Ok so i ordered some GH flora series the floragro florabloom and floramicro. Ive seen nothing but good things about it but i just want to check and be sure it is as good as i read. Any downsides to it? I would feel better to hear from those of you who have experience with it. Just want to make sure its not too good to be true.
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- Thread starter Lexort420
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I haven't used it but have heard that brand name thrown around for many years so they must be doing something right. The only draw back I can think of is I believe that brand is considered as chemical nutes and most organic growers will tell you any chemical nutrient is bad.
Ya i know it is a chemical fertlizer. Im ok with that fact because i had been stuck with MG so I am sure GH is still somehow better then MG. If that's the only downside then I can live with it. I just never saw anything bad about GH other then its a chemy. Seems to me its sturdy stuff from all ive read about it. Just wasn't sure if it was too good to be true.
Awesome I'm excited to give some real nutes a go. Don't get me wrong i used MG with success but it was really hard to balance on the knife's edge like that. I always worried about nute burn because it didn't take alot to get to that point with MG. Plus i don't really want to support that company anymore after what i read recently about them.
Nah it's good for a chem fert and yes better then MG because it was designed for marijuana. Now if it makes any outrageous claims on how well your plants will grow, take that with a grain of salt and recognize it as just typical promotion hype to attract customers. I'm not sure if GH is guilty of that but I know lots of products found in hydro shops make some amazing claims. The reality is that there are so many factors involved in how well a plant does that no one product can make the claim that it will guarantee amazing results. Just that they can provide reliable targeted nutrition for the plant.
Alas, apparently what you heard is accurate, a google search turned this up.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/busine...-miracle-gro-subsidiary-buys-sebastopol-based
Anything now on the market most likely is still true GH but going forward people will need to be cautious about continued use.
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larry badiner
I've used flora nova in hydro, it's pH buffered so I just poured some in the rez, don't remember if I ran into. Calmag problems
ChasingGreen
Member
I use FlordaDuo, their updated line from the 3 part that makes it a 2 part. I personally love it, but I've never tried the 3 part after hearing how messy it is. You get a good A/B mix that you can balance your nutes however you want by adding more or less of one in the ratio. It does seem to need a booster in flower to get those huge mega buds, but that's to be expected. I also tried the 1 part DynaGrow and was not that impressed and there were always solids forming in that stuff, thus the ratio of nutrients you were getting would be off.
+1 for GH.
+1 for GH.
ChasingGreen
Member
Well it's not necessary for the plants to grow and be successful, but I tested the same strain (clones) with and without the booster and it did in fact increase the yields. It actually was so successful that the first time I got some bud rot and had to increase the airflow due to the larger colas I wasn't used to. I also learned how to get tighter nodes each time, don't get me wrong. I use Botanicare Hydroplex. It's pretty good! I basically go off the GH bottle (once the plant is 3 weeks into veg and forward), reducing whatever they say by half, and for the booster I reduce even more sometimes. The best way to not burn your girls is to grow the same strain more than once. What I have been doing is finding the max (keeping detailed logs is ESSENTIAL here) ppm that the plant can handle before it shows tip burn, then I can keep it right under that sweet spot for future grows. When in doubt, underfeed. It's really easy to add nutes to res system, really a pain in the ass to flush.
Flowers use mainly phosphorous (the P in NPK) so it has a higher value meant to give the flowers plenty of phosphorous during the peak of flowering with the hopes of producing bigger flowers. Most well established fertilizer brands for cannabis cultivation have a veg formula, a flower formula and a bloom boost formula. At it's simplest you do need a good veg fert and a good bloom fert the boost is optional in the sense that some feel it costs too much for the returns it gives compared to not using it. Everything beyond that is optional. One good option is a product called Liquid Karma which is an extract made mainly from kelp and seaweed. It does in fact seem to promote good health and good growth but at an average of around $20 per quart it's pretty expensive. Another popular additive is black strap molasses. There are products out there also claiming to provide carbs to your plants that are more or less the same thing. It doesn't so much do anything for the plants as much as it does for the beneficial microbes that can be encouraged in soil. If you're not really doing anything to encourage beneficial microbes then things like molasses or other carbs aren't going to do your plant much good. The only other additive one should need to consider is something that provides micro nutrients most fertilizers focus on the Macro nutrients of NPK but there are also micro nutrients a plant needs for optimal health such as calcium, magnesium, iron, zinc and several others. Some companies include micronutrients in their formulas and some don't so with some you need to supplement.
Well the stuff i got has the floragrow floramicro and florabloom so doesnt that mean id be set? Sorry im still researching the stuff completely as it should be here today. Gotta wrap my head around all of the info im getting. Maybe you guys can explain to me why alot of people who use GH flora series only use the micro and bloom. I mean I read it was because micro had enough nitrogen in it so they didn't really need to use the floragrow. I figured the micro would be just as it seems it would be micro nutrients however the fact it apparently has enough nitrogen in it that people dont use the grow makes me think maybe it isn't micro nutes after all. If anyone can be kind enough to explain that to me i would be very grateful.
St. Phatty
Active member
Yes.
Though there will always be the temptation to add more.
I used to add McLellan's Purple Orchid food, which was something like 0-26-10, AFTER mixing up the GH nutes.
And the plants loved it.
I have about 30 1 gallon GH nute bottles. Switched to dirt in 2008, but the bottles sure come in handy. Quart GH bottles come in handy too.
The grow formula has no calcium in it but the micro has a good amount, the micro also has no P and very little K. Id use all 3 grow, bloom and micro. Check out https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=177807 for the complete breakdown of your nutes and watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BleWpBYweHE to better understand nutrients.
MickFoster
Active member
It's the Lucas Formula. Only requires Micro and Bloom. lucasformula.com will explain it to you.
You can do a complete grow with just those three bottles but, myself, I would add some P/K or Massive to the bloom phase. If you wish to stay more natural, get some kelp or kelp meal. You can make a kelp meal tea that will liven them up early and mid flower.
From my own experience, don't overdo the kelp, I had to start feeding some additional nitrogen in flower because about three days later I noticed some early yellowing.
From my own experience, don't overdo the kelp, I had to start feeding some additional nitrogen in flower because about three days later I noticed some early yellowing.
