nitrogen during flowering?

[tico0r]

I had my sensi star harvest 3 weeks ago. When I cut them the buds smelled strong and there were alot of trichomes. They have dried for a week and been jar curing for 2 weeks now and the trichomes are still there but the bud isn't sticky and they don't smell at all now. Smokes smooth but I just get a very mild high with no taste. I used this tea mixture of worm casting, bat guano and seagull guano full strength along with maxibloom and koolbloom by GH. Should I of not used and guano or castings during flowering? Maybe I used to much during flowering? Heres pics of the bud at 3rd day drying.

 

[Patsheba]

I am of the opinion that there is a period during cure that the THC is unobtainable.

Also, if I smoke the same plant too much, nothing. We had 2 each of 6 varieties this time, so managing those times.

It looks really good, maybe try a few days in a paper bag.

 

[Guest]

I am of the opinion that there is a period during cure that the THC is unobtainable.

Just curious as to how you came to that opinion?

 

[Guest]

How long did you let it flower? IF you cut it to early thats is what happens!

 

[Guest]

From what I can see of the trichs they look like they havent gone through any degradation whatsoever,snow white you might say.Looks way early to me too

 

[Patsheba]

Just curious as to how you came to that opinion?

Just experimentation with my own homegrown, based on toking off several plants early each harvest (I'm weak, man, I confess). It seems like there is a short time, before total cure, that all the active cannabinoids are not active (yet?).

Actually tho, I thought the reaction described is more probably caused when the THC has degraded already, but it's so fresh that should be unlikely. So, that leaves the other alternative, not finished curing.

It looks good! Hope it makes it thru!

 

[kush07]

What color were the trichs when you harvested them? The conditions you are describing sounds like a early harvest with mostly clear trichs. If that is the case you are only getting a shadow of the potential that bud could have been.

Happy Toking

 

[Bulldog]

Two questions:

How long did you flower them for?

If guano was used, it WAS a nitrogen-rich one for veg and a different, (higher in P and K) one in flower, right?

 

[Guest]

Thats a big myth that somehow curing the erb will somehow make it better or stronger,that hasnt been my experience.Actually about a week or 10 days hangin is when I like to smoke it best,when its fresh and sticky.Curing it in a glass jar for a few weeks doent make it any better to me.I'd rather have blockhead right off the plant at a week or so than after its been cured and jarred a few weeks.Glass is great if your gonna store it for awhile but I rarely do

 

[Bulldog]

I don't know about "better" meaning more potent, or not. If that's what you mean, then I agree with you there. But, I DO believe it's better in the taste department. Once all the chloryphil is broke down and other chemicals are converted to natural sugars, I find the taste way less "gree", or harsh.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Guest]

I think thats really strain dependent too,my favorite of all time is my blockhead pheno and like I said,its best for me about 10 days hangin,sooo fresh and sticky I just love BH.Other strains may taste much better after a little cure time,female seeds Ice comes to mind I just pulled a plant about a week and a half ago and man its strong but anything but tasty lol.I bet after a couple weeks it will improve immensely.Its important to wait until all the moisture has evaportaed but man theres nothing like BH fresh off the vine!

 

[TGT]

It seems when I dry my buds they usually take 10 days or longer to dry totally because of my cold basement. I also stop feeding and give just plain water for the last 10 to 12 days of bud so they are fairly light in colour when harvested. I tried jar curing for a month to compare and I didn't notice any better taste as appose to just taking it after 10 days of hanging. This might be due to the slow dry process and the chemical change that takes place probably already happened. Also, giving it just water could have contributed some to the final results.

I could see jar curing being beneficial if you can't dry your buds slowly and/or you give her high nitrogen and nutrients up until harvest. I was told by a very experienced grower if a plant stays green from the bottom to the top all the way to finish that a good cure will improve her taste dramatically. I don't know if this is true or not, but it sounded cool lol.

Strain probably plays the biggest factor. Most people that have grown Blueberry say it is much better after a good cure. I haven’t tried with my Blueberry, but would prove to be a good little experiment. Regardless, even without a cure she is the best tasting herb I have smoked to date. If a cure helps I can only imagine the results!

TGT

 

[Texas Kid]

Curing for a few weeks in the jar is not really the cure time most are talking about, months in the jars is the real cure. Some people don't even smoke bud that hasn't cured in the jars for at least 90 days of so.

Ten days hanging does not effectively get rid of the chlorphyll(sp) and other "green" plant properties at all or effectivly convert the sugars, not even close. Curing has everything to do with stabilizing the moisture of the bud and making them as dense as hell. The smell and taste really start to develope as well with even a little time in the jars.

Tex

 

[Guest]

I've had blockhead jarred for many weeks so it was literally rockhard it was so devoid of moisture,I wasnt impressed.Because I dont keep around any jarred doesnt mean my friends dont,and I'd still much prefer fresh blockhead off the vine.Believe me,there is no chlorophyll taste with this pheno.nothing but very piney strong sticky pot.I know what you mean though,I just picked a female ice maybe 10 days ago and although its strong as hell,it tastes rather rough.A few weeks or even just another week and I expect it to improve immensely,there's just something about this blockhead its delicioupsuis straight from the vine after 7-10 days(depending on temps humid of course)

 

[TGT]

I'll have to try a real cure and then see the results. Thanks for clarifying.

TGT