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SooperSmurph
Outdoor in CO is greenhouse or no go most of the time, considering it is HAILING LIKE BALLS right now in Denver anyone who has their plants out already is paying for it.
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NEW Colorado Growers Thread
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MileHighGlass
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I can see 100 acres of autoflowers being planted trying to harness the great outdoor season.
Kweku Ananse
Member
Hailing Like balls lol... 60mi due north of denver we got 70 and sunshine
Ps Bobby stainless. Love what you have written about determination in your sig. That kind of thinking has gotten me where I am today...
...and it shows me where i'll be tomorrow!
Ps Bobby stainless. Love what you have written about determination in your sig. That kind of thinking has gotten me where I am today...
...and it shows me where i'll be tomorrow!
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SooperSmurph
The concept has been tossed around for years but the things limiting such an operation are first of course regs, then finding the amount of well femminized seed you need to plant such a field (not to mention of sufficient quality), because having only 50% (best case) of the plants you grow be usable would discourage a large standard seed autoflower grow.I can see 100 acres of autoflowers being planted trying to harness the great outdoor season.
I've heard of experiments where people were able to force autoflowering plants into a "veg" like state, with little if any flower material, this might make cloning possible for such a grow?
I'd love to try it, it'd be a lot of work, but worth it, delicious raw data!
I'm on the fence about playing around with autos. I feel like it's the same amount of pain in the ass as depping a traditional grow, just different pains.
Corvette Doc
Member
If you would like a pack of fem seeds from SourSeed I think you can find me. I refuse to grow autos and these are femmed I won't even open the package. Sorry but I am getting too sick to get out much...You will have to come get them...I will give you some of my own as well.
Now the purple laughing grass that came with em...I hope there is still time enough to run em. I am SOOO behind because of loosing plants while they locked me in Parkview because my potassium was 1.9 and they wouldn't let me out till it hit 3.5.
I am hoping for cooler temps Thursday to move a few plants into my GH.
Now is what I have a green house? The Solexx roof tends to lean toward saying yes, but the wall are just heavy chain-link fence with shade cloth to meet the State's requirement of "out of public view".
I know many grows are just using what we called hardware cloth (a heavy 1/4" mesh screen) to protect from animals and hail...I just wanted to have more control on moisture in the plot.
I didn't harvest that PCK that won till NOV. 6TH! There is a much longer season than some people seem to be aware of. That is the TRUE native difference.
I put stupid little CFLs over my GH to extend veg until mid July...that is my only true crime in E usage.
Corvette Doc
Member
I am sorry but I have to call 100% BS on this. And I know I need to explain deeper before the new lemmings start to see another path. The average ounces per plant for indoor grows seems to be about 6-10 at best...That is the average of my worst test grow plants. My main plants generally average 26-36 oz (trimmed bud only) per plant. You might get 3 more runs on skimpy results but in the end I will harvest a little bit more and it will be much better. This year my numbers will NOT be that high...I am scared because of this and going a little nuts... Normally I have about 10-12 plants started around Valentines day to put out. Everything I have was started after April 12 this year and only a couple of those made it.
The only reason the INDUSTRY is going that way is because no-one looked outside for very long.
Quitt topping so early...I top Indicas at about 3' and Sativas about 4.5-5'. This gives giant colas that are a little hard to deal with but...I also collect about 1.5 to 2 LBS of leaf and trim per plant to make into GREEN DRAGON TEA.
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What exactly are you calling BS on because your arguments don't seem to fit the conversation??
I think outdoor in colorado is at best an extra bonus for the year, not your single source of income like people in california. Like has ben mentioned, the frost window is narrow, the season starts late, and if I lived there Id just try and pull a dec in the window of the best weather. I don't think the plants mid the cold late in the season unless you're talking below 25. However the lack of humidity is most concerning to me and why Id think greenhouse is really your only option.
I also agree with BobbyS that a handful of large commercial grows consume more energy and resources than all the home growers combined. Some of them are installing solar to help offset the absurd power use though.
Corvette Doc
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I hate commercial grows just because they don't care about the plant, or the planet...just cash.
If they did they could open up large areas of partially protected grow space and increase their profit by decreasing their outlay...Everything seems to be following a lemming view that you can't grow in Colorado outdoors. I have had fair results in the mountains but the the problem is every one is missing a GIANT banana belt and lemming out for lights....There is a very great growing window here, you just have to be connected to the terrain well enough to see/feel it.
