NYC RESIDENTS BE CAREFUL!

[Truthman]

I just heard that if you get caught with any guns or drugs in your car in NYC they will confiscate it and you can't get it back.

NYC is becoming a ****ed up place so be careful. Peace.

 

[panopticist]

Hence the word 'seizure' in the term 'search and seizure'. And it's not just an NY thing...

I was under the assumption that you had to be in possession of a large enough quantity of illicit substances to be considered trafficking before the seizure of any property would take place.

 

[weed enjoyer]

wowwww this is really breaking news

 

[Truthman]

From what I heard ANY amount is reason to seize and NYC in known to illegally search cars.

This is a new law.

Also, what I'm stating is they can KEEP the car, that is why I feel this is a big thing.

 

[dreamdancer]

No Escape

Beginning in Harlem in 2006, near the site of two new luxury condos, the NYPD set up a moveable "two-story booth tower, called Sky Watch," that gave an "officer sitting inside a better vantage point from which to monitor the area." The Panopticon-like structure -- originally used by hunters to shoot quarry from overhead and now also utilized by the Department of Homeland Security along the Mexican border -- was outfitted with black-tinted windows, a spotlight, sensors, and four to five cameras. Now, five Sky Watch towers are in service, rotating in and out of various neighborhoods.

With their 20-25 neighborhood-scanning cameras, the towers are only a tiny fraction of the Big Apple surveillance story. Back in 1998, the New York Civil Liberties Union (NYCLU) found that there were "2,397 cameras used by a wide variety of private businesses and government agencies throughout Manhattan" -- and that was just one borough. About a year after the RNC, the group reported that a survey of just a quarter of that borough yielded a count of more than 4,000 surveillance cameras of every kind. At about the same time, military-corporate giant Lockheed Martin was awarded a $212 million contract to build a "counter-terrorist surveillance and security system for New York's subways and commuter railroads as well as bridges and tunnels" that would increase the camera total by more than 1,000. A year later, as seems to regularly be the case with contracts involving the military-corporate complex, that contract had already ballooned to $280 million, although the system was not to be operational until at least 2008.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/63990/

 

[simba]

they can seize ur ride in allot of states nowadays..
My car was seized and i didn't even legally own it (name not on title at all)
but ya i was transporting with intent to deliver (SET-UP) to a med pataint that couldnt take her own rap and had to hurt so many pataints..so she could avoide a few hundo fine.. (she had a bowel) i had to buy car back for KBB. and they tried to keep past the limit for me to buy it back. Good thing is i had Gear in there worth more than the car.. so it woulda been stupid to let the car go. They just didnt relize what was there..

they taking rights away, and Controlling everything with sever penilties to keep u in check.. Rent a car or use Public or taxi when doing big deliveries.. Just head to hotel in taxi from ur area and from hotel to delivery point.. to taxi it looks normal if u carying a backpack from hotel etc.....

patriot act does allot more than u think.. to go after growers..
they starting to Say and charge growers as terroists as it suposedly still funding terror if u growing for urself.. (yeah teror in the DEA cause they making no money if u growing ur own.. they make there money off there being a illicit trade that they can go after..)its all a circle and as the user we need to end there end of it..

PLANT CRAZY SEEDS this spring.... OVERGROW THE WORLD>>
we allways throwin seeds around here.. keeps them busy if nothing else.. but also shows public they not winning..

 

[Depths Of OG]

OH MY GOD!!!! BREAKING NEWS!!! EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT!!! LAW THAT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR AGES JUST RECENTLY DISCOVERED!!! /sarcasm

If your vehicle is used in the comission of ANY felony, it may be seized and you may not get it back.

 

[nycdfan042]

LMFAO!!!! yo i herd taht if you get caught inside a meth lab you might hafta go to a polie station and asnwer questions and yo! you might even go to JAIL!

