Noob to the scene and need some help

[Raziel819]

Hi everyone

This is my first post after months of reading and gleaming knowledge from everyone here. I started my first grow several months ago, using dwc and bagseeds, just to get my feet wet. After numerous newbie mistakes I finally got 2 girls out of 3 to get close to harvest stage. Originally had 7 plants but 4 where guys which I used to make some rubbing ETOH tinctures (worked well for pain relief), some cookies (mild high but major munchies) and some coconut oil salve (using RSO recipe) it really helped clear up a red/raw patch on my GSD elbow. Here's some pic's of the the buds that's fattening up on the remaining 2 girls. View attachment 239569

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I know that it took a little long for my babies to flower, but due to a unknown timer issue my babies revegged after going into flower back in August. Like I stated before these girls are from bagseed so I don't have a clue what stain they are. But if anyone out there has a guess "Please" tell.

Thanks,
Raziel819

 

[Primalraindrop]

so what is you're question?

 

[Raziel819]

Let's Do it Again

Let's Do it Again

Messed up on the pic's lets try that again.



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Thanks,
Raziel819

 

[Primalraindrop]

if someone can tell you what strain that is by the picture. i think i might eat my shoe. is that even possible to tell? what does it smell like? what is its flavor when its done? thats prolly the time you will figure it out or not.

 

[Raziel819]

trying again wish there was a thread on how to use this

 

[Raziel819]

if someone can tell you what strain that is by the picture. i think i might eat my shoe. is that even possible to tell? what does it smell like? what is its flavor when its done? thats prolly the time you will figure it out or not.

Thanks Primal for the quick reply, as far as the smell is concern they have sort of a lemony dank smell to them but not altogether sure and since they're not finished yet I have no clue to the flavor

 

[Snype]

Thanks Primal for the quick reply, as far as the smell is concern they have sort of a lemony dank smell to them but not altogether sure and since they're not finished yet I have no clue to the flavor

If you are asking us what strain that you are growing, that is like looking at a human and telling them what country they are from just from looking and smelling them. Good luck with that one.

 

[Primalraindrop]

I have a lemon kush that smells like mr clean punched you in the nose. but. i bet there are over 100 different types of lemon hybrids. just run with it and have fun man! good luck and i hope the best for you!

 

[Raziel819]

I appreciate the replies guys I knew it was kind of a long shot trying to figure out what strain theses girls where, but how bout this question? is there any major difference in bud development between indica's and sativa's? I read that one sure way of telling is in leaf structure and in the way they grow.... short and squat vs. tall and lanky. But how about in the way buds grow, since I've seen my leaves both thin and narrow and short and fat. I'm gonna have some big fun with all the bagseeds I have until I figure out just what the heck I'm doing then I'm gonna spring for some seeds that have pedigreed behind them.

 

[fatigues]

I appreciate the replies guys I knew it was kind of a long shot trying to figure out what strain theses girls where, but how bout this question? is there any major difference in bud development between indica's and sativa's

The major difference is in leaves and not so much the bud (though there are exceptions in a few strains). As you know, broader leaves are classic indica, skinny leaves are classic sativa. Hybrids tend to broader leaves, but can exhibit both depending on the pheno. Depending on the strain, the number of leaves on the fan can also indicate a particular strain or pheno from among a known strain -- but without more that is known? Not going to happen.

You have a plant which looks like an indica or a hybrid, and another which is showing classic skinny sativa leaves. If it's a hybrid, it is possibly the same strain and just a diff pheno in the plant with the somewhat broader leaves. I suppose it is also possible you got bagseed from two different strains entirely.

If it's bagseed, we can't help you much without knowing more. Sorry. That's the price you pay when growing with bagseed.

 

[Raziel819]

The major difference is in leaves and not so much the bud (though there are exceptions in a few strains). As you know, broader leaves are classic indica, skinny leaves are classic sativa. Hybrids tend to broader leaves, but can exhibit both depending on the pheno. Depending on the strain, the number of leaves on the fan can also indicate a particular strain or pheno from among a known strain -- but without more that is known? Not going to happen.

You have a plant which looks like an indica or a hybrid, and another which is showing classic skinny sativa leaves. If it's a hybrid, it is possibly the same strain and just a diff pheno in the plant with the somewhat broader leaves. I suppose it is also possible you got bagseed from two different strains entirely.

If it's bagseed, we can't help you much without knowing more. Sorry. That's the price you pay when growing with bagseed.

thanks Fatigues good info to chew on and hone my skills. With that info I'm now leaning towards hybrid, since its showing both types. Before it revegged on me the older leaves where broad and large, as large as my hand and broader sporting 7 fingers. Now that its back into flower there are a lot of 9 finger medium broad leaves, (medium < 1.5" -- broad > 1.5"). So can a hybrid show both pheno's at the Same time?

