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Bmac1

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Im at a real crossroad in life at the moment and I have to admit, its a lot to carry and lately I feel I am breaking more than carrying the load.

Ive found myself in a couple deep depressions in my 35 years. Once at 14 when my family was uprooted and moved to the other side of the country. Thats a tough age to go through something like that. You are just starting to forge real relationships and then having to completely start over. I didnt leave my room for much for about 6 months. On the upside, I got pretty decent at playing guitar.

As I started meeting new people at school etc, it started to pass and I definitely look at moving as a great thing now.

After a couple dead end jobs, I found myself back in school. Wasnt really sure what to take but everyone was saying that IT was where it was at so I took an IT course for 14 months. Right out of school, I landed a pretty great first job as a field tech. Problem was, it meant moving again, to a different province.

All was good and fine for a couple years, was great making more money than I ever had at that point. It wasn't huge money by any means ( about 50-60K) but it was more than I ever made and I enjoyed what I did for the most part so it was a win win. Being on the road, dealing with and helping people. Same job but a little different every day. I always said that I never wanted to be chained to a desk.

It was so good that I thought I could do it forever. Keep in mind that it was specific work I did, for one type of company. For whatever reason, at the age of 35, I thought I could see myself retiring here. Then after a few years away, friendships and family seeming to drift further apart each day. Measly 1-2% raises once a year and all of a sudden, there was trouble in paradise. The depression was coming back.

It was causing issues at home with the girlfriend too who is a great girl, quit her job and moved to be with me and would have my back no matter what. Pretty soon, all I could think about was getting us back home.

At this point it was all I could do to keep up appearances and keep my job but this is where I should have started being more pro active with making myself more valuable to future employers.

I was "IT" but for propitiatory software on basic Windows boxes. So I learned a lot about my job but didnt pursue certifications, courses, further education etc.

After 6 years away for the job, my division was sold to a big corp with a bad rep. I Was blinded by this further as when the transaction went through, it created an opening back home for my position. I started barking up the tree hard and I ended up getting transferred back home. Boom! So glad to be home the depression has cleared again and things are looking up.

I knew still that my future wasnt with the company and I should be looking. Problem is that they pay me more than anything else I see is offering to someone without certs. Sure I have a fair bit of experience its tough to make that first good impression when the resume is void of these things.

Then is when shit really started to hit the fan. I was slowly being demoted back to strictly helpdesk duties, chained to the desk and then got hit with a 10% pay cut. All the while, everything I liked about my job was slowly being stripped away.

Then my long time girlfriend gets diagnosed with cervical cancer. Fucking devastated! She will be ok but at the cost of a hysterectomy. We dont have kids. Just never felt the timing was right but we always wanted them together. That all becomes second fiddle to her health but a huge blow nonetheless.

Three weeks later my mother gets diagnosed with stage 4 terminal lung cancer that had already spread to the liver and bones. They say that without chemo and radiation she will be dead in 3-5 months or 1 year or so with treatment. She took the treatment and was gone in 6 months. I Think the chemo did more damage than the cancer ever did.

During this whole time, I am having a very hard time holding it together. The two most important women in my life diagnosed with cancer in the same month. I missed a lot of work but had a very understanding boss at the time who knew what I was going through.

Over the course of this, I also have lost my best friend and brother to a bunch of skids and a pile of nose candy and that whole life style. This has been a hard blow to take as well because we were so fucking close.

I ended up taking the summer off on stress leave, did some counseling and have been taking good care of myself as far as exercising and eating good to try and manage stress levels. Under the advice of the counselor, trying to rebuild my reward system and making sure I am recharging my batteries to better deal with lifes stresses.

I had also been actively looking for new work over the summer but to no avail as of yet. Now I am back to work and if the stress dial was on 11 when I went on stress leave, it got down to 4 while off but is now back at 9-10 already. I am being snappy and angry and feeling down and depressed. Its causing issues with the girlfriend again and she is also dealing with all this as well as being the one who actually had cancer.

I feel fucking horrible and things need to change. I need to get out of this job but I took a step back and realized that I am just chasing a paycheck. I dont think any number will make me happy if I dont love the job.

They say that if you can find a way to get paid to do what you are passionate about, you will never "work" a day in your life. I am passionate about growing weed, helping people and fishing. Just the thought of maybe making a living growing, and maybe being a fishing guide on the weekends, puts a huge smile on my face. Talk about the gravy train. Its just the whole Law thing that is a big hurdle.

I would love to make a living with a licensed producer. trouble is that I have never traveled in those "circles" and dont have large scale experience or any formal training in horticulture etc.

