Not sick just in TROUBLE!!

[dbfr3sh]

ahhh! after my daily observation of my plants tonight i noticed something a bit unusual....on a lower budsite on one of my branches a have what sorta appears as a nannner--oh no! but after taking picture and carefully examining it i really cant tell if it is. these are feminized seeds and ive heard they due fall victum to nanners, im only in my 3rd week of flowering though and i thought, if any, wouldnt come till later. but like i said after looking at it-it doesnt appear to be a nanner. it has almost a calyx and then 3 "bannana" looking tubes coming out the top but there already open and ive seen no pollen, nor do they look like they had anything in them. i was thinking mayb a little light got in as there is a hole in my grow room for a exterior fan to push cool air in and at night when its lights out i stuff black sweatpants in the hole. i really dont think it was light interruption. im growing scrog so wont be able to do a further investigation on my whole crop but i would hate for something to go wrong. NOTE: so far this is the only one that i can see on only one plant.

now before i post the pictures if this was a nanner or lone male part should i just cut out the lowest bud off and hope no more comes back or should i try and retrieve the pollen if any comes out, and will that make it feminized because it was only one male part?

hope i havent ruined my crop so far ive been doing great with no mess ups and these ladies are destined for glory! thanks for any/all help!

 

[dbfr3sh]

going to try to get some better pictures if i can tmrw. it just doesnt make sense its growing out where a new internode should be.

tmrw is going to be a busy day of examining all the buds ah

 

[Capn]

Looks like nanners to me. hopefully they're sterile.

2-cents 4u

 

[l33t]

yep nanners

They may or may not be sterile .
Pluck em all , one by one and keep looking for more the during the next weeks

 

[ojd]

yeah def nanners

pluck em like l33t says

 

[dbfr3sh]

damn.....it has to be a light leak which wouldnt of happened that long an honestly dont think thats it but other than that their stress level should be fine and its only (to my knowledge) on one single bud. i didnt know nanners came out in singles. i thought they came out just like male flowers.

now if i do wet it and pluck it, how long would it have to be developed for me to find out if its viable or not?

 

[l33t]

if a calyx is pollinated its pistils will become dark red a sign they die back as their job is finished (they carry the pollen to the inside of the calyx where life is born (pistils should go red during the following hrs/days)

what strain is it and was it feminized seeds?

 

[dbfr3sh]

yes they were feminized snow white by nirvana. i mean the nanner its self, if i pull it out and squeeze it-should pollen come out. ive just discovered it last night and havent really noticed it before so it shouldnt be old. if its viable would it still have pollen in it right away?

 

[mdanzig]

Damn l33t, I havent seen you around for awhile.

 

[l33t]

dbfr3sh

Feminized seeds usually have hermi issues and throw bananas , many times they are sterile (esp if they are seen in the last stages of flowering) but sometimes they are not so you need to be careful.

I 've grown some feminized seeds (from Fet/SpiceBros) got 100% females and had no bananas on the plants but I wouldn't recommend to anyone to grow feminized seed cause many had problems .

As for the nanner you saw it could well have released pollen on the plants , check if pistils start to turn red and die tomorrow and during the next days. I believe its sterile to be honest but you don't want to risk it so do some checkups.


Hey mdanzig!

nice to see you man , hope you're doing well

 

[dbfr3sh]

ive used feminized seeds for a while now and ive never encountered it myself (nanners). do these nanners contain pollen in its center or in the "bannanas"? because mine are open and NOT hanging down.

just so i know the pollen if was viable in the nanner isnt feminized right? thats only if a lone one came at the end or the beginning?

 

[l33t]

I guess you were lucky before.

As for where the pollen is stored , well you can see in these pics below (not mine) that inside the male flowers (balls) that open, there are 5 bannanas that hold the pollen , these open and drop the pollen.

The orientation you see (nanners looking upwards) doesn't mean anything , your nanners are simply inside the growing calyxes and as they were developing they were squeezed/ forced to 'look upwards' is all.

 

[ibjamming]

ive used feminized seeds for a while now and ive never encountered it myself (nanners). do these nanners contain pollen in its center or in the "bannanas"? because mine are open and NOT hanging down.

just so i know the pollen if was viable in the nanner isnt feminized right? thats only if a lone one came at the end or the beginning?

That pollen is female just like the rest of the plant. There are X (female) and Y (male) chromosomes. To be "feminized" a female plant XX it made to fertilize another female XX making an XX offspring. Normally male plants pollen are half XX and half XY, therefore all seeds are half XX and half XY. Since your plant had no "Y" there can't be any males. When a female plant XX goes hermie, all she's doing is growing balls and a dick, she's still XX so all she can make are XX seeds.

Most people don't like hermie seeds unless created chemically because they don't want "surprise" seeds. Once a hermie, always a hermie. Hermies beget hermies.

 

[RockyMountainHi]

Looks like nanners to me. hopefully they're sterile.

2-cents 4u

Not if he has MY LUCK! lol


Sorry 4 u.

From past experience - picking them off just seems to piss them off and then they come back with a vengence.

They look really nice though.

 

[dbfr3sh]

some news...well i inspected everything today and there are no visible nanners anywhere else on the plant which is leading me to believe it was a small accidental light leak. since the lower bud was so small already i had no regrets to cut the bitch off. when i did i brought it under a light and pinched it in half with tweezers and squeezed them and there was no pollen, so sterile? does that mean all will be or just this one?

and would that nanner if had pollen really produce female only seeds? or just hermie offspring?

other than that we are looking great at 3 wks flowering, hopefully we dont have any more freak nanners-i hate seeds they take away from the essence of their sinsemilla.

 

[Kushy]

I have had the same thing happen to me. Im about 35 days into flower and I saw an opened nanner, so I tried to pluck it. As I was plucking I saw pollen release from it droping down onto a leave. (possibly a lower node flower) I checked a couple other plants and saw a couple balls forming but no nanners. I have no light leaks, no stress, plants look healthy as can be. My question is will that one nanner do alot of damage to all my plants? And will it only produce seeds on the part of the flower it hits? Or will the whole plant produce seeds for this one accident? These are my plants. I turned the air on super low so nothing will blow around. It only seems to happening on my HD strain. My AK's are fine.

 

[l33t]

hi Kushy,

One nanner contains lots of pollen 'grains' , each has the potencial to make a seed , each needs to physically land onto one of the many pistils of a flowering plant , each calyx has 2 pistils and all healthy calyxes on the growing buds are potential seed makers . When the pollen 'grain' touches the pistil its being transported in the inside of the calyx and there the new seed is being developed.


I cant remember the approximate number each banana has but if all the pollen from a banana lands finely spread over the plants you could get a descent amount of seeds. If there are few around then you could end up with many seeds.(in case you have the fans on its poss you get the pollen to get to all plants). If you want to pollinate a plant or few branches on purpose tho you can turn off fans and use a paint brush to selectively pollinate , a bud or two manually on of the flowering female . For fine control a bit after you spray the plants with water this will kill any unwanted 'loose' pollen grains that haven't pollinated a calyx so far and are still on the plant after our selective pollination. This is done in order to make sure that no more calyxes will be pollinated accidentally if the fans are back on.