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Nitrogen Def. or Possible Lockout ????

Pirate

Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death !!
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Hello all. I need some help ASAP please. Photos include at end of post.

I have been growing for a while and usually am able to handle my problems ("change my own diapers") pretty well. I am having an issue with what I believe to be a nitrogen deficiency yet I can't seem to correct it and its getting worse fast. Looking at the photos it would seem to be a cut and dry diagnosis and easy fix.

Hopefully someone out there has an idea I have not tried yet.

Here is my system info as requested from the "sticky":

How long has this problem been going on?..... 10 Days

What system are you running?...... EBB and Flow

What STRAIN are you growing?..... Purple Kush (sr71 cuts) & Hashberry

What was the establishing technique? .....all clones.

What is the age of your plants? ......Hashberry is 1 year old. These are the 8th cuts from the original mother. (not 8 down the line) 8th time I cut from original Mother I grew from seed) Purple Kush age and cut # is unknown. I aquired the cuts from a cannabis club.

How tall are the plants? .......8 to 18 inches

What PHASE are the plants in?....... Vegatative

What Technique are you using?........In Coco (75% Coco & 25% Perlite) All are in 1 gallon pots. (no they were not going to stay in these pots)

What is the Water temperature? ........70*

What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy?......Roots are white and not slimy

What Nutrient's are you using? How much of each if using multiple?........GH NUTES. Just Base nutes right now. 3-2-1 grow formula. No supplements.

What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? 15 Gallon Rez. PPM Started at 650 range. When I started to see yellowing I pumped it up to 1100. Still Yellowing !! Tonight I added base nutes and PPM is at 1390. To high I believe. That when I decided to seek help thinking I might start to burn em with that PPM.

What is the pH of the "Tank"?.....PH = 5.9

Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment?..... Yes, Calibrate often.

When was your last watering? ..........6pm Tonight. Will water every 4 hours when lights on. No water when Lights Off.

What is your water temps? 68 to 71*

When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)....# days ago. Total rez drain and renute.

How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients? Usually every 10 days.

What size bulb are you using?.....400 watt MH for vegging.

What is the distance to the canopy?......24 inches, No hood, vertically hung in a 3x3 hydro hut.
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)?........Hovers around 50 to 55%

What is the canopy temperature?.......75*

What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range) Day=75 Night=68

What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 50CFM fan. Good suction.

Is the fan blowing directly at plants?.....No. Ocilates above canopy and bounces around hut. Leaves move from air flow.

Is your water HARD or SOFT? ...........??????? Comes from Tap at 80 to 90 PPM.

What water are you using? ......TAP

Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched......Not within the last month or more.

Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When?.......NONE

Are plant's infected with pest's...........NONE, I check often.


Hope I haven't left anything out. If there are any questions please ask. Like I said, I usually handle this stuff alone but I felt like 2 heads are better than one this time.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

Pirate :headbange

Purple Kush


Purple Kush #2


Purple Kush


Whole Hydro Hut: Purple Kush on Left...........Hashberry on Right. Small clones are Hashberry cuts that sat to long in a clone tray. I am not concerned with these right now since there are 50 more in another system.These little HBs are just over flow I couldn't bear to chuck.
 
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socioecologist

Brother, sorry to see that you are getting nailed by the mysterious hydrohut disorder that kills every plant that goes in. GET THOSE PLANTS OUT OF THAT HUT YESTERDAY. I had the same problem a few months back, couldn't figure it out--ran a couple searches here and found out a ton of people are having the same problem. They will die if you don't get them out. Mine popped back about 2 weeks after removing them.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=65544&highlight=hydrohut+death

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=77070&highlight=hydrohut+death
 

Pirate

Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death !!
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HOLY SHIT !!

I have been pulling my hair out trying to figure out what the freakin problem was and nothing I did would stop the decline. I tried flushing, changin g lights, less light, different nutes, plain water, Lower PPMs, Higher PPMs, You name it........I tried it. NOTHING would fix it. Every photo in those threads show the exact same issue I have been dealing with. Whats worse is that my girlfriend kept saying "its that hydro hut". I kept telling her she was stupid and that there is now way its the tent. I grew huge ass mothers for six months in another tent that I had before but had sold due to space reasons. When I moved I bought a new tent. The old one was bought in So Ca. Guess where the new one was bought. YUP !! The Bay Area !! Crazy.

I lost a whole batch of 25 new seedlings about a month ago after going into that tent. AK-47, Chronic, Master Kush. I restarted a new set of Satori, Speedqueen and Pot of Gold that were gonna go in there very soon. NOT ANYMORE.

Now I gotta figure out how to replace this thing. Crap. That threw a wrench into my plan.

Hope I can save my Purple Kushes.

Thanks for the fast Heads up.

Pirate
Off I go to kiss my girls ass and get my spankin :spank:
 
S

socioecologist

Keep that lady around--she must know her stuff. I didn't end up losing any plants, but all my moms got sick in a 4x4. Hydrohut has been really good about replacing the huts, but I've read mixed reviews on the replacements; some are still sending plants into a death spiral. I bought a SunHut to replace the Hydrohut, and have had zero problems--very happy with it. Good luck getting everything back on track (as if we didn't have enough to deal with already....)
 

Pirate

Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death !!
Veteran
(This is a duplicate update I posted on The Hydro Hut Killing plants thread:)
It was definitely the HH.


Thought I would throw ya an update.

I spoke with the owner of my local shop and after my threats of NEVER buying from him again he gave me a store credit for the HH. That's all I wanted in the first place.

Anyway, I used that credit and got a JARDIN DR-120. If your looking for some kind of pop up tent...........THIS IS THE ONE TO GET for sure. Far nicer than the HH ......IMO. Took me all of 20 minutes to set up. Nice interior reflection and love the sock type vent holes along with 3 entry doors. One main door and 1 smaller access door on two sides. The top support bars are made from heavy steel pipe unlike the HH wire type top supports. I set it up last night and will be placing my babies in there today. Go with Jardin. (by the way. I did not get the street model, To thin) get the good one for a few more $$)

Plant update:
Thanks to the posters on this site, I was able to save my last batch of plants. (I had already lost 18 before I new it was the HH) After removing my Hashberry and Purple Kush about 14 days ago...........they have started to recover nicely. All green is returning to most leaves and new growth has just restarted.

Thanks to all on here for this info that SAVED MY PURPLE KUSH !!! YOU K

Pirate
 
Z

zoolander

Pirate if you have the extra money check out the secret jardin it is made very well I have the home box and a jardin and think you would be very happy bro with one
 

Pirate

Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death !!
Veteran
=Pirate
Anyway, I used that credit and got a JARDIN DR-120. If your looking for some kind of pop up tent...........THIS IS THE ONE TO GET for sure. Far nicer than the HH ......IMO. Took me all of 20 minutes to set up. Nice interior reflection and love the sock type vent holes along with 3 entry doors. One main door and 1 smaller access door on two sides. The top support bars are made from heavy steel pipe unlike the HH wire type top supports. I set it up last night and will be placing my babies in there today. Go with Jardin. (by the way. I did not get the street model, To thin) get the good one for a few more $$)
Thanks ZOO !!
I think you missed part of my post. :laughing: I'll assume its that SPEEDQUEEN I saw ya growing and now probably smokin :rasta:

Pirate :headbange
 

DIGITALHIPPY

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u need to wash that plastic side of canvas with soap and water real good (dawn, ivory, palmolive)warm water, submerge it in your bathtub overnight...
its helped some of my frineds.
 
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