I am torn between looking for another job just to get out from under the current one but I cant help but think I will just find myself in the same boat in a couple years, hating what I am doing. Or going back to school to literally take a shot at making a dream come true. I am looking at a Bachelor of Science degree program in Horticulture with a focus on production. Hopefully that would be a good step toward becoming a head grower and make a good living.

Of course theres always the fuck the law option but to each their own.

I just wish that sometimes the path was a bit clearer.

Im sorry for the long read but the rant is kind of therapy in itself I guess.

Cheers!
 

dansbuds

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I hear ya , i went through basicly the same thing with jobs . cancer has effected family & friends , but luckily not as close as it has you . i quit my job with the wifes OK to stay home & grow weed (illegal state ) & do things for work that i enjoy , instead of working for a company that doesn't even know your name . its been 3 years now & the wife says that she hasn't seen me smile or be this happy in ALOT of years !!! I feel it too & it feels great ! i work when i want doing what i want , i go fishing when i want , etc .....
i jokingly tell me freinds that i'm the house wife now ! the wife took a job doing what she loves to do (being with young children ) & i have a job that i can't tell anybody about ..... except here , but its something i enjoy doing .

do it man !!! drop the stresses & do what you want to do !!!
 

Bmac1

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Lol. But on a serious note, thanks Dan, it is nice to hear its working for you and you are happy. That is all I truly want is happiness and I dont think it will ever come at a specific price. I hear stories of people making a living doing what they love to do and I figure, why cant I be one of them? Ive never felt "happy" doing a job minus the first couple years with this company. The only things that have held my passion over the years are my woman, growing and fishing.

I have the old angel on one shoulder telling me to suck it up, everyone hates their job, just keep plugging the corporate machine.

Then the dude on the other shoulder is screaming to take a leap of faith and at least try to make it work.

The problem is fear and common sense and all that, lol. I tend to over analyze things and end up talking myself out of things I think.
 

dansbuds

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why not some type of compromise ? like keep a job , but do something you enjoy doing . even if it means a career change & supplement the income with the garden . kinda the best of both worlds .
try working with your hands , get into the construction bussiness & learn a trade . working with your hands can be a rewarding experience . you get to see a finish product & say .... i built that , ain't it cool ? lol
 

Lapides

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I absolutely refuse to get a real job. Just the thought of it puts me in a bad mood. Ugh.
 

Bmac1

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Oh I have been tempted by the idea Dan. Get a Part timer or two at tackle shops and supplement. Or going for a trade that could transfer to the medical industry too. Seeing that whole finished product idea has a lot of merit to it I think. It really does mean a lot. I have lost all meaning to what I do. I dont know if its just a resentment for the company or for the work itself.
 

stoned-trout

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ha ha ..in the real world you need atleast 2 major job skills ..one that's in demand and 1 ya love,,,its hard to have both in one... I been lucky I have had several in my fields.....welder,steel worker,pre fabricator,cert mechanic,lots of horticulture exp and a few more....I can always get work....I went back to school at 35 just to learn new shit and get more certs...keep learning ..knowledge is power BTW I worked and did night/ Saturday school same time....I got lucky the place I went cuyamaca colledge el cajon ca had both a kickass horticulture program and automotive program...I found it fun and contributed to their original webpage in the horticulture area...hard to pay the bills in that field unless your da man,,,, IMHO
 

Bmac1

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Another day of soul sucking at the corporate soul sucking machine. Its gotten to the point where a piece of me dies every time I go there. The biggest thing that has stuck with me over the last year is how short and precious life is. It can be gone in an instant so there is no point in being unhappy. Yet, I feel this undying obligation to have a "job" and do as society would dictate. I guess I have been programmed to think that way over the years.

Like I said earlier on, I wish the path was a little clearer sometimes. Ive come further than anyone else in my family but Im stuck at where do I go from here? Being the only one with a high school diploma let alone the technical school, the bar wasnt set all that high. To me, I can see ive done better but its still not good enough for me and I cant accept that this is as good as it gets. I just dont know what the next step is and dont want to find myself hitting the reset button every 10 years because Im not happy.

