Official ICM 420 Growers/Breeders Cup 2011 Info

[cheesey]

If people can afford to fly to/stay in amsterdam, I think they can afford to pay 25 euros lol. I realize there will be people attending that are already close(r) but ya 25 euros is negligible. I have no idea what their costs are or what goes on @ the cup nor am I saying that 25 is either right or wrong. Just saying....

u dont see the point what JamieShoes ,fizzybomb and others are saying . say they enter the sativa and inc growers cup they will be sending in 1oz of each strain (56grams ) what is worth 560 euros of anyones money but still need to pay 25 euro just to walk in .
i feel growers/breeders who are entering should get a free pass .

 

[McSnappler]

what does last year have to do with this year?

Knowing how many samples there were in a particularly category last time may give us hints as to how many there are likely be this time.

This, in turn, allows a value judgement to be made, based upon cost of judging pack, divided by likely number of samples.

You may respond telling me this is irrelevant, because the opportunity to be a judge outweighs any cost. This is fine, and if this is your outlook, you obviously have much more disposable income than the majority of the world. In this case, buy your pass and I'll see you with a grin on your face in April.

For the rest of us, with bills to pay and mouths to feed, we'll stick to a value judgement based on whether we think the cost is justifiable.

 

[PhenoMenal]

DutchGrown, any chance you can outline the costs that Gypsy/you/anybody are paying for this?
It might help people realise where their hard earned dollars are going
Thankyou kindly

 

[fizzbomb]

DutchGrown, any chance you can outline the costs that Gypsy/you/anybody are paying for this?
thankyou kindly

lol, i tell the jokes around here bro, not you

 

[Jahtrip]

lol, i tell the jokes around here bro, not you

hahaha...

 

[mr.haze420]

having been to all the cups the entry's in total have been in the 30 range., thats total for all the categorys. there are no entry fees for growers and breeders, just the weed. 1 pass is free with a weed entry

 

[Hempyfan]

Im in and got a pass for em all!

Please humor me a bit.
Click on verified auction,
fill out auction form,
send money order,
wait until magic day in April,
Show up at Mila's and give the auction number/code?

Is their a confirmation or something to ensure all is good once they get the money order?

Thank you and See you all in April!

 

[McSnappler]

having been to all the cups the entry's in total have been in the 30 range., thats total for all the categorys. there are no entry fees for growers and breeders, just the weed. 1 pass is free with a weed entry

Yeah, was about 30 the year I came, including hash.

 

[cheesey]

having been to all the cups the entry's in total have been in the 30 range., thats total for all the categorys. there are no entry fees for growers and breeders, just the weed. 1 pass is free with a weed entry

Entry Fee Breeders/Seed Co's may enter without an entry fee, so if planning to attend, you must purchase a Guest Pass

THEN IT SAYS

All breeder/seed co's entering will receive 1 Competitor Pass which will have all the inclusions of the guest pass purchased but without voting rights to cannabis/hashish categories and is in lieu of guest pass distribution.

 

[fizzbomb]

yeah i noticed that as well cheesey, and this is the thing, if I was entering as an independent grower how come i got to pay for a guest pass if im getting the competitors pass for free when i do enter, it does everything the guest pass does only i cant vote for the coffee shop of the year, to do this i would need to purchase a guest pass for 25 euro if i wanted to vote for coffee shop of the year as the competitors pass is basically the same as a guest pass or am i missing something ????

just noticed something as well at the top of this page lol, ICMAG 420 fundraiser auction, and you guys got a cheek to be charging for a guest pass as well, where does the 420 fundraiser auction money go or does that have nothing to do with this cup as to me it kinda implies that the fundraiser auction is to help with any costs of the ICMAG 420 cup, and now your charging to be a guest as well, so is the fundraiser auction to help with this cup or is it for something different????

