newbie flower question

[deliriumxx]

i was in growdocs new thread and he said he "sexxed the plants" do you have to do that in order for them to flower? i always thought females flowered as long as the males dont pollenate them, im confused as hell right now and whats the deal with hermaphradite plants? thanks to anyone that can help me

 

[truecannabliss]

By sexing the plants he is refering to putting it into a 12/12 light cycle in order get the plant to show its sex.

 

[deliriumxx]

after u determine the sex with 12/12 and u pick the males out, what light cycles should i use for flowering? i got 250watt hps up righ tnow

 

[Guest]

Some strains will show sex on a18/6 light cycle,but all will show under 12/12 cycle.As soon as males show remove them so that your female flowers will remain seedless.A hermaphrodite is a plant that will produce both male and female flowers,watch for these all through flowering if you want to keep it seedless.Hope this helps,peace.

 

[AlexanderS]

truecannabliss is right. when the light cycle is changed to 12/12 the plant will start flowering. males produce little stick and ball thingies which open to be a flower that makes pollen. and females make calyxs and hair comming outa the calyxs to catch the pollen.

hermie's are when a female or male plant grow a flower of the opposite sex, such as a female plant with calyxs and hairs grows male parts and sprouts a actual flower (sometimes before they open they look like and are refered to bananas) or less seen, male plant growin some small bud, its prolly just as common in male plants but most people dont keep em around long enough to notice they are hermies.
you dont realy want any hermies round cause if you breed with em you will end up with more, and if you flower them you run the risk of pollenating either the plant in question, or others in the vicinity. a plant that is not pollenated will focus on bud and resin production instead of making seeds. hermies can be caused by different kinds of stress to the plant or its genetics.

--AlexS

 

[Guest]

12/12 after peace

 

[deliriumxx]

damn you guys jsut told me exactly what i needed to know x100 im gonna learn so fast on this website, thanks alot everyone

but i got one more prob, i repotted my plants and theyre wilted like crazy, more and more every hour its about 80F, on 18/6 light with 250watt hps a mist them 2 swuirts almost every hour, any ideas how i can get them living again?

 

[resinryder]

When repotting I use something with vitamin B1 in it to help the plant easy through transplant shock which sounds like what you have. Superthrive mixed at 1/4 teaspoon per gallon of water works very well when transplanting.

 

[deliriumxx]

what should i do now that i already repotted them and cant get vit. b1 (im leaving tomorow for a week vacation)

 

[AlexanderS]

first off, how big are they? are they fresh sprouts or fully rooted plants with lots of leaves and stuff.
over watering can cause drooping, breaking the roots in transplant can cause plants to droop also. be careful how much super thrive you give, it can come in concentrated form too in which case a drop or two to a gallon.

 

[Guest]

Sounds like transplant shock to me. They may very well come back, but growth will be stunted for awhile. Don't over-do-it w/ the misting/watering...just enough so that the soil is moist. I use a humidity dome to prevent/revive wilted clones.

be careful how much super thrive you give, it can come in concentrated form too in which case a drop or two to a gallon.

I think Superthrive only comes in one concentration. 1 or 2 drops per gal is good for regular waterings and seed starting, but 1/4 tsp per gal is better for transplants (as Resinryder stated). As far as I know, you can't hurt your plants w/ Superthrive... nothing in it that "burns". Personally, I like Thrive Alive better anyway, and I have used both.

 

[deliriumxx]

i broke roots, im pretty sure thats the problem, but whats superthrive? and the leaves are turning yellow too( im not useing any nutrients)

 

[packn2puff]

Pic is worth a thousand words

Pic is worth a thousand words

Here's some pics of the first pre-flowers calyx.


Female
See how the calyx stays close to the plant and a V of hairs form

Male
See how the calyx is growing away and will cluster then open..and pollen

 

[packn2puff]

Superthrive is good for transplants...


Here's what they say:
A vitamin and hormone solution that increases the overall health of your plants. Use it with your cutting concentrate to increase your success with cuttings and increase the survival rate of difficult transplants. Use SUPERthrive™ today and give your plants 50 instant vitamins and hormones for healthy and beautiful plant crops. SUPERthrive is super concentrated; you use only a drop per gallon.

If your pH is out of whack, like way too low, you could have nute lockout. If things get out of hand you can flush with water until runoff is good...then start your ferts over. Transplants should be done when the plant is healthy. Emergency transplants only when you've done something real bad like spill the bottle of ferts in. Remember the trick here is to deliver the right amount of water and nutes. More of either just causes problems. You want your soil on the dryer side especially after the transplant so the roots will populate the soil in search of water, not slowly growing soaked in water and rotting. When the roots populate the pot to near rootbound, you won't believe how much they suck up. When the root system is small and rotted the plant suffers. Too much nutes and the soil builds up in salts..later causing pH problems and nute lockout problems.

Resist and don't water them until the pot is near bone dry...the roots will grow to find the water...don't bring the water to them yet. These plants are easier to fuk up by too much, than too little of anything. Light, Temp, Humidity, air circ, and fresh supply of CO2...that is fresh air anyway..will effect the plants way more than if they were a little low on nutes.

 

[Guest]

Great pics packn2puff!!!!

 

[JetUsUp]

<mastergrow - you say that you can over fert with SUPERThrive? if so i might have to go out right now and get some!

 

[Guest]

Hi JetUsUp! Yeah, I have used as much as 1 tsp per gal (that was probably just wasteful) w/ no ill affects. As I said before, I have since switched to Thrive Alive, because it also contains humic acid. Also, Thrive Alive green label is 100% organic... red label has the addition of natural growth hormones. Anyway, just a personal preference. Peace. MG

*If you still want to go w/ Superthrive, this is the cheapest place I found for it (and I looked extensively): http://www.bonsaiofbrooklyn.com/index2.html