Ive just been so emotionally and mentally broken down over the past year that I am having trouble seeing light at the end of the tunnel. I feel stuck and its hindering me from having any clarity on what to do next. Quit and grow? Keep looking for another job to get out and start to take cert exams? Go to trade school to be a sparky or something like that and just use my hobby to supplement? I Just wish I could stop over analyzing everything and pick a path with some confidence in it being the right one.
 

stoned-trout

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life is what happens while your making plans....look for your exit strategy and work towards it.....it aint easy.......good luck in your decisions ...like rush said if you choose not to deciede you still have made a choice....go with your heart and meanwhile someone else usually has your soul lol....I have know lots of folks went to colledge for a certain career and then never got to do it and then still had colledge loans... I made great money at school..lol all the automotive equipment I could ever need and unlimited students needing affordable car repairs......yeehaw ooh ya I also sold them weed
 

Floridian

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Bmac I'm livin your life worked electrical for about 30 years,now I grow and fish on my KW.Whats the problem with growing?Are you single and living alone?I retired 12 years or so ago and man it's been one great crazy long vacation lol.My best friend and partner in crime was killed on the fucking job got nailed by high voltage.I miss having health insurance and that is all I miss.I'm 54 I'm sure a can sail on another couple decades
 

stoned-trout

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I can tell you one thing ..growing is a lot more fun when you don't have to depend on the income...and having a legit income comes in handy if your scrutinized...I have always worked too....until a few years back...I worked a low paying mechanic job for quite a while cause it was easy and I could do my own thing at work...low stress verifyable income,,,every other hour was dedicated to horticulture....now I am chillin and regrouping
 

BigBozat

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In The Same Place

In The Same Place

Sorta...

Struggled with chronic depression since a teen (but while I've had losses, nothing like you've had to endure, I think)...

Same IT career (after a 15+ year doing something else entirely), the job just sucks the soul out of me, and I feel trapped...

... slowly... dying... day... by... day.

Need to get out.
Period.

I've always told my kids (now flown the nest) to do what they love.
That's what I'm gonna do...

My plan:
My state's having a referendum to legalize recreational use (a la CO & WA) @ 2016 (if MPP & their allies here stay on track). I have some idea of what the likely regulatory regime will be... so...

1. Get licensed as caregiver & get a couple of patients (couple friends who are getting their card shortly)... state is likely limiting initial volume of rec licenses to small pool, but to incl existing dispensaries & caregivers, if they simply apply.

2. Line up backers... A buddy & I are raising our own stake (putting up the house)... another buddy, who does private equity underwriting & investment banking (small boutique), has some UHNW clients who can afford to drop a couple mill on a lark (he's got particular clients in mind & is pretty sure they'd go for it)... biz model is a private fund/REIT investing in a series of growers & others up & down the distribution chain (state is likely to limit max sf grow allowed for rec growing & ban collectives; if they follow WA's model, may not be able to vertically integrate, either) to do a series of independent turn-key 2,000sf SOA greenhouses, retail/coffeeshops, etc...

Half-done the pitch book... major hurdle is fed inc tax treatment for biz' that mfr/dist Sched 1 (acctng & corp structuring tricks help, but ideally mj would get re-scheduled... yeah, right... need a really sharp tax / corp structuring guy {which my buddy in priv eq is working on now})...

3. Line up other growers, distributors & retail/coffeeshop owners/operators... already have a couple of groups of growers (mmj & a couple MOB cash croppers who are considering going legit b4 the referendum)... in order to attract enough dosh for what I want to do (don't need a couple mill, but more than I can raise myself/friends/family) need to be able to offer investors large enough opportunity set, and if state limits ability to vert integrate, will need others to do so...

4. Get in line if/when the referendum passes & hit the ground running...

Leaving out lots o details, but that's the 40,000 foot view...
Not sure what we'll do if we can't solve the fed inc tax hurdle for the investors...

But the journey is keeping me sane in the meantime, and what I'm learning now may morph into a different opportunity to escape this rat race... The work of trying to figure how to do this, negotiating deals, etc. has been invigorating. Even if it all falls thru, I still get to do my [legal] mmj grows for a select handful of friendly patients and trust that the kinetic effort of trying to do this will open unseen doors down the road...

And since taking on this new mission, ya know what?
I don't feel like I'm dying a bit each day.
I may fall flat on my face, but I'm not gonna feel like Ned Beatty in Deliverance anymore...

Stay strong.
Life is what you make of it.
 

Bmac1

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If I could get on part time in a tackle shop and maybe part time as a fishing guide and then supplement with the garden, I think I could find happy there, lol.
 

Bmac1

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Now that I am home, I have a buzz, the anxiety and stress are down, I can think more rationally. Its now that I can see that the smart thing is likely to just man up and do the job but keep my eyes on the prize of getting out without setting myself too far back. I can keep doing this job and collecting a decent paycheck for what the work is. This way I can get a mortgage and get my own place where there is no landlord concerns. This would be conducive to me be able to supplement with my hobby.

I dont feel happy right now and there is a variety of reasons for it. Its been a tough year. Im not even sure if I am just projecting the resentment that I have for the company onto the work itself. I feel like I need to suck it up till I can make a clean brake rather than dropping and running. I know that my mental health needs to be a priority that I take seriously because not many others will but this may be an opportunity to flex some mental muscle. To do so, I just need to stop the snowball effect that starts as I pull into the lot in the morning and leads to me wanting to sit at my desk and cry as my guts turn by lunch.
 

