Novice grow, veteran mentored

[sahdgrower]

close ups

close ups

Here is a close up shot of what I am thinking I am supposed to do with the growing tips in the scrog.



If you can see it, I am trying to make each tip go into a different square. But as soon as they grow into those squares I am not sure how long I let them go before I move them again.

 

[Snype]

The SCROG should be placed where you would like the top of the canopy to be, minus a few inches to account for some over growth. I flip before my plants even reach the SCROG. If the SCROG is placed in the right place below the light then you are all set, if you need it higher then now is the time. If you grew your plants too big, you can tie them down to the SCROG.

 

[sahdgrower]

Gettin outa control

Gettin outa control

Well I think the method I am attempting and your method (Snype) of scrogging are kinda different. May be a newbie mistake on my part but I am trying to train all branches under the screen until it is filled then let them grow up. I am about to flip and I think I did it 3 or 6 days too late. The screen looks to me to be approximately 40% full but really hard to judge without counting tops. I really don't expect to fill every hole. We will see. Perfect for learning. I am definitely going to flip tonight and here are some pictures. I will continue to tuck branches under screen for a week or until screen is full whichever comes first.


I am using this method because that is what I decided on when I did my research for this grow. No better reason than that.... Well I also only have one HID light and thus a super controlled canopy seemed optimal to me. I am sure I will learn as I go.

For all my research after starting this grow I have decided to continue with RDWC, attempt a NFT system and grow vertical. Unfortunately my Gavita Light cannot be used vertically.

 

[OldSchoolGreen]

Still looks great, and you've got a good attitude. Always learning as you grow. If it doesn't work out as you had it pictured in your head the first time then I'm sure you will nail it next time you try.

I did a Sour Bubble DWC SCROG with 4 plants and timed it awfully. Still got a decent yield (A heavier yielding strain with large colas would've been better). Looks to me that you're gonna have a nice looking canopy and some great support for your ladies.

-Old School

 

[sahdgrower]

Flippin out

Flippin out

Shit! These girls are growing like crazy! I flipped yesterday and I think I waited too long.

So this morning I moved the scrog screen up 5" and there is a lot more breathing room now. I still have the other 2 females under my T5. I couldn't kill em. They are real nice plants too just slightly inferior to the 4 in the RDWC. So I am thinking I may just go ahead and get another 600w HPS. I wanna get this one bare bulb as my future growing I will be going vertical.

So... I am not exactly sure how to configure my room with the new vertical bulb and the 2 additional plants. The room is 8x8x7 and the canopy of my scrog is 3x4. You can see in the picture the canopy is a little too big for the light (also I need to raise the light a couple inches tonight). Any suggestions?

 

[sahdgrower]

BTW I am all proud of myself for my first indoor grow is looking hot shit! BUT knocking on wood because I have read a lot of posts where people are rocking it out up to this point and then shit starts going down. That and I have 2 1/2 jars of flarf from last years outdoor crop to sustain me until I bring this stuff in. I am really eager for this crop to succeed.

 

[Snype]

It's never over until it's over. I've seen perfectly healthy RDWC plants deep in flower be completely dead within a day or 2 once root pathogens take hold. It's really no joke. Pythium is in your water and you can't really avoid it. Pythium will start to take over your plants once enough stress happens. Without stress pythium can't seem to take hold of your plants. RDWC / DWC has the most amazing growth rates but with no buffer whatsoever. That's the downside. When things go wrong, they go very wrong. Like I said I used to lose around 50% of crops but since my use of Chlorine and Air Pumps rated at my suggested rates, I haven't lost a crop yet. It's pretty crazy considering how many crops I had to lose to figure it all out.

 

[sahdgrower]

VERT!

VERT!

I just couldn't throw out my last 2 female plants so I got a nuther bulb and am runnin it vert. I decided on a horseshoe shaped screen pressed up against my scrog. So I will train the plants away from the scrog as much as they grow during the stretch and the horizontal scrog will catch some of the extra light.

 

[Ttystikk]

It's never over until it's over. I've seen perfectly healthy RDWC plants deep in flower be completely dead within a day or 2 once root pathogens take hold. It's really no joke. Pythium is in your water and you can't really avoid it. Pythium will start to take over your plants once enough stress happens. Without stress pythium can't seem to take hold of your plants. RDWC / DWC has the most amazing growth rates but with no buffer whatsoever. That's the downside. When things go wrong, they go very wrong. Like I said I used to lose around 50% of crops but since my use of Chlorine and Air Pumps rated at my suggested rates, I haven't lost a crop yet. It's pretty crazy considering how many crops I had to lose to figure it all out.

