New Water Cooled CO2 Burner!!!

[beamx0r]

this co2 burner does not cook your room and is 1/2 the price of the big ole co2 generators... looks almost too good to be true but i believe it!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDorIv81CA

 

[dongle69]

It uses an extreme amount of water!
I like the air cooled units for real world use.
I don't like how they cheated and took all the burners out of the comparison model. Of course it won't get much ppms that way!
Also, they put the sensor up high right where theirs blows, while the other unit releases downward.
This same company makes the heat sleeves for some reflectors.
They say it reduces heat, and it does, above the light. It actually increases heat below the light, right where your plants are.
Not too sure about those guys.
Good ideas but not quite implemented correctly yet.

 

[Mr Celsius]

Uhh, overthought and expensive (I'm sure)

Good idea... just pointless. K.I.S.S. is really important to me and if my res is empty, or the pump fails, then I'm F'ed. Burners... never seen an entire unit fail, just individual burners.

Also, for non-commercial applications (commercial = bigger then a 10x10 room), tanks are by far better because no heat and little humidity is released into the room. Yes, they cost more, yes you have to have them refilled, but I don't worry about the grow room catching fire and I know its going to be functional.

 

[beamx0r]

It uses an extreme amount of water!

the demo shows it using a little more than a trickle.

It appears solidly built, little heat and the price is half a convetional burner. Looks like a winner to me.

 

[The Son of Man]

You need an olympic sized swimming pool to run the thing.

 

[_Dude]

Also, for non-commercial applications (commercial = bigger then a 10x10 room), tanks are by far better because no heat and little humidity is released into the room. Yes, they cost more, yes you have to have them refilled, but I don't worry about the grow room catching fire and I know its going to be functional.

I've never run CO2 so take with plenty of salt, but based on my research I have to agree. You have to refill generators too, unless you've got a gas line to your home. But I think emitters are the way to go until your scale gets very big. I think they're better for small and medium commercial setups too. I'd like to learn more about generators though. I can't even get an answer about where the CO2 is emitted from a generator, and so far have to ASS-ume they emit gas all over the place, which makes them less than ideal IMO (if they emitted from a tube or port the gas could be directed, and the generator placed outside the grow area, which would eliminate the problems with generators).

 

[The Son of Man]

I've never run CO2 so take with plenty of salt, but based on my research I have to agree. You have to refill generators too, unless you've got a gas line to your home. But I think emitters are the way to go until your scale gets very big. I think they're better for small and medium commercial setups too. I'd like to learn more about generators though. I can't even get an answer about where the CO2 is emitted from a generator, and so far have to ASS-ume they emit gas all over the place, which makes them less than ideal IMO (if they emitted from a tube or port the gas could be directed, and the generator placed outside the grow area, which would eliminate the problems with generators).

Some models come with a vent/hookup--so it doesn't have to be in the growroom. you can mcgyver any of them to direct the flow.

 

[Bozo]

Id go in monthly for a bottle of co2 when monkes fly outa my ass .We have a small htdro place here but I wont even go there too paranoid bout it being watched rather take my chanches with internet police than the local nazis.So generator is only way to go for co2 for me
The hydrogen co2 generator is a tankless hot water heater this is not new technoligy and they are as safe as your propans water heater
I just started a thread bout this cause search wasnt workin.Look at the guts on that utube vid and then look at this http://www.tanklesswaterheatersdirect.com/shop/tanklesswaterheaters/aquastar/aquastarindex.htm#1600h
They look alot alike
Not stickin up for the fellas @ hydro inovations but I cant find a tankless propane water heater for $319 (thats lossest price I find for the hydrogen co2 gen).If you can post it up I'm all ears (any tankless propane/ng water heater will work )
It uses a ton of water for some that is a problem. I could care less flat rate water bill,and no shortage here .As for the co2 output I would dare to say it is probably very high,up there with 5 burner maybe?
Gas water heater exhaust has long been out there as an idea ,Wish I had thought od this I think its a great idea .There made to be used indoors as safe or safer than open burner
If I had to use a chiller or Rez no way but if you can use city water I think this is a good idea just my 2 pennies Peace