Miraculous Meds

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Bmac, U are not alone in ur troubles. I think u need to find what makes u happy and do it. but sometimes, actually almost everytime u got to buck up and put in the time and do the bull shit, that will get u to ur dream job. Just take some time to figure out what u really want to do. then make a real plan to get there. then start doing what u got to do. If ur plan changes or life happens, cause it will, its ok cause u can feel good that u r doing what u can to make ur dreams a reality. Its the journey bro, not just the end game. Actually the end game is less satisfying than what it takes to get there.

Its about having those goals, and dreams and putting in the work to get there that u will find ur solace.

Growing is great, but it aint all peaches and cream being on the illegal side. the amount of stress and risk, and isolation, I don't know that I would recommend that for u. I wouldn't put that burden on anybody. It is a heavy load brother. But no one but u can figure out what path u r going to work towards.

Keep ur head up and start busting some ass to make it happen. If u get down come talk with ur bro's here, we will give ya some motivation.
 

Miraculous Meds

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Now that I am home, I have a buzz, the anxiety and stress are down, I can think more rationally. Its now that I can see that the smart thing is likely to just man up and do the job but keep my eyes on the prize of getting out without setting myself too far back. I can keep doing this job and collecting a decent paycheck for what the work is. This way I can get a mortgage and get my own place where there is no landlord concerns. This would be conducive to me be able to supplement with my hobby.

I dont feel happy right now and there is a variety of reasons for it. Its been a tough year. Im not even sure if I am just projecting the resentment that I have for the company onto the work itself. I feel like I need to suck it up till I can make a clean brake rather than dropping and running. I know that my mental health needs to be a priority that I take seriously because not many others will but this may be an opportunity to flex some mental muscle. To do so, I just need to stop the snowball effect that starts as I pull into the lot in the morning and leads to me wanting to sit at my desk and cry as my guts turn by lunch.

Some good thoughts here, need insurance for the lady or just a check to pay the rent, keep this gig till u have another that u r gonna go to the next day. Getting a place with ur name on it is a good plan to.
 

BigBozat

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Now that I am home, I have a buzz, the anxiety and stress are down, I can think more rationally. Its now that I can see that the smart thing is likely to just man up and do the job but keep my eyes on the prize of getting out without setting myself too far back. I can keep doing this job and collecting a decent paycheck for what the work is. This way I can get a mortgage and get my own place where there is no landlord concerns. This would be conducive to me be able to supplement with my hobby.

I dont feel happy right now and there is a variety of reasons for it. Its been a tough year. Im not even sure if I am just projecting the resentment that I have for the company onto the work itself. I feel like I need to suck it up till I can make a clean brake rather than dropping and running. I know that my mental health needs to be a priority that I take seriously because not many others will but this may be an opportunity to flex some mental muscle. To do so, I just need to stop the snowball effect that starts as I pull into the lot in the morning and leads to me wanting to sit at my desk and cry as my guts turn by lunch.

Bingo!
Stop the spiralling train of thoughts, find some calm, get some perspective. That's what medicine is for, n'est-ce pas?

"Eye on the prize" is exactly right... have a goal, make some plans, advance the ball when you can (even if its only baby steps), adjust plans as warranted... don't panic or beat yourself up if progress seems slow/stalled; wallowing is not sexy... stop and smell the roses along the way

I know the feeling... the career/job I had b4 IT was the same... pull into the parking lot, and doom descends... got to the point where one morning I just couldn't open the door to building lobby... that led to the last career change (that, and a nasty 4-year divorce & custody battle contributed, too)... Eventually learned some coping skills...

Yes, this is your opportunity to flex some mental muscle. You are already on the right path.
 

Bmac1

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So you do IT now? What kind of IT work? To start gathering certs, I need to start with the basics of A+ and Network+ but from there, Im not sure. Maybe the Cisco route?
 
I think u should go for it.

I woke up in ICU a few years back and quit what i was doing, built a small grow and financed it by working at something flexible part time until now. I live off it but barely. Got robbed for one harvest. Lost another to PM. Lost a few to various stresses aka AC went out a few times. Cops stole my shit too. I would not say its stress free.
My lawyer signs my tax returns and im 100% legal altho cops and robbers dont care about that. Its a lonely existence requiring a cover story and lots of cash. i hate jobs and havent had one in almost a decade.
I would transition into it. Perhaps nurturing some green girls would fulfill u and make the job more tolerable.
 

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