Nutrient burn? HELP PLEASE

[weatherboxes]

So these plants were grown for about a week and a half in 4 inch pots with only fox farms ocean forest soil and were watered with RO water. The discoloration started on the larger plant in the small pot with the true leaf tips turning a slight yellowish brown. After yesterdays transplant into their 3gallon final resting pots the plant was a bit droopy today but still growing. The 3 gallon pot was a mixture of 80% FF ocean forest soil, 20% worm castings, 1tbs of organic starting fertz (5-6-4), and 1/2 tbs of organic blood meal. Each pot was mixed exactly the same. Any ideas whats up with her and if I should be worried? Thanks guys.

 

[dkmonk]

Just flush w/ a gallon of r/o water, and it should be fine.


edti: To be honest they dont look that burned they look a lil overwatered though.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

They might just be a little shocked from translplant, give them a few days to perk up. Also they looked a little n deficient, but dont give it more nutes until you give a chance to take hold in its new home. Also get some ph strips and test your run off water. It could just be your camera but it seems there is some sort of burn as well.

I agree with the above post.

 

[weatherboxes]

They might just be a little shocked from translplant, give them a few days to perk up. Also they looked a little n deficient, but dont give it more nutes until you give a chance to take hold in its new home. Also get some ph strips and test your run off water. It could just be your camera but it seems there is some sort of burn as well.

I agree with the above post.

cool thanks guys.. yeah im worried about the burning on it.. btw this is just two pictures of one of my plants. the other is doing just fine in its new home. so should i wait until it needs water again and flush? or just give it a few days to adjust?

 

[cellardweller]

leave it alone till it dries out completely, then give it a good dose of just plain ol ph'd water, or the r.o. you been using.
otherwise it sounds like yer on the right track..
don't forget, IC has one hell of a search function here..

 

[weatherboxes]

thanks dkmonk, hash zeppelin (there is not a greater blues band), and cellardweller! i was trippin' today about it as usual when one tiny thing goes wrong but i feel much better now. i couldn't ask for a more knowledgeable and just plain chill community. thanks again much love.

 

[tokinsmokin]

Thats not nute burn. Your plant is showing a Calcium deficiency. Since your using RO water you have stripped your water of calcium (ca) and mangnesium (mg). Most nutrients are designed for use with tap water. Go get a cal/mag product or start using tap water again and the problem should go away. Nute burn would burn the tips of your leafs not the inner edges like your leafs.

 

[weatherboxes]

Thats not nute burn. Your plant is showing a Calcium deficiency. Since your using RO water you have stripped your water of calcium (ca) and mangnesium (mg). Most nutrients are designed for use with tap water. Go get a cal/mag product or start using tap water again and the problem should go away. Nute burn would burn the tips of your leafs not the inner edges like your leafs.

whats up with people telling me that if you water with tap you will be able to taste it in the buds?? do you stop watering with tap during flowering? or is the whole thing just a myth.. or is that what flushing is for?? HMMMMM!!!?

 

[tokinsmokin]

whats up with people telling me that if you water with tap you will be able to taste it in the buds?? do you stop watering with tap during flowering? or is that just a myth..

Never heard that one. Personally I use RO water and love it and wouldn't use tap water. I formulate my nutrient ratios according to what mj wants and RO makes that possible. Although you could find out what your tap water has in it, by getting it tested. I would assume that people might stop using tap water to flush since there is ca and mg and other elements in it that would defeat the purpose of flushing with "plain water", hence the reason people might say you may taste it in your buds.

 

[supi1012]

ud hafta check the ppm of ur water. anything over 200 imo will leave you with shitty weed cause u can pour as much as u want through the pot but ud just be adding tons of shit (cal,some mag, chlorine, arsonic, etc.) instead of flushing everything out. ro water is good with calmag plus 5ml/g added then just ro for flush.

 

[weatherboxes]

hmm i might have to do some research and find out if the metals in tap will hurt my plants.. would spring water work any better?? i know they put minerals in that. you water with just ro.. do you get the mg and ca through supplements or what?

edit: are we talking about calmag the dissolving pills that you just throw in your water?? or is this something im going to need to pay extra for at a hydro store?