 

[mr.haze420]

yeah i noticed that as well cheesey, and this is the thing, if I was entering as an independent grower how come i got to pay for a guest pass if im getting the competitors pass for free when i do enter, it does everything the guest pass does only i cant vote for the coffee shop of the year, to do this i would need to purchase a guest pass for 25 euro if i wanted to vote for coffee shop of the year as the competitors pass is basically the same as a guest pass or am i missing something ????

you are correct, no voting with a competitors pass, if you want to vote for coffeeshop you will have to buy a guest pass.

 

[cheesey]

yeah i noticed that as well cheesey, and this is the thing, if I was entering as an independent grower how come i got to pay for a guest pass if im getting the competitors pass for free when i do enter, it does everything the guest pass does only i cant vote for the coffee shop of the year, to do this i would need to purchase a guest pass for 25 euro if i wanted to vote for coffee shop of the year as the competitors pass is basically the same as a guest pass or am i missing something ????

from what mr haze just told me if u enter u get a free pass. BUT u cant vote for coffee shop of the yr or breeder of the year to do that u need to spend 25e lol .

 

[mr.haze420]

from what mr haze just told me if u enter u get a free pass. BUT u cant vote for coffee shop of the yr or breeder of the year to do that u need to spend 25e lol .

breeder of the year, only gn decides who will receive it, no voting

 

[cheesey]

breeder of the year is the award that gn decides who will receive it, no voting

o right . cheers

 

[PhenoMenal]

breeder of the year, only gn decides who will receive it, no voting

So why would anyone bother paying 150 euros to be a judge... ?

What do they get for their money besides just a few grams of pot and having ZERO say in who gets to be the ultimate winner???
Why even bother having judges (and charging them a small fortune) if only one person decides the result???
(especially when it costs Gypsy/the organisers nothing to allow judges entry, as they aren't paying for the pot, the donors are)
The judges pay a shitload of money to be a judge, and may only end up with a few grams of pot, yet it all comes down to one other person (Gypsy) to make the final verdict ... so why bother? Doesn't make much sense to me sorry! It's about as transparent as aluminium foil, sorry

And besides, just because somebody pays money to become a judge doesn't mean theyre a good judge ... you should encourage reputable people to judge it, as their knowledge and experience is not only PRICELESS, but HIGHLY REGARDED amongst peers here, and peer review is the system that universities use.

Gypsy may have his own personal favourite (and due to his business there'll always be questions about that), but that may not necessarily be what the vast majority of paying judges think, yet the winner will be the result of what ONE MAN thinks, not what THE VAST MAJORITY thinks, even tho THE VAST MAJORITY are paying a lot of dollars just to judge.

Sorry, but there's just something not quite right about that. :-/

Peace

 

[Hempyfan]

So much over the price. Yea it hurt, especially when I was originally thinking it was gonna be around 300 euros for it all and I would have gotten a few passes at that price but life goes on. Perhaps if it was that price I might not have gotten one of the limited passes. So to some point, the price weeded out some competition for the pass.

I see it as a celebration and I am happy to go.

 

[JamieShoes]

Anyone who went last year know which category had the most samples?

In fact, a full rundown of what was in each category would be sweet.. then people could make a relatively informed choice about which pass, if any, to buy.

just posted this info in the camping thread mate

 

[fizzbomb]

So why would anyone bother paying 150 euros to be a judge... ?

What do they get for their money besides just a few grams of pot and having ZERO say in who gets to be the ultimate winner???
Why even bother having judges (and charging them a small fortune) if only one person decides the result???
(especially when it costs Gypsy/the organisers nothing to allow judges entry, as they aren't paying for the pot, the donors are)
The judges pay a shitload of money to be a judge, and may only end up with a few grams of pot, yet it all comes down to one other person (Gypsy) to make the final verdict ... so why bother? Doesn't make much sense to me sorry! It's about as transparent as aluminium foil, sorry

And besides, just because somebody pays money to become a judge doesn't mean theyre a good judge ... you should encourage reputable people to judge it, as their knowledge and experience is not only PRICELESS, but HIGHLY REGARDED amongst peers here, and peer review is the system that universities use.

