This is proally a dumb question but I need a answer. Since this will be my first grow I want to try to keep it as simple as possible so I don't mess anything up. Does anyone know a good pre mixed soil I can get that will allow me to not have to use too many or any ferts during the grow ?
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newb soil question
- Thread starter dankedout
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Fox Farms Ocean Mix. It has everything you need to grow. It's alittle expensive though.
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Hi dankedout,
First of all, there is no such thing as a stupid question...only stupid answers. Dont be afraid to ask, the sensible folks here at icmag will lead you in the right direction.
I have had good success with fox farms ocean blend soil. Its got everything you need to get started. BUT....it will not feed the plant full term. You will need to start feeding them when they are 30-45 days old. Organic is my preferance in nutes more forgiving.
But if use chemicals...follow the instructions on the box and you cant go wrong.
hope this helps,
Seed
First of all, there is no such thing as a stupid question...only stupid answers. Dont be afraid to ask, the sensible folks here at icmag will lead you in the right direction.
I have had good success with fox farms ocean blend soil. Its got everything you need to get started. BUT....it will not feed the plant full term. You will need to start feeding them when they are 30-45 days old. Organic is my preferance in nutes more forgiving.
But if use chemicals...follow the instructions on the box and you cant go wrong.
hope this helps,
Seed
Trancerman
Member
miracle gro potting soil ; add a little bit more perlite.
easy as it gets
easy as it gets
I've never used anything straight out of the bag that kept my girls well fed troughout the grow, MJ is a high fert plant so it's only normal to have to add to it.
Ocean Forest is a good strat but you'll need some sort of P source and K towards the middle of flowering you can bet on that.
Try an all in one fert like PBPro veg and soil in a Promix HP with 30% added perlite, it will be cheaper the the FF Ocean Forest wich will need ferts at some point anyhow.
I dislike most MiracleGrow products, especially ones with time release ferts that can burn seedlings unless your aware of their existence.
Sub's
Ocean Forest is a good strat but you'll need some sort of P source and K towards the middle of flowering you can bet on that.
Try an all in one fert like PBPro veg and soil in a Promix HP with 30% added perlite, it will be cheaper the the FF Ocean Forest wich will need ferts at some point anyhow.
I dislike most MiracleGrow products, especially ones with time release ferts that can burn seedlings unless your aware of their existence.
Sub's
Skunkenstein
Active member
I totally agree with SUBY,there is no Magic bullet that will sustain a plant through the wholegrow. The needs change drastically.If a person can veg. the plant to a pre-determined heigth, then transplant into a large container with a good mix of blooming ammendments, and add good liquid ferts about midway through bloom..that the way to go.
Hunt4Hazez
Member
where can u get ocean forest soil in the States?
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guest3854
My suggestion would be to stick with a soil-less (coco , peat , etc) and water in your nutes . You will have WAY more control of what your feeding 'em . And FF is very "hot" on seedlings and clones .
BenKrishman
New member
steel savage said:
I'm looking to start growing in a month or two and am trying to do as much research before hand as possible. I'm looking to do an organic grow in soil, but this soiless option sounds interesting. Do you have any links that have more information, and maybe any links to more information about good nutes to use, and how to know when to give it what? Any info would be greatley appreciated.
BurnOne said:
Oops! Sorry, it must be the cough syrup.
Fox Farm Ocean Forest is good right out of the bag. It can be a little hot for seedlings. I would look for a bag of "Seed Starter Mix" at your local Home dePOT or Highs (Lowes). Pour it into a 1 qt nursery pot,sow your seed in it and grow it there until it's about two to four weeks old. Then transplant directly into the FFOF in a 1 gal. pot.
As stated above, you'll have to feed the plants during your grow cycle.
The easiest way I know to feed from there is Pure Blend Pro.
Pure Blend Pro veg formula for hydro/soil and Pure Blend Pro flower formula for Soil. Simply use as directed on the label. It's a stand-alone fertilizer. That means, everything you need is already in there so don't let the guy at the hydro store try to sell you something more.
Veg in the 1 gal. pots of FFOF using the PBP veg formula as directed on the label.
Then, after veg, transplant into 3 gal. pots of FFOF and use the PBP flower formula for soil as directed.
Harvest when ripe.
Sorry for the mixup.
Burn1
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guest3854
MetaNaturals is an all organic fert that does really well with coco . By watering IN your ferts , you will know EXACTLY what you are feeding your plants and at ph .
BenKrishman
New member
Is ph an issue in organic growing, or just in chemical based fert growing? If so what do I need to know about the ph of my water soil before I start a grow?
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guest3854
Ph while organically growing seems to be a bit of an issue 'round here . However I would ph to be on tha "right" side . As stated before , if you ARE goin into soil or a peat based soilless, you should throw some dolomite lime down , to sweeten things up and keep your ph neutral , be easier to control for ya .
BenKrishman
New member
Ok, cool. What parts would I want to mix the lime in if I'm going for a soil mix(looking like FFOF at this point). And is perlite already mixed in FFOF or will I need to add that as well? And my last question, since the soil already has nutes in it how long should I wait before feeding my plants the first time?