 

[teddybud]

LMFAO!!!! yo i herd taht if you get caught inside a meth lab you might hafta go to a polie station and asnwer questions and yo! you might even go to JAIL!

hahahahahhaha

 

[Truthman]

OH MY GOD!!!! BREAKING NEWS!!! EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT!!! LAW THAT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR AGES JUST RECENTLY DISCOVERED!!! /sarcasm

If your vehicle is used in the comission of ANY felony, it may be seized and you may not get it back.

Maybe you didn't read right. ANY AMOUNT meaning a joint or a little in a bag will get your car taken and you will have to BUY it back at an AUCTION NOT pay a fine to get it out. In NYC anything under 25 grams is a civil citation and NOT a felony so I don't see how you can compare this to something as serious as a felony charge.

This law hasn't been on the books because it's new.

I would think that being this is a cannabis site that people would at least look more into this but I get mostly sarcastic replies. I see why cannabis isn't going anywhere in america ESPECIALLY NYC.

I remember when nyc was the place people were at that spoke their mind, a lot of people were free thinking but times have really changed.

No more fighting back, at least the way it used to be and instead of questioning what I'm saying, I'm getting people who act like they already know what I'm talking about when I already explained that this is a different law.

VERY SAD. Peace.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the info... It is not easy to get people to take things seriously on icmag... Stoners...lol Yup, that's us.

Was the Giuliani mindset how NYC arrived at this....? Over POT....? The rest of the world chortles and tsks-tsks, at our provincialism.

Other than geographically, America is not at all #1 anymore, if it ever was.

Imagine if Giuliani-fascist-fear-ruled-machine was prez.. Terror rules the millenium - real or imagined. The rest of the world has been dealing with this set of circumstances for decades. Leaders in the USA are so weak and shortsighted. Legislating freedom away for the sake of supposed 'safety." Which we are not.

Orwell undulates in his tomb.

 

[Truthman]

No Escape

Beginning in Harlem in 2006, near the site of two new luxury condos, the NYPD set up a moveable "two-story booth tower, called Sky Watch," that gave an "officer sitting inside a better vantage point from which to monitor the area." The Panopticon-like structure -- originally used by hunters to shoot quarry from overhead and now also utilized by the Department of Homeland Security along the Mexican border -- was outfitted with black-tinted windows, a spotlight, sensors, and four to five cameras. Now, five Sky Watch towers are in service, rotating in and out of various neighborhoods.

With their 20-25 neighborhood-scanning cameras, the towers are only a tiny fraction of the Big Apple surveillance story. Back in 1998, the New York Civil Liberties Union (NYCLU) found that there were "2,397 cameras used by a wide variety of private businesses and government agencies throughout Manhattan" -- and that was just one borough. About a year after the RNC, the group reported that a survey of just a quarter of that borough yielded a count of more than 4,000 surveillance cameras of every kind. At about the same time, military-corporate giant Lockheed Martin was awarded a $212 million contract to build a "counter-terrorist surveillance and security system for New York's subways and commuter railroads as well as bridges and tunnels" that would increase the camera total by more than 1,000. A year later, as seems to regularly be the case with contracts involving the military-corporate complex, that contract had already ballooned to $280 million, although the system was not to be operational until at least 2008.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/63990/

Thanks for the link. It's a good article.

 

[fr33th3w33d]

anyone that lives in new york will tell you that weed is nothing.

its treated as a ticket. you pay a hundred or so bucks and no more mention of it.

i've been hearing alot of strange news about NYC lately.. somewhat out of character for the big apple.

 

[Truthman]

anyone that lives in new york will tell you that weed is nothing.

its treated as a ticket. you pay a hundred or so bucks and no more mention of it.

i've been hearing alot of strange news about NYC lately.. somewhat out of character for the big apple.

I from NYC and seen the change.

Yes, it's not something serious like jail time BUT in a lot of cases you WILL sit in jail waiting to be heard in court. It USED to be just a ticket and you will be on your way. Not anymore.

With this new law, they up'ed the ante if the weed is in the car.