Gypsy may have his own personal favourite (and due to his business there'll always be questions about that), but that may not necessarily be what the vast majority of paying judges think, yet the winner will be the result of what ONE MAN thinks, not what THE VAST MAJORITY thinks, even tho THE VAST MAJORITY are paying a lot of dollars just to judge.

Sorry, but there's just something not quite right about that. :-/

Peace

hi m8, the only thing that gypsy decides on is the breeder of the year, every1 else votes on independent grower or breeder and seed co entry's and they votes will decide on who wins, not gypsy, the only thing gypsy decides on is the breeder of the year, nothing else, the winner of the independent grower and the breeder and seed co entrys will be decided on the vote by the judges, not gypsy PhenoMenal.

 

[mr.haze420]

So why would anyone bother paying 150 euros to be a judge... ?

What do they get for their money besides just a few grams of pot and having ZERO say in who gets to be the ultimate winner???
Why even bother having judges (and charging them a small fortune) if only one person decides the result???
(especially when it costs Gypsy/the organisers nothing to allow judges entry, as they aren't paying for the pot, the donors are)
The judges pay a shitload of money to be a judge, and may only end up with a few grams of pot, yet it all comes down to one other person (Gypsy) to make the final verdict ... so why bother? Doesn't make much sense to me sorry! It's about as transparent as aluminium foil, sorry

And besides, just because somebody pays money to become a judge doesn't mean theyre a good judge ... you should encourage reputable people to judge it, as their knowledge and experience is not only PRICELESS, but HIGHLY REGARDED amongst peers here, and peer review is the system that universities use.

Gypsy may have his own personal favourite (and due to his business there'll always be questions about that), but that may not necessarily be what the vast majority of paying judges think, yet the winner will be the result of what ONE MAN thinks, not what THE VAST MAJORITY thinks, even tho THE VAST MAJORITY are paying a lot of dollars just to judge.

Sorry, but there's just something not quite right about that.

Peace

all weed awards are voted on by the judges, gn has the final say on the breeder of the year award. i personally like the highlife mag cup. entry's are submitted a 4-6 weeks before the awards, plenty of time to smoke all and make up your mind and the judges are people in the biz. the party was held at ruigoord and all food, drinks and samples for vaporising were free. it was a blast and very well attended.

 

[JamieShoes]

So why would anyone bother paying 150 euros to be a judge... ?

What do they get for their money besides just a few grams of pot and having ZERO say in who gets to be the ultimate winner???
Why even bother having judges (and charging them a small fortune) if only one person decides the result???
(especially when it costs Gypsy/the organisers nothing to allow judges entry, as they aren't paying for the pot, the donors are)
The judges pay a shitload of money to be a judge, and may only end up with a few grams of pot, yet it all comes down to one other person (Gypsy) to make the final verdict ... so why bother? Doesn't make much sense to me sorry! It's about as transparent as aluminium foil, sorry

And besides, just because somebody pays money to become a judge doesn't mean theyre a good judge ... you should encourage reputable people to judge it, as their knowledge and experience is not only PRICELESS, but HIGHLY REGARDED amongst peers here, and peer review is the system that universities use.

Gypsy may have his own personal favourite (and due to his business there'll always be questions about that), but that may not necessarily be what the vast majority of paying judges think, yet the winner will be the result of what ONE MAN thinks, not what THE VAST MAJORITY thinks, even tho THE VAST MAJORITY are paying a lot of dollars just to judge.

Sorry, but there's just something not quite right about that. :-/

Peace

BREEDER OF THE YEAR is like a LIFETIME acheivement in TV/Movies - he only picks the recipient of that award.

JUDGES will still determine the outcome of the standings for all samples entered.

Hope that makes sense



and I was only the 3rd person to post this...hehehe