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New marijuana industry wrestles with pesticides, safety

aridbud

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Associated Press -Kristen Wyatt
July 21, 2015

DENVER — Microscopic bugs and mildew can destroy a marijuana operation faster than any police raid. And because the crop has been illegal for so long, neither growers nor scientists have any reliable research to help fight the infestations.
As legal marijuana moves from basements and backwoods to warehouses and commercial fields, the mold and spider mites that once ruined only a few plants at a time can now quickly create a multimillion-dollar crisis for growers. Some are turning to industrial-strength chemicals, raising concerns about safety.
Pesticides and herbicides are regulated by the federal government, which still regards almost all marijuana as an illicit crop, so there’s no roadmap to help pot farmers. Chemists and horticulturalists can’t offer much assistance either. They sometimes disagree about how to combat the problem, largely because the plant is used in many different ways — smoked, eaten and sometimes rubbed on the skin.
“We have an industry that’s been illegal for so many years that there’s no research. There’s no guidelines. There’s nothing,” said Frank Conrad, lab director for Colorado Green Lab, a pot-testing lab in Denver.
In states that regulate marijuana, officials are just starting to draft rules governing safe levels of chemicals. So far, there have been no reports of any human illness traced to chemicals used on marijuana, but worries persist.
The city of Denver this spring quarantined tens of thousands of marijuana plants at 11 growing facilities after health inspectors suspected use of unauthorized pesticides. Some of the plants were later released after tests revealed the pot was safe, but two producers voluntarily destroyed their plants. Eight businesses have still at least some plants in quarantine.
In Oregon, a June investigation by The Oregonian newspaper found pesticides in excess of legal limits on products ranging from marijuana buds to concentrated marijuana oils. Other pesticides detected on the marijuana are not regulated by Oregon’s marijuana rules, meaning that products containing those chemicals still can be sold there.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, which decides which pesticides can be used on which crops, just last month told Colorado and Washington authorities that they could apply to have some cannabis-related chemicals approved through what’s called a “special local need registration.” But that process could take years.
Colorado and Oregon require retail marijuana to undergo testing for pesticides and other contaminants. But as the Oregon investigation showed, the testing regimes are imperfect. And Colorado hasn’t yet implemented requirements for retail pot to undergo pesticide testing because of regulatory delays.
Washington state is still working on its pesticide rules. The nation’s largest marijuana producer, California, has no regulations at all for growing commercial pot.
“It’s a lot more difficult than it sounds, and it’s expensive,” Washington Liquor Control Board spokesman Brian Smith said about testing for pesticides.
As a result, unscrupulous pot growers can use banned chemicals with little chance of being caught.
“We were taken by surprise, this whole pesticide issue,” said Ashley Kilroy, Denver’s director of marijuana policy. She was talking to a room of about 200 pot-industry workers invited to lunch earlier this month to learn about pesticide quarantines and rules.
What the growers heard wasn’t encouraging.
“There is no federal agency that will recognize this as a legitimate crop,” said Whitney Cranshaw, a Colorado State University entomologist and pesticide expert. “Regulators just bury their heads, and as a result, pest-management information regarding this crop devolves to Internet chats and hearsay.”
Marijuana growers are indeed guessing when they treat their plants.
For example, one of the chemicals cited in the Denver quarantines, a fungicide called Eagle 20 EW, is commonly used on grapes and hops but can become dangerous when heated and is banned for use on tobacco. No research exists on whether the fungicide is safe to use on pot that will be eaten.
Several pot growers interviewed by The Associated Press agreed that research is needed on pesticides for pot. But they pointed out that pesticides are widely used on food crops, and that weed consumers have never before had as much information about the marijuana they buy.
“It’s just like broccoli or spinach or peaches or anything. The plant is susceptible to certain pests,” said Gabriel Fairorth, cultivation manager for Denver’s Herbal Remedies.
Fairorth does not use any banned chemicals on his plants and was not affected by the quarantines, but he questioned some of the banned chemicals.
“If you have all these chemicals that are safe on products you eat, but you can’t use them on marijuana, I don’t know that I agree with that.”
The founder of the nation’s oldest marijuana-legalization advocacy group, Keith Stroup of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, or NORML, pointed out that regulators today are at least starting to look at marijuana safety.
In the 1980s, the federal government used an herbicide called paraquat to kill illicit marijuana crops, even though the poison had been banned from national forests because of environmental concerns. NORML complained to the White House that some of that weed survived and was turning up on the street.
“The response was, ‘It’s illegal and we don’t have an obligation not to poison it,’” Stroup recalled. “No one was taking us seriously.”
Recent actions by states with legal weed have been encouraging, if slow, he said.
“The idea that it’s been on the black market and people are fine so therefore we don’t need testing is absurd,” Stroup said. “No one would want to be using a product that has molds or pesticides.”

The few times I tried a few grams checking potency/flavor against our strains, I was aghast at all the labeling the samples had...nutrient and pesticide.

NO THANKS! I'll grow ours organically and not compromise with pesticides!!! If there's any sort of malady in the crops (strains we breed), it's dumped.
 

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I agree w your comment Arid.

Pesticides and herbicides are regulated by the federal government, which still regards almost all marijuana as an illicit crop, so there’s no roadmap to help pot farmers.

