O.G. kush mystery Solved!!??!

[pappy masonjar]

According to an article just published in a major counterculture magazine... The controversy is over. Apparently, all the stories about early 90's florida -->to cali are correct (according to this article). The guy claims it originated from bagseed of super good kind bud [no specific strain name, (Maybe it was chem, he did say early 90's, but that's just my speculation)] Personally, i dont have nearly enough info about it to know what to think really. But the one thing in the story that did make sense to me, the guy interviewed (alledgedly one of the original creators of bubba and og) said that kush was named "kush" purely as coincidence. They didnt know there was another strain named hindu kush or any kush for that matter, and they hadnt even heard of the hindu kush mountains. That makes sense to me as og is tall and lanky sat/indy hybrid, and real 'kush' is a short and stocky indica. So anyways, this strain called kush, along with a strain just called bubba, were taken to cali. Once there, it started really gaining a buzz, eventually commanding 8,500 a lb. After a short time of extreme popularity, other pretender "kush's" started showing up. Of corse these were not as good, and the price began to fall. So in response, the creators added the "O.G." prefix to distinguish the 'original'. Also, the article said that B-real discovered the original bubba kush, as bagseed in a bag of original og kush (the buds had been pollinated by a Northern Lights cross from humboldt (via florida, then back to cali) simply called 'bubba'). Anyways, true or not, it was an intresting read and i thought i would share. I would love to know what all the O.G. heads think, especially the cats who been around for a while.

p.s. this info also really makes the "f-cut", "b-real", and "s.a.c." cuts realling intresting to me.

PLEASE DONT SHOT THE MESSENGER! thank you

 

[SooperSmurph]

OG Kush doesn't exist.

So where did all this bud come from? Growers exist in a world of supply and demand, and as idiots demand fake strains from movies and television, we have to come up with equivalents.

Pineapple Express didn't exist, and then it was everywhere.

OG Kush is the same, and this gives explanation to the huge variety of "Regional" OGs (SFV, Tahoe, etc) that popped up, as morons started asking their dealer, "man, you got that OG Kush? someone told me a random asinine story about getting really high at a party on OG Kush" he asked his supplier, and so on, until a frustrated grower wrote that label onto an especially dank plant to shut them up.

This story repeats itself again and again, as long as the market continues to center around ignorance, people will keep demanding things that don't exist.

 

[lloyd_christmas]

B-real discovered bubba? Bullshit.

 

[LyryC]

Read the below in another thread here - the OG poll Thread. Link is at the bottom.


Was on Another forum and read this.. Good OG read, I'm sure it's on this forum somewhere or another but why not added it here for others to read too.. Enjoy.


"In late '93 John from Grass Valley Ca. got the Chem Dog cut. He shared it with me, Jerry(cowboy) from Dibble Creek Ca. and Harold(Putz) from Sunset Beach Ca. Putz had a male he called the secret ingredient. It was a cross of Lemon Thai and an Old World Paki Kush. Putz bred the secret ingredient to the Chem Dog. The buds that came out of this cross were going around So. L.A. county in '95. Someone told Putz that Kush must be so good because it was mountain grown. Putz laughed and told him "this Kush is Ocean Grown Kush bro". The tag stuck and it became known as OG Kush. In the spring of '96 Putz married a girl from New Zealand. Before moving there he sent cuts of his OG to me and Bob(beans) in Salinas Ca. He gave all his P1 stock and all the remaining seed he had to ****(mad dog) from Downey Ca. In late '96 **** sold some seed to some guys in the Valley. That's where the San Fernando Valley cut of OG comes from. It's like the Original only more sat in pheno type. **** sold a cut of the original to a guy in Orange county and that cut is called Larry today. It's still around Orange county. **** sent one other cut of the original OG to a breeder in Europe. As far as I know he never let anyone else have it.
Jerry bred his Chem Dog cut to a Humboldt county indica boy. This was the beginning of his cubing proccess. At BX3 he got a pheno that had all the smell, taste and kick of the Chem Dog, but in a pure indica pheno. Jerry gave this plant to Bob. It became known as the West Coast Dog.
Bob bred this plant to my Old World Kush male. He took a male from that cross and bred it to the OG cut Putz had sent him. This is what made the original Bubba Kush."

