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nuggetshiner

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Well I thought I should get this started before Karma figures that NS took
his beans and absconded to an unknown location. I don't write much of
anything down in my garden and I have a crappy memory so that makes
for fun and confusion when I'm trying to figure it all out later. :)
A little info about how their being grown.

Veg - 1000w mh - everything is done under it. Rooms about 7'x7'.
Flower - 2 1000w hps and one 1000w mh between them. Room - 8'x12'

Nutes - Pure Blend Pro / Cal-mag plus / Liquid Karma / Bat guano
(quit using any carbs, better plants, less bugs)

Soil - Potting soil from local nursery with beneficial bacteria amended with
about 25% perlite and couple cups of worm castings. Works great for me.
I don't ask too much from my soil, just good drainage and a nice
foundation for the roots. I'll give'em whatever else they need in the
waterings.

The Package
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Germination~
Got'em on 6/09/09 and started germination on 6/11.
After 48 hrs.

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After the first 7 popped it was a bit slow going after that. The 8th was
put into soil about 3 days after that. The 9th opened and had a small
tail and I planted it with the 10th bean. Not sure what happened to the
9th, just never got going. I feel I should have let the tail get a little
longer. I have better success when the tails are a 1/4" or longer so I'll
take blame on that one. The 10th just never joined the test. I'm gonna
give them a...

Germination Rate of 90%

I really believe the 9th one was gardener error, should of had that one. :)
The remaining 8 seem very happy...

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I'll be updating this thread weekly as per the rules. :)
The seedlings are headed to one gallon pots this week. Oh I almost forgot
that one of the plants is a tri-foliate or whorled phylotaxy?, it just looks
like a triple header to me. It's the leeeetlest one above. She may take off
but not showing the vigor of the others. The pics below are from diff times.
And the very last one is the tri-foliate. If thats not what it is somebody
correct me. :noway:

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Love the jack herer/cindy type serations in the leaves. I'd like to thank
Karma for giving me the opportunity to grow these.
More soon, NS
 

BENJI

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Looking very nice NS bro love your photography..!!
 
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Karma Genetics

Oh yeah Nuggetshiner kicking in. Ha ha even pic's og the youngones are just so nie with your cam skill\s this thread can only become a eyecandy nuggetshiner one.

Good luck with your Sweetjack run.
 
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Peat

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That looks like a trifoliate to me. :yes:
Just not like one I've ever seen. :chin:
The handful of times I've come across 'em, the leaves were all the same size, and spaced at nearly perfect 45 degree angles ... Creating a triangle effect thingy. :crazy:

Alright. That's my :2cents:
I'll be taking a seat for the show now. :lurk:
 

nuggetshiner

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Shaunmulok, kk, iw, and benji, thanks. :)

Hey Karma, thanks, I'll do my best. I have a question for you already. :) Do you have any way you'd like to
see these grown. Their about 12 to 14 inches tall after re-pot. They are growing pretty fast and I'd put
them into flower in about a week or two unless I top. If I top once I usually like to top twice to get the
branches evened out and that would add 4 to 6 wks veg. Any preferences?

Peat - thanks for stopping in. That was a pretty crappy pic of the trifo. It's a pretty normal mutant if mutants
can be normal. :) Took some more pics of it below. (4th & 5th pics) I was wondering if trifo's always keep
their stems together on the stalk or do they start staggering like duals?

Here's the gang of 8 in the re-pot staging area. Their on deck. lol
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After move to one gallon pots...

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Here's a top view. The new leaves are just really beautiful. Love the shape.

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Here's a few better shots of the trifo... she was bending to the light and looked strange in the last pics.