To this I say bull effin shit!

Use the food industry for beginning guidelines but keep in mind that this plant is also smoked and if heating a particular product makes it toxic, like eagle20, Don't use it!

How difficult can it be to research some of these '''cides''' that are being considered for consumption in/on cannabis? The info is out there.

Another thought...
I've noticed that rec weed is labeled w the name of the growers (business name). these are also researchable.
 
W

WeetisPotPie

Welcome to true commercial cannabis! I'll stick to the underground stuff and so will my
customers.
 

aridbud

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Totally agree MJ @ Weet-

One spider mite, numerous greenhouses....not a good mix. Know several growers for personal consumption that had to eradicate their grows due to insect infestation.

If commercial, yikes! Just look at grits....those black specs in a box of grits aren't ground up corn! Yikes!

I think this has been going on....it's just the first time reported to newspaper. Tsk.

Might bring higher prices, the old supply and demand.
 

ChaosCatalunya

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First thing to do is look at Tobacco, the other legal smokeable, regulated drug...

I have no idea of the regulations regarding Tobacco, its pesticides, insecticides and their residues, but someone surely does ?

Other crops, food, what are the regulations, testing, advisories ?

I heard that Tobacco in cigarettes has a lot of other nasty shit mixed in, Formaldehyde was one that I always remember, and people always advise you to wash fruit before eating it... So maybe there are no limits,tests, penalties for crops "over the limit"

Whatever the situation is, it would be ideal if we could somehow get Cannabis well regulated in this regard, but to do so, may step on some very powerful toes in other, established industries with powerful friends in high places. This may prove to be the biggest problem to overcome.

One alternative would be to develop our own, with higher standards, and to hell with Tobacco, fruit and veg farmers. A recent conversation amongst friends centred around this. Any outlet, Dispensary or Shop in the US, orr for example, Social Club here in Spain gets "encouraged" to submit a tiny sample to a helpful lab for certification, anybody not doing so gets pressured by making and shaming ...
 

MountZionCollec

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We don't need the government we need third party inspectors like Certified kind and clean green to ensure proper cultivation processes...THEN 3rd party lab tests for pesticides when they do the cannabinoid-terpinoid-mold exam. A two prong approach that does not require enlarged government would be ideal.

The government is good at settings minimum standards, but their track record on pesticides is already quite poor.
 

aridbud

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Tobacco is entirely different in regards to pests than cannabis. Mostly cut worm like insects. For centuries until synthetic pesticides were invented, TOBACCO (or it's component's) were used as pesticides.

From Wikipedia:

Tobacco water, tobacco juice or tobacco dust juice tobacco lime or is a traditional organic insecticide used in domestic gardening.[1][2] In The English Physician Enlarged of 1681, Nicholas Culpeper recommends tobacco juice to kill lice on children's heads, referencing it as an insecticide poison. Farmers have been using nicotine sulfate insecticide since the early 19th century.

Tobacco water is produced by boiling strong tobacco in water, or by steeping the tobacco in water for a longer period. When cool, the mixture can be applied with a spray, or 'painted' on to the leaves of garden plants, where it will prove deadly to insects[citation needed].

Tobacco dust juice has a similar use but is produced by mixing water with tobacco dust and black pepper.

Basque angulero fishermen kill immature eels (elvers) in an infusion of tobacco leaves before parboiling them in salty water for transportation to market as angulas, a seasonal delicacy.

Spider mites attacks a wide range of plants, including peppers, tomatoes, potatoes, beans, corn, cannabis, and strawberries.Other species which can be important pests of commercial plants include Panonychus ulmi (fruit tree red spider mite) and Panonychus citri (citrus red mite).

Different measures for ridding them.

An abstract quotes how regulations differ- scary!

Environ Health Perspect. 2005 Dec;113(12):1659-65.

The tobacco industry and pesticide regulations: case studies from tobacco industry archives.
Tobacco is a heavily pesticide-dependent crop. Because pesticides involve human safety and health issues, they are regulated nationally and internationally; however, little is known about how tobacco companies respond to regulatory pressures regarding pesticides. In this study we analyzed internal tobacco industry documents to describe industry activities aimed at influencing pesticide regulations. We used a case study approach based on examination of approximately 2,000 internal company documents and 3,885 pages of U.S. Environmental Protection Agency documents obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests. The cases involved methoprene, the ethylene bisdithiocarbamates, and phosphine. We show how the tobacco industry successfully altered the outcome in two cases by hiring ex-agency scientists to write reports favorable to industry positions regarding pesticide regulations for national (U.S. Environmental Protection Agency) and international (World Health Organization) regulatory bodies. We also show how the industry worked to forestall tobacco pesticide regulation by attempting to self-regulate in Europe, and how Philip Morris encouraged a pesticide manufacturer to apply for higher tolerance levels in Malaysia and Europe while keeping tobacco industry interest a secret from government regulators. This study suggests that the tobacco industry is able to exert considerable influence over the pesticide regulatory process and that increased scrutiny of this process and protection of the public interest in pesticide regulation may be warranted."

There's no sure fire way of ridding pests, mold, etc.

Maybe some will realize before purchasing from Legal or MMJ dispensaries or ask before buying what has been sprayed or used systemically.

Better to GYO, you control the outcome. Easier said than done.
 

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