Lineage:ChemDawg x [ Lemon Thai x Old World Paki Kush]

Info on the differnt kutz of OG Kush:

Tahoe= cut brough into the community by Swerve. The grower that Swerve got it from had sourced the cut in the Lake Tahoe area in the 90's.

-Larry= The Orange County Larry cut that is availble in the medical scene came from the same Orange County crew that the H.A O.G Kush came from

-SFV= There are a million O.G cuts grown in the S.F.V, however the cut that goes by this name on these forums and in medical disp. came from forum member Swerve

-Ghost= This cut came from ORGNKID, ORGNKID had sold a O.G cut to a Overgrow forum member named "Ghost" who further distributed the cut.

-Tripple OG= This cut came from ORGNKID. This cut is A.K.A Triple X/XXX O.G Kush. Triple O.G was popularly sold to medical patients by the now defunct C.A.L.M disp. of Malibu.

-Abusive= This cut was brought into the community by an overgrow member named "Abusive", believe it or not Abusive claimed to have got the cut through the rapper Snoop Dogg.

-SAC#2= Cut brought into the scene by forum member O.Gkushman, O.Gkushman got the cut from DJ Muggs.

-P.R OG A.K.A Private Reserve O.G= Another O.G cut that ORGNKID brought into the scene. The cut was sold to Med patients as Private Reserve O.G through the now defunct C.A.L.M disp. of Malibu.

-Apothecary = O.G cut brought into the scene by the apothecary seed co's Brett. Brett got it from a high profile Medical MJ activist in L.A back in 1999

-Diablo= This = cut came from the R.D.C disp. In the San Fernando Valley

-Raskal's OG= Another cut sourced in the San Fernando Valley. Cut was bought for several thousand dollers from ******* ***** members by a friends of forum member OGraskal

-HA OG= Cut came from an commercial H.A room in Orange County, grown by the same crew that brought the Orange County Larry cut into the medical Disp.

-Poison OG=Cut came from O.Gkushman, he grew it from seed found in a pound of O.G back in ‘96

-SAC#1 & #3= #1 came from G-Thumb in the San Fernando Valley, #3 came from San Fernando Valley but is very popular in Santa Barbara and sometimes goes by the name “Purple O.G Kush”, the cut was brought into the scene by the owner of the now defunct Hortipharm in Santa Barbara

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=267304&page=3

 

[pappy masonjar]

According to this article. Not me.
Also, this guy that was interviewed (he goes by bubba) is apparently the head grower for Rocky Mtn. High in denver.
And please remember, im just a guy who read an article that i found interesting. I was 7 in 1991, ive never been to a medical state, and i dont Know shit.

That kaliua kid thing has been out forever, i think most have seen it. I want to know what people think about THIS article. thank you though.

 

[Oh gee]

This doesn't solve a thing, just more bull shit and speculation. The real answer is "who knows". You don't have to know where something came from, for it to be real.

Bottom line, og is good smoke,enjoyed by many. And it's genetics has some mystery. What's the original cut? Because every clone only came from a seed at some time. Who was the breeder? Someone made the criss? Many talk, few know.

 

[pappy masonjar]

It was just the stupid title i picked real quick. Your definently right, this doesnt solve shit.
I just thought that the purpose of the site is for discussin of weed related stuff. I also thought id put it up for people who may not read that publication. Fwiw, its not real important to me.

 

[Oh gee]

No, it's cool. I like discussing this kind of shit. If I didn't, wouldn't have replied. Im not upset or irritated.

Id like to see it reproduced. Or for someone to try.

 

[RandyCalifornia]

There were many people growing Kush in Humboldt, in the late 70's

 

[BushyOldGrower]

I believe the story does show some history but it's hard to prove.

There is a true afghani kush however. There certainly were kushes grown long ago.

I have tried a lotta Kushes and some have a funk like the old pre 98 bubba that is still around.

Probably a lot of us believe our stories and would like to believe we really know all about the backgrounds of our genetics.

But really you can't be sure so finding what people like is key.

What's in a name? Would not a rose by any other name smell as sweet?

Bog

 

[ECtraveler]

They didnt know there was another strain named hindu kush or any kush for that matter, and they hadnt even heard of the hindu kush mountains.