 

[supi1012]

next time u can throw in 1-2 tbs dolomite lime in your soil mix for your cal/mag and still use ro OR u can add cal-mag plus from botanicare but watch out for the readily available nitrogen in it, sometimes its not needed if the soil is really rich or ur in late bloom

 

[weatherboxes]

i think im going to stick with the RO and get some dolomite.. my nutes should be fine since the transplant is going to make alot of N and a little P and K available to the plants. well see how this works I'll pick up some of this Dlime tomorrow.

 

[tokinsmokin]

Yeah I use Botanicare Cal/Mag Plus.

 

[B.C.]

Looks like a good start Weatherboxes. Those plants are fixin to explode!.... No offence fellers, but it wouldn't do any good ta flush these plants, nothin in that soil would come out. They look fine anyway...... Tip I would suggest next time adding some perlite. Roots as well as the micro critters -love- lots of air! Good luck with the rest of yer grow. BC

 

[dkmonk]

If yah got any questions feel free to pm myself, or im sure the other guys would mind like hash zeppelin or B.C. I check my ic damn near 5x a day lol and have no problem helping people in need of it.

 

[weatherboxes]

Looks like a good start Weatherboxes. Those plants are fixin to explode!.... No offence fellers, but it wouldn't do any good ta flush these plants, nothin in that soil would come out. They look fine anyway...... Tip I would suggest next time adding some perlite. Roots as well as the micro critters -love- lots of air! Good luck with the rest of yer grow. BC

im not entirely sure but i think there is perlite in the soil already. you are in agreement that it is a cal/mag deficiency however correct? that seems to make the most sense considering i have only been watering them with RO water and the soil should have plenty of NPK.

EDIT: if any of you want/need some more detailed information about my grow setup check out my brand spankin' new diary http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=119548
No one has shown it any love yet and this is my first grow ever so I would greatly appreciate it. Seriously..

 

[B.C.]

I got side track writing my first post, and it didn't quite fit in right with the conversation, hehe, sorry!.... Anyhoo, you jus transplanted into fresh soil that's been amended. So these guys shouldn't need anything ta eat fer several weeks...... I don't see anything wrong with useing tap water. I've done it fer years. I never noticed any shitty flavor? always burns clean and tasty. Organics at it finest! I think that one's a myth yall..... If it were me I wouldn't do anything but water these plants ( with tap water ), and watch em grow. There should be enough food in that soil to make till ya flower them..... Oh, there is some perlite in there, but it could stand more. I use 30%. The more air the better! This a big key as to why hydro grows so fast. Only in this case the air is helping the bacteria thrive because there are aerobic and love air. Doin this will speed the whole organic process up. It shows too, the plants grow much faster! Plus the roots jus love having lots of air too....... You hollar if ya have any more questions, always glad ta help. BC

 

[weatherboxes]

I got side track writing my first post, and it didn't quite fit in right with the conversation, hehe, sorry!.... Anyhoo, you jus transplanted into fresh soil that's been amended. So these guys shouldn't need anything ta eat fer several weeks...... I don't see anything wrong with useing tap water. I've done it fer years. I never noticed any shitty flavor? always burns clean and tasty. Organics at it finest! I think that one's a myth yall..... If it were me I wouldn't do anything but water these plants ( with tap water ), and watch em grow. There should be enough food in that soil to make till ya flower them..... Oh, there is some perlite in there, but it could stand more. I use 30%. The more air the better! This a big key as to why hydro grows so fast. Only in this case the air is helping the bacteria thrive because there are aerobic and love air. Doin this will speed the whole organic process up. It shows too, the plants grow much faster! Plus the roots jus love having lots of air too....... You hollar if ya have any more questions, always glad ta help. BC

Thanks bro that's a lot of useful info.

 

[weatherboxes]

just an update: the plants true leaves have now almost turned completely yellow.. and the leaf set above that is still drooping down into the soil.. the other leaf sets on top are green still with the minor deficiencies but are lifting up towards the light. this still is indicative of cal / mag deficiency correct?