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This edit was made within the thread because my "preview and post" buttons don't work in "go advanced", strange.
I'll pm skip and see whats goin on. Thought I'd be able to edit when I set it up like this. Oh, thats another thing, I'm
not trying to be unfriendly I just would like peeps to be able to find the important stuff about the grow when they
come in here - thus the format. :) I'll be going to the end of the thread first for any new posts but all of my updates
will here at the first.
Keep it green & clean, lol, ns
 
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nuggetshiner

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7-24-09
Hey folks, looks I missed last week, don't know where it went, lol. The SJ's are cruising
right along. They're between 22 and 27 inches tall so they've been growing almost
an inch a day. Were down to four girlz and a tri-foliate (TF) who doesn't know what it is.
Couple days ago I had determined 1 male and 1 female but checked yesterday and
a lot had changed. All were showing except TF. I'm happy to get the four girlz and have
my fingers crossed for the TF. She's in a different level as far as growth. She's nine
inches tall... but she looks like she's about to explode with growth, lol.

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The guys have moved into 12/12 in an area where they don't get a lot of light but I can let'em
go for another week or two for a positive confirmation on their sex. Then bin'em.

This is the shortest of the confirmed girlz... But the branchiest.

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A little group shot...

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And now for the big shock...

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The survivors of the sexing wars got chopped. With their quick growth and their height when they showed I
decided to top. They lost anywhere from six to eight inches and were left with 6 to 8 branches. I might cut the
top two branches back again to two nodes to make four branches out of the top. Haven't decided yet. I have
a spot in bloom coming up for four plants in about two weeks and I'd like to relace them with these so most
likely they'll get about two weeks to recover then into 5 gal pots and into bloom. :)
The TF is at the far right above

Take care, keep it green & clean - NS
 
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nuggetshiner

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7-31-09 Weekly Update...

Hi all! The girlz have taken to the topping very well. There were signs of acceleratred
growth on the branches the next day and I think were looking at about 10 days
before they head to bloom. Just a short pictorial update to show the new branch
growth over the last week. Oh yeah, about three days ago they were doing so well
I pinched the top branches back to two bud sites so I'll have four branches out of
the top and it gives side branches more time to catch up. :)

First we have a group shot... with the tri-fo on the right...

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Then some top shots...

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There they are in all their glory after being chopped, pinched and prodded.
And last but not least we have...

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Stay tuned next week...
Same bat time...
Same bat channel...
NS
 
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nuggetshiner

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August 7, 2009
Weekly Update: :) Were at 8 weeks and one day since I put the beans in paper towels.
Growth has been vigorous since last we met. lol. With one thats especially vigorous and
one thats a little slower. Just a couple pics to document growth this week then later
tonite they'll be tranfered to 5 gal. pots and moved into bloom. :)

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3 of the girls will have between 6 to 8 main branches and the fourth (below, left) will have two. I'd top her again but
I want them all to go in together. It's better for plant morale, you know, like joining the army with your buddy. lol
Please only take the serious stuff I write seriously... seriously! lol

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And the tri-foliate. Lots of places to check for sex, almost a third more. Been 95% convinced its a boy for
most of the week until today. Still undeceided. Doesn't matter how many spots to show sex it has if it won't
cooperate. lol.

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Please don't think of SEX

Four Spots waiting for them in bloom only thing they're waiting on is me so I better get to my hobby
that sometimes seems like a job.
bbs, ns
 
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nuggetshiner

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8-22-2009

Hey all! Sorry about no update last week. Two things happened. I forgot that I
had my kids for two weeks straight and the day they were coming microsoft
upgraded IE to version 8 and they loaded Vista SP1 or 2, can't remember on
auto updates... Well it certainly was a downgrade if you ask me. As soon as
IE loaded it would immediatly shut down. Hard to fix a web prob when you
can't get on the web. :) IE 8 gone and not coming back for awhile. :) All running
like it was before the wonderful upgrade.

These pics were taken at 13 days flower two days ago. They've really started
to fill out their pots and take off vertically. Needed to drop the pots about 12"
off the shelf I had them on so I was able to shoot each one seperately. Prob
the last shots of 'em like this until end of flower, I don't like to move them
around too much in flower.