Fortunately, the bagseed seed's that I kept where from fairly good to ohhhhwee pot that I was able to get but did a bad job of keeping them separate. But the knowledge that I get from you guys and by trial and error will take me a long way when I lay down some cash for some good seeds for my med's. With the way the country is going right now I don't want to waste money in the learning process.

 

[Raziel819]

If you are asking us what strain that you are growing, that is like looking at a human and telling them what country they are from just from looking and smelling them. Good luck with that one.

Snype,

Just wanted to thank you for putting those links in your signature, it give me more info to go through for knowledge.

Raziel819

 

[DemonPigeon]

Indica and sativa aren't really two different species, for all the deal that people make about it they're more like "races" than species, they're all capable of interbreeding, can be switched into each others habitats relatively easily in most cases.

Infact under different conditions clones from the same plant can show an "Indica" phenotype in one and a sativa in the other, things like altitude can have a massive influence. Even in basically the same environment/set-up the leaves produced by my plants and BulldogUK's looked quite different when he grew one of my clones. We only lived on other sides of the same town!

If you were talking them about visual descriptions though?
Indica:
usually shorter and bushier with more rounded, wide leaflets sometimes overlapping. Longer petioles (leaf stems) because bushy plants with short leafstems would be most likely to block quite a lot of their light out by their other stems/leaves. Lower yield more likely to form seperate nuggests

Sativa:
Tall, thin plants with long, narrow leaflets, more often to have "sharkstooth" double serrations, shorter petioles, higher yield producing, longer, thinner less built up floral formations.

 

[zarak]

can't believe no one mentioned it to you yet but in post number 3 first pic i see pollen sacks.i think you got yourself a hermie.

 

[Raziel819]

can't believe no one mentioned it to you yet but in post number 3 first pic i see pollen sacks.i think you got yourself a hermie.

Well Zarak, it took a couple more weeks after that calyx opened up like a lotus flower that it was determined that it was hermining. I harvested that girl a little over a week ago, got 2+ zips off of her when dried biggest bud was about the size of a lighter. will take some pic's after the cure.



Raziel819
Blessings

 

[Raziel819]

some one had stated earlier in this thread that its possible you can tell what you got by smell and taste. Maybe I've smoked to many cigarettes and cigars in my lifetime. But the smell sort of a lemony pepper dank smell while on the bush and after quick dried for a sample it had a taste that reminded me of a joint laced with angle dust. Don't get me wrong I'm not a freaking head or anything I haven't smoked that in over 30 years, but its the first thing that came to my mind when I sampled it... BTW the high of the sample was heady, had me actin like i was in my twenties....lol...

Raziel819
Blessings

 

[DemonPigeon]

some one had stated earlier in this thread that its possible you can tell what you got by smell and taste. Maybe I've smoked to many cigarettes and cigars in my lifetime. But the smell sort of a lemony pepper dank smell while on the bush and after quick dried for a sample it had a taste that reminded me of a joint laced with angle dust. Don't get me wrong I'm not a freaking head or anything I haven't smoked that in over 30 years, but its the first thing that came to my mind when I sampled it... BTW the high of the sample was heady, had me actin like i was in my twenties....lol...

Raziel819
Blessings

Not really... smell is very subjective and there's often tons of terpene variation between two different plants even if they're siblings.

Some clone-only "strains" are regoniseable - If you know the particular plant well, if you don't... well you can't really do it based on other people's descriptions.
The reason it works with clones at all is because they're not really "strains", strains are populations that have been selected towards certain characteristics. There's very little phenotype variance in clones (though genetic drift in theory has some influence on the long scale) so most of the variance is environmental factors as influences, but make those plants into seeds and there'll be tons of variance, much more than a seed strain has.

With plants grown from seed, especially bag seed... there's a good chance you're not working with anything that could be recognised as an exact strain, it probably isn't a particular strain at all, it could well be an accidental cross with some random male the grower didn't manage to pull.

 

[Raziel819]

Thanks DP

So the bottom line is... learn my craft using these bagseeds enjoy whatever high I might get and take that knowledge get some good seeds and have at it.

Raziel819

 

[Bubbagineer]

IMO, you should use high quality seeds, that way when your grow turns out, you have a better chance at having some high quality stash... bag seed can turn out kickass, or could give you mids.... Having said that, from the pics I would say you have decent genetics. Lookin good man!!