed like to me the couple times I tried it. Seemed about equal. Which is what was so confusing to me in those articles.

A lot of what matters when it comes to BHO is the starting material. If your taking hit's off pens and it's like smoking a hit of weed out of a pipe, then the oil prolly isn't that strong. The starting material more than likely wasn't that good of quality.

Pen hits, although not as strong as a nail hit, should be stonger than a hit of good weed. If it's not the starting material for the BHO wasn't that good to begin with.

Now if you have some killer killer starting material like GG#4/GSC cookie sugar leaves, and/or buds of those strains(really most any good buds) the BHO is gonna be really strong and on another level compared to smoking flowers.