I really, really find this hard to believe

 

[Eighths-n-Aces]

and all this time i thought jimmy hoffa and amelia earhart were the ones who found the OG.

i need to smoke more ............ so i could give a fuck less about "unsolved mysteries"

 

[pappy masonjar]

^^^These are the types of heads i especially wanna hear from, thanks for checkin it out randy, Bog. Much respect.
I think he acknowledged that there was "kush" that had already been around. But he claims that he was completely unaware of ANY kush strains, and it was a complete coincidence that he named his bagseed strain, 'kush'. He says he named it that because a friend's older brother, "said it looked like kushberries, whatever the hell that is..". (Yeah, i know right.) However, all in all the story did seem pretty believable, imho.

 

[pappy masonjar]

I really, really find this hard to believe

I agree, the part about the name being a 'coincidence', that was the hardest part to swallow. I kinda feel like that's one hellava coincidence, especially cause i can taste real kush, in o.g. (i could be wrong about that though, im far from an authority on kush)

 

[Fly by Night]

discovered OG in a hotel off the Vegas strip...

 

[Moody Gunsmith]

B-real discovered bubba? Bullshit.

Lol, my bullshit detector is going off too!!

Rapper worship is corny as FK!!

Remember this quote by warren g? "if you smoke like I smoke you'd be high like every day". Wow.. every day?? he must be cool.. Benign prostate enlargement means I smoke several times a night during my sleep, (each time I get up for a piss) I must be soo gangsta!

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

I firmly believe the old story that O.G came from Chem 91 in some way. Altho I have no first hand experience with Chem 91, I feel if you look at the '91 and OG Kush side by side you see some definite similarities.

I don't believe anything from High Times, or anyone that tries to claim responsibility for the creation of OGK. OG has been around a long time and no one has ever been able to lay direct claim on it's creation.

I find B-Reals involvement quite fishy, HT probably just threw his name in there to help promote his new seed line. He's the newest person to stroke the chemdog line, give it some time and he'll probably be taking credit for that too.

I don't know if I believe OG and Bubba are related. Bubba grows like a pure afghan, slow and stocky, OG is a floppy stinky mess, with very distinct growth patterns. I don't really see many similarities between the two. But one thing I will say, is that when OGK is used in a cross it dominates, just look at any cross made with an OGK female and you will see what I mean. If it was the mother of Bubba, I think we would see a lot more influence.

 

[stickyicky009]

Lol, my bullshit detector is going off too!!

Rapper worship is corny as FK!!

Remember this quote by warren g? "if you smoke like I smoke you'd be high like every day". Wow.. every day?? he must be cool.. Benign prostate enlargement means I smoke several times a night during my sleep, (each time I get up for a piss) I must be soo gangsta!

^ jajajajaja .. check this www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK7JE4bbW24 .. " he's shit is not around " ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMJyjWhOgU0 .

 

[pappy masonjar]

I firmly believe the old story that O.G came from Chem 91 in some way. Altho I have no first hand experience with Chem 91, I feel if you look at the '91 and OG Kush side by side you see some definite similarities.

I don't believe anything from High Times, or anyone that tries to claim responsibility for the creation of OGK. OG has been around a long time and no one has ever been able to lay direct claim on it's creation.

I find B-Reals involvement quite fishy, HT probably just threw his name in there to help promote his new seed line. He's the newest person to stroke the chemdog line, give it some time and he'll probably be taking credit for that too.


I don't know if I believe OG and Bubba are related. Bubba grows like a pure afghan, slow and stocky, OG is a floppy stinky mess, with very distinct growth patterns. I don't really see many similarities between the two. But one thing I will say, is that when OGK is used in a cross it dominates, just look at any cross made with an OGK female and you will see what I mean. If it was the mother of Bubba, I think we would see a lot more influence.

Have you ever grown an O.G. x haze cross? O.g. definetly doesnt always dominate. And if the reversed bubba father was super dominant, and was even more stocky and indica-like than its offspring (Bubba Kush), than it's possible; imo anyways. keyword= possible

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

Have you ever grown an O.G. x haze cross?

Actually yes I have, and OG shines thru, the stink, the structure, the calyx to leaf ratio, the nute sensitivities, unmistakably OG.

Show me an OG cross where OG doesnt dominate? The only time I have see OG get washed out was when it was a female x OG BX1 male, this was the only time no OG qualities were seen.

Im not just talking out my ass here, I own and have grown 2 legit cuts of OG, I have Bubba K and I have run OG S1's, and OG/Haze crosses