I've had some bad RDWC crops in the past, too, but there was never any mystery as to why. Once I got my chiller my problems ceased. I got OGBiowar and things improved. Currently, I'm counter-attacking an infestation of root aphids that have apparently been established awhile and my girls aren't skipping a beat.

I've heard of the chlorine regimen and it strikes me as rather unhealthy, but I'm not gonna judge.

There are other ways, as the aquaponics guys rave about growth rates, flavor, etc- and run SHIT through their system while keeping temps in the 70s! This is something I need to try, lol

 

[Ttystikk]

I just couldn't throw out my last 2 female plants so I got a nuther bulb and am runnin it vert. I decided on a horseshoe shaped screen pressed up against my scrog. So I will train the plants away from the scrog as much as they grow during the stretch and the horizontal scrog will catch some of the extra light.

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Hey there, nice grow for a self described indoor noob- you're gonna make the rest of us look bad.

 

[sahdgrower]

I've had some bad RDWC crops in the past, too, but there was never any mystery as to why. Once I got my chiller my problems ceased. I got OGBiowar and things improved. Currently, I'm counter-attacking an infestation of root aphids that have apparently been established awhile and my girls aren't skipping a beat.

I've heard of the chlorine regimen and it strikes me as rather unhealthy, but I'm not gonna judge.

There are other ways, as the aquaponics guys rave about growth rates, flavor, etc- and run SHIT through their system while keeping temps in the 70s! This is something I need to try, lol

Well as an organic vegetable gardener and a guy who likes the idea of self reliance I am seriously interested in aquaponics. If I could run the aquaponics and have my pot growing out of it would be off the hook! I am determined to try this but I know I should get at least a dozen or so grows under my belt before I try growing them in fish tanks!

Since I have been researching air in RDWC and understand the physics of turbulence causing the most significant introduction of dissolved oxygen into the water I have been envisioning/fantasizing of a DWC in a hot tub with absolute fucking trees growing out of it. It will be my holy grail!

 

[sahdgrower]

Flowering Week2

Flowering Week2

Starting week 2 of flowering yesterday. Plants are doing very well. Not sure about my scrog technique though. Any advice welcome. I am not sure if I should continue to tuck the branches under the screen or just let them go at this point. What do you guys think?



As you can see the canopy is pretty even and about 8" above the screen. I just tucked everything 2 or 3 days ago and it is already getting out of control. If I don't tuck tonight I may lose the chance.

 

[Mister_D]

Scrog isn't my specialty, but I'd keep tucking until stretch has ended.

 

[sahdgrower]

Day 15 12/12

Day 15 12/12

Update. I think the plants got away from me a little bit on the stretch. Inexperience. Also I think this strain grows kinda leggy. Gonna get some new seeds for my next go around. Definitely going to switch to all vertical on my next go as well. I need to modify my Gavita to run vertically. I haven't pulled it down to look at it close yet but it seems quite doable. Ok pics.



Starting to clear out the undercanopy as I think/hope the stretch is over. Not really sure how to know. Guess I will go study up on that. Will be adding koolbloom powder into my regimen in another week or so. Cruising along I guess. I am kinda concerned about a low yield looking at my canopy. What do you guys think?

 

[sahdgrower]

Got some Grandaddy Purp and some Larry OG seeds. Gonna pop em tonight. Add some variety to my show.

 

[OldSchoolGreen]

Why aren't you feeling so great about your canopy? Seems pretty even..
Grandaddy Purp and Larry OG ? Sounds promising!

-Old School

 

[sahdgrower]

Well I had envisioned more tops packed closer to the screen. It just couldn't be done the way I was doing it. Must have made some kind of mistakes along the way. Not too worried though because I can't do horizontal scrog again. My back refuses.

 

[sahdgrower]

day 21 12/12

day 21 12/12

Three weeks down and buds abound. Plants stretched more than I thought they would. I have to attach my light directly to the ceiling because I ran outa space on the ratchet straps. Light is about 10" from the top of the canopy right now. Have about 7 more inches of space I can raise the light. The vertical plants are also spreading across the screen nicely. I must confess I am worried I am gonna get a ton of small buds. I tend to worry a lot about shit I can't control though, it's a bad habit. Part of why I smoke pot . Ok pics.

 

[sahdgrower]

Sorry pics on that last post kinda suck. See if I can do better. Here are a couple of my veg plants. Half in DWC and half in Hempy Buckets. Also have my seeds of Larry OG and GDP in the rockwool, eagerly awaiting their arrival.

 

[OldSchoolGreen]

Lookin good! I hear you about worrying. I do that all the time. Larry OG is so nice, excited for you. Glad to hear you were able to deal with the stretch! You notice the DWC plants being more vigorous?

-Old School