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No till soil with heavy yellowing new growth

simplygr33n

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I have made handmixed soil with 33%peat, 33%perlite and 33%wormcastings. Amended with kelp, crab, neem, gypsum, oyster shell flower and azomite. For anyone familiar its the coots mix. I have used the recipe for a couple grows and it always seems to do very well. Im having this yellowing going on with the newer foliage and what may look like some discoloration of the fan leaves. Seems to have some pink on the petioles and some leaves. i have about 30 plants outdoors in beds or 200 gallon pots and they all seem to be doing the same thing. I find it hard to believe that it they could be deficient this early but im only a student to nature. i was thinking possible sulfur deficiency? let me know what you think! Its slowly getting worse i feel, they were transplanted about 2 weeks ago into their final containers. only been watering with straight well water. various strains, tangie, salmon river og, amethyst. please help! peace and love

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who dat is

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I don't know if it's a deficiency OR toxicity either for that matter. A Nitrogen deficiency would start low on the plant and work its way, same for P & K. Sometimes when things are going so well and the plant is stoked it will put out new growth so fast that the new growth looks like a light green or even yellow. I'm thinking that your plants are really happy and they are taking off quickly now that they have settled into their new homes. Pay attention to the yellow/light green new growth areas and see if they don't darken up more as they come in and continue to develop. Nothing to worry about just yet, just keep your eyes peeled. :yes:
 

PdxFarms

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Think the color looks great. I do see some dark areas at the base of the new growth, running from stem through the veins which looks oddly dark, might just be the pic though.
 

simplygr33n

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sounds good to me, I will definitely keep my eyes peeled on them. I also thought maybe they were just excited to be in the final homes, Ive never seen the plants at this stage grow how they are! hopefully it is because they are super stoked to be in larger soil volumes now. i will update in a few days :)
 

simplygr33n

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Think the color looks great. I do see some dark areas at the base of the new growth, running from stem through the veins which looks oddly dark, might just be the pic though.

yeah it does look brown in the picture, its actually a pinkish/purple hue that it has. it looks pretty, it has been chilly here in the mountains lately.
 

Budley Doright

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In this environment there is almost no chance of it being sulfur....

It generally follows the pattern of iron def...

Iron def is a manufacturing issue..... meaing the defect is present as the leaf is manufactured by the plant.... the leaf tips will be darker green and the interiors lighter green as yours are...

Iron def is often a ph problem..... with the ph too high to make available iron....


My guess is that your well water isnt acidic enough and its making your soil alkaline...
 

troutman

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Oh yeah, you do know that composting will use up lots of nitrogen and other nutrients in soil right?

That's probably what is really going on now.
 
Do not listen to anybody on here telling you to put on more!

It has enough. Excessive potassium(crab and kelp) in the soil is what is causing the new growth to yellow. Not to worry, it'll fade as it grows.
 

MedResearcher

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Hit them with some mexican bat guano. Most of the cootz ingredients are slow release, you need some spring fertilizer.

Bat guano is great, will really green up a plant. Another great product is the Bio AG TM-7. If you missing any micro stuff for any reason, the TM-7 will give you incredible results.

Can also supplement via foliar feed. Hydroslate fish, and kelp at 2 ounces per gallon. If you want to get really fancy add some yucca and fulvic acid. Dark green plants will be in your future.

I have experienced that yellowing before. I have watched it get worst and worst, and I have also top dressed and supplemented then watched them go dark green.

When you spot a deficiency you have already lost a week or two. Not sure I would want to wait around and loose another week.


Just my opinion though. Many ways to skin a cat, overall looks like a good start.

Good luck on the season,
Mr^^
 

who dat is

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I crack up at the Hodge Podge of advice people open themselves up to when they post in the Infirmary :laughing:

Nice to see people posting though instead of ghosting the thread :yes:
 

simplygr33n

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things are looking much better, I believe it was weird weather not allowing the new growth to show its color. I did a compost tea and just let them ride it out a bit, thanks for everybody chiming in.
 

simplygr33n

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I crack up at the Hodge Podge of advice people open themselves up to when they post in the Infirmary :laughing:

Nice to see people posting though instead of ghosting the thread :yes:


your'e right it is kind of tough to get multiple different answers,not know who is who and make a decision based on that. i also believe it is more helpful if someone contributes to the conversation in a positive manner versus knocking myself or others for trying to help or get help, cheers.
 
The thing that tells me it's a lack of iron is the fact the new leaves are so spindly. They are to thin. Needs iron. Not a lot. That or check your runoff ph. May be too alkaline.
 

Budley Doright

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your'e right it is kind of tough to get multiple different answers,not know who is who and make a decision based on that. i also believe it is more helpful if someone contributes to the conversation in a positive manner versus knocking myself or others for trying to help or get help, cheers.

Let me call baloney on that one..... I asked you for a ph on your water....which would have indicated whether it could be iron def....

and apparently you were too busy....
 
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acridlab

on a smaller scale,, in my cloning room..i get similar growth to that, when roots run into worm casting chunks, that weren't broken up good in my promix.. maybe something to think about? maybe not.. but i did notice u run a high percentage of castings in ur mix..
n im probably wrong, but maybe theres a fluke chance of being a help? peace
 

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