The girlz were between 21 to 27 inches when they went in. They're now between
33 and 39 inches with SJ#1 the tallest at 39 inches and SJ#4 shortest at 33 inches.
Growing a little less than an inch a day. Nice thick, strong stems.

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And the tri-fo. Forgot about her and she went into bloom 2 days behind her sis's. I'm 99% convinced
she's a she. Haven't actually seen a pistil after 10 days in flower but they don't look like male growth.
Gonna go ahead and transfer her to a 5 gal. pot.

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And one last shot for this week showing how well the SJ took to the second topping...

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Next week...
Same bat time, Same bat channel, unless something unexpected rears its untimely head.
NS
 
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nuggetshiner

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8-29-2009

Well here we are at 3 weeks bloom. We'll start with the tri-foliate since
I usually leave her till last. Was checking her top for pistils and
thinking, "this plants never gonna show!", when I looked down at her
lower branches and low and behold there were pistils all over. I just
usually check the top and guess I don't look down, lol. Prob been
showing for 3 or 4 weeks. What a stoner. Well, I'm pretty happy. This
is a crazy plant putting three branches out about every inch of stalk.
The longer it went and prettier it got the sadder I'd a been if it went male. :)

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They're growing at a pretty good clip. They are showing signs of slowing coming
into the fourth week. I didn't measure but the tallest is prob around 50 inches
from soil. Here's some baby buds pics of the other girlz at three weeks.

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In a couple weeks things should really start getting interesting. :)
Back next week with 5 girls and their swelling buds, lol... NS
 
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9-11-2009 A Day that Shall Live in Infamy....

Well here we are at 5 weeks bloom. All the stretch has ended and the plants stand
between 4.5 to 6 ft tall from the floor. The aroma from them varies but they all
have a sweet clean crisp smell, very nice. Some shots this week of all the girls
except the tri-fo. I just forgot her, she's only about 2 feet tall, lol.

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The growth pattern of these reminds me of kali mist or Johnny Blaze. Fast growing tall plants.

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Now we getta kik back and watch'em get phat.
Back in 7 to 10 days, lol, NS
 
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nuggetshiner

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10-12-2009

Hey folks! Sorry I haven't been around but after the last update this grow started throwing me a few curve balls.
I was/am totally mystified and perplexed by what transpired. Two of the plants in the post above started
finishing immediately with the smaller of the two done by six weeks and the second was done at seven weeks.
They were both in the middle of a fert regime so I cut that and started giving them water. I let both go to almost
eight weeks to hopefully get some of the ferts out of them. With a 10 to 14 week window on these I was caught
quite by surprise. The third girl finished at 8 weeks and the last one went to nine so with the phenos I had it was
a 6 to 9 week bloom. Here's a few pics of the first girl at chop... Done at six but left to 8 weeks.

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She grew alot of smaller stinky buds. They have a very powerful aroma thats quite complex. All the phenos smelled pretty much the same
although there structures were different. It's a mix of spice, floral, dank, very strong flavor. :) This one would be considered a medium to
low yielder along with the other pheno that had this structure. The only diff between them is one reached about 65 inches and the other
grew to about 74 inches. About triple stretch on these two.

Pheno #2 This plant was to difficult to get out so I stuck the 5 largest branches in a pot of soil.

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Back tomorrow with info on the other two and the tri-fo. ns
 
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Here's SJ #3. She went to eight weeks.

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This is the grl that got topped once. Not as fast as the other grlz.

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SweetJack #4. This one went the longest, pushed it to almost 10 weeks.
It had been done on top long enough it was starting to grow again
while I was waiting for the bottom. :)

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Well last and least we have the tri-foliate. This isn't one you'll be
looking for. She never got very big after transplant, didn't make
much use of that 5 gal. of dirt. Was done at about 7 weeks. Caught
me by surprise like the others and I pushed her to about nine
weeks but she never filled out much. :(

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As you can see from the pic below there wasn't much bud production on this one.
Stripped the rest of the leaves off her and chucked her in the kief pile.

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Smoke reports on the way.
 
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