 

[nycdfan042]

i think you should have guns n weeed in a car driving around in NYC..thats just me..im going out on a limb here.... ijust think its bettter for asicety when you can carry your fire arm and have a lit joint whilst driving..thats just my thoughts...i could be wrong tho.. while im at im throwing batteries in the garbage and not doin ANY recycling!

 

[Guest]

What better place to test the boiling frog theory on the people than the largest metropolis in the united states? It's funny because the noose is slowly getting tighter and tighter, and NYC is damn near in the lead with draconian legislation, but just like the slowly boiled frog, the Yorker's aren't jumping out of the bubbling water!

These people have damn near got oppression down to a science. Their plans over the last century are clearly laid out in the protocols of the elders of zion, and are available online in English. If you have any question as to who, what, or why, I suggest you start your search there. You'll be shocked to see how accurately the plan is being carried out around you. http://iamthewitness.com/books/Protocols.in.Modern.English.htm

 

[Jack D Ripper]

i think you should have guns n weeed in a car driving around in NYC..thats just me..im going out on a limb here.... ijust think its bettter for asicety when you can carry your fire arm and have a lit joint whilst driving..thats just my thoughts...i could be wrong tho.. while im at im throwing batteries in the garbage and not doin ANY recycling!

I agree.

city folks are way to scared of guns. We had gun lockers in high school, and until the columbine shootings, we could bring shotguns to school... Iowa FTW!

people need to teach their kids the proper respect for firearms instead of letting halo 3 do it for them.

 

[fr33th3w33d]

have you ever smoked marijuana

"you bet i did, and i enjoyed it."- bloomberg..

 

[Truthman]

I looked more into this and it seems that they are twisting the law around to make money by confiscating cars and selling them.

Their statement goes "possession of drugs and weapons in vehicle renders vehicle instrumentality of the crime of
transporting drugs and weapons". This means ANY AMOUNT found can be claimed and the car can be seen as an instrument to transport drugs which means they can take your car and sell it.

If you want it back you have to contest it in court and prove that the car wasn't used to transport the drugs which I don't know how someone can do that.

They are some slick people. They are basically saying if the car is given back that you will continue to "traffic" drugs or you will be a heightened risk to public safety if you get caught with a weapon and the car is the instrument that helps you do this so they have to deter you from doing these things again.

BE SAFE EVERYBODY. Peace.

Here's something that might help understand but keep in mind the person who got stopped had a weapon BUT this is the same for cannabis, regardless of amount or first conviction. They do the same with drunk drivers who have a first conviction. They are the only state to do this, others only do it on the second or third offense and it's drunk driving not weapons or drugs.

http://www.citylaw.org/OATH/08_Cases/08-197md.pdf

"In the instant case, the Department seeks to sustain its retention of the seized vehicle as
the instrumentality of a crime, not as evidence in a criminal case. Therefore, the Department
bears the burden of proving three points by a preponderance of the evidence: (i) that probable
cause existed for the arrest pursuant to which the vehicle was seized; (ii) that it is likely that the
Department will prevail in a civil action for forfeiture of the vehicle; and (iii) that it is necessary
that the vehicle remain impounded to ensure its availability for a judgment of forfeiture. "

"In his defense, Mr. Chan argued that he has no prior record, did not intend to sell his gun
illegally, and is not a threat to society. He also stated that, in Georgia, he is generally permitted
to carry an unloaded gun to and from the gun range. He argued that the weapon was left in his
car from his last trip to Georgia. However these statements were not made under oath and it is
equally appropriate to draw an adverse inference against him with respect to the third Krimstock
prong and take the evidence presented in the light most favorable to the Department, including
all reasonable inferences to be drawn from such evidence. Since no sworn statements were made
to mitigate this risk, I find that the Department has met the third prong and the vehicle must not
be returned to Mr. Chan.

ORDER
The Department is entitled to retain the seized vehicle. "

 

[panopticist]

people need to teach their kids the proper respect for firearms instead of letting halo 3 do it for them.

Couldn't agree more...