 

[yamaha_1fan]

Id go in monthly for a bottle of co2 when monkes fly outa my ass .We have a small htdro place here but I wont even go there too paranoid bout it being watched rather take my chanches with internet police than the local nazis.So generator is only way to go for co2 for me
The hydrogen co2 generator is a tankless hot water heater this is not new technoligy and they are as safe as your propans water heater
I just started a thread bout this cause search wasnt workin.Look at the guts on that utube vid and then look at this http://www.tanklesswaterheatersdirect.com/shop/tanklesswaterheaters/aquastar/aquastarindex.htm#1600h
They look alot alike
Not stickin up for the fellas @ hydro inovations but I cant find a tankless propane water heater for $319 (thats lossest price I find for the hydrogen co2 gen).If you can post it up I'm all ears (any tankless propane/ng water heater will work )
It uses a ton of water for some that is a problem. I could care less flat rate water bill,and no shortage here .As for the co2 output I would dare to say it is probably very high,up there with 5 burner maybe?
Gas water heater exhaust has long been out there as an idea ,Wish I had thought od this I think its a great idea .There made to be used indoors as safe or safer than open burner
If I had to use a chiller or Rez no way but if you can use city water I think this is a good idea just my 2 pennies Peace

While they seem similiar, I read on another board that there was a change made to the burners to make sure all the gas was burned


Anyone else using these? I did a google on it an I think it was rollitup where I read alot of positive responses. Maynot be a good option for a small grow but if running 10K+ in lights, it may be more efficient to cool the generator, then to use extra A/C.

 

[Bozo]

I dont belive that BS dout they changed shit cept added the o2 depletion sensor
Do you really think the maker of these uses burners that dont burn clean? If they changed burners why is effeciency still 86% just like the water heater version is
Threaded heat exchanger ? Please .... I would once again like to point out the same 86% rating ,wouldnt the manufacture have already built the most effecient heat exchanger already ? I am just stating how I feel I could be wrong dont wanna argue with Hydro Inovations there nice people and have great products For the sake of saftey the O2 depletion sensor(coulpled with CO detectors in rooms around unit)I would recomend the Hydrogen model .Althou knowing how well the originaly designed tankless water heater model works if I accidently drilled a hole in the heat exchanger I would buy the same 190$ model off of Ebay
Been using the water heater model now for a month I absolutly love it works flawlessly
Yamaha the stock exhaust on these is fairly hot watch the video he moves his hand away cause its hot and about to get burned.If you run it the way you are asking in the other thread with water that may get hot I belive it will increase the already hot exhaust.
With a cooler on exhaust they are outstanding with out not as good I imagine
Even on low they burn alota propane/make alotta CO2 so that heat is going some where,if not into the water then into the exhaust ? Wont hot water have the opposite affect cool water does ,what I mean is if water is effecient at tranfering heat out of the air is it just as effecient transferring it(heat) into it?
They will Probably only run till the over heat sensor on exchanger is tripped ,I am sure the water would scold you by then and the exhaust temps would be very high .Just like my exhaust cooler cools my exhaust till its cooler than room temp,hot water will have the oppsite effect and you will pump heat from burners and hot water into grow area adding heat even if mounted remotely .I would have mounted mine remotely but only option other than in room was in an area that would freeze when it was 10 below out .Very little co2 /heat leaks from top and side vents on low .On high theres more heat leaking from top side vents so I assume theres more co2 leaking not making it to exhaust .I draw my exhaust through a ford heater core with a suncort duct booster no ill effects on burn pattern ,so piping exhaust where you want wont be any problem
Hope you get people who have run them off small rez will pipe up. I was supprised there wasnt more intrest in the whole idea .Done right you could set this thing up in a phone booth and not get hot