Take a metal building for about 10000'2 (sq ft) and put mesh over the area instead of the roof. In my part of the state the structure will start to naturally retain heat starting in early April by blocking winds and redirecting sunlight...If YOU FACE IT RIGHT. Now set drainages inside the structure for rain and mix your watering in with this the best you can. Put medium size wind turbines over the area (if you can afford) to generate E for the structure and supporting people. They can also be used to redirect some of our winds if some-one can think of a computer program to interface for this...the way they face changes surface winds...I was tripping on this a couple of years ago down by Walsenburg...why has no-one looked at how placing these in the right place can really change surface conditions???
Switch to LED and low e lighting for the April-July parts...Then let em run...The difference over spending thousands of dollars per month on electricity is the real way to go...The others are out in space too early.
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SooperSmurph
Been saying for years that greenhouses will win eventually, best of both worlds, controlled environment plus the big halide in the sky.
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Jake the Snake
Jake the Snake
Saw this on 9News the other night. Some good press for our cause, from Jake Plummer. I guess he's been an advocate for quite a while now. Good on him.
http://www.9news.com/news/health/he...er-broncos-quarterback-jake-plummer/206582242
Jake the Snake
Saw this on 9News the other night. Some good press for our cause, from Jake Plummer. I guess he's been an advocate for quite a while now. Good on him.
http://www.9news.com/news/health/he...er-broncos-quarterback-jake-plummer/206582242
rockymountainJ
Active member
Corvette Doc
Member
Above 6k' anything that blocks light or decreases air flow will hurt you. There just isn't much left for them up there to give-up. I only grew completely open in Beulah years ago...it was VERY hard.
Whoever has the engineering skills to build the structure I am thinking of will be set if I am right. Good luck and please remember this idea around Christmas.
Whoever has the engineering skills to build the structure I am thinking of will be set if I am right. Good luck and please remember this idea around Christmas.
rockymountainJ
Active member
Turned out good, just cold morning temps create alot of condensation. Buds are great and always frosty as hell way up here.... just saying anyone considering higher altitude greenhouse, be aware of environment or it will make you aware of it... Cheers all
What do you all think should happen to a person (or persons) who commits a home invasion with the intent to steal cannabis from a person and they end up killing a person in the process of said invasion?
I ask because said scenario actually played out yesterday down in Durango. Four young men all residents of the state of Arizona shot and killed a young man in an armed robbery with the intent of stealing a large amount of cannabis.
Here is a link to a newspaper article
http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...-led-to-killing-of-Fort-Lewis-College-student
I ask because said scenario actually played out yesterday down in Durango. Four young men all residents of the state of Arizona shot and killed a young man in an armed robbery with the intent of stealing a large amount of cannabis.
Here is a link to a newspaper article
http://www.durangoherald.com/articl...-led-to-killing-of-Fort-Lewis-College-student
Dunno, there are a butt load of outdoor growers on the western slope, I'm at 7k ft, and have no problems outdoor. Plant first week of June and come down first weeks of October.
Incidents such as this are the main reason folks must retain all RIGHTS!
When seconds count the cops are minutes away!
I honestly dont care if they figure out who the trigger man is. All 4 perps should be charged with murder in the 1st degree as well as a conspiracy charge.
Corvette Doc
Member
You know it seems strange that guys from Arizona could have just stumbled onto a grow. It sounds like the grower was trying to set up a deal.
If Colorado would put together a way for small growers to sell through production facilities he might not ever even seen them but...
It's bullshit & will get beat down the first time they actually try to enforce it. Growers' rights as enumerated under A64 are per person, not per household or address. Denver has a 12/6 ordnance per household that's never been enforced ( to my knowledge) or challenged in court. It's a bluff designed to intimidate.
Corvette Doc
Member
I hope you are right. Pueblo seems to be tracking down greenhouses. I know of one that got a large ticket and was forced to take it down. He didn't fight it...I will have no choice. I don't think that he has kept his license??? I will have to ask that. But A64 didn't change anything on the original medical growing laws. Those are what I am counting on for a defense and SERIOUSLY ridiculous high law suit for HIPA, and other rights violations. I will have no choice but to fight, the same way that I can't afford to grow indoors and shouldn't have to.
Now I have a question since I have never been part of larger grow.
How much dried bud can be harvested out of a 10,000sqft indoor facility in one year? How much are the operational costs of pots (or hydroponics), the light bulbs and electricity, All of these things that an open grow doesn't need???
I am only guessing but think that it could run about 500plants per year my way. So figure about 1000lbs of bud and half again as much trim. Over a ton...I couldn't imagine how to trim it all though. I don't know about a lot of other costs so it is hard to be sure but I think my way will also increase the profit margin considerably as well???
