Neville's Haze Early Spring Harvest (Southern California)

[Eudaemon]

Hi! I'm new here, heh. I am a first time cannabis grower. I just finished my first indoor run a couple weeks ago. I wanted to dabble in outdoor growing and photoperoid expeiments, so I took an extra Neville's Haze plant I had, that looked nice, and I decided to nurse it indoors through the frost in veg, begin flowering, and transplant once the weather permits, using the remaining 12/12 photoperiod for the stretch, bud development, etc. The result is, I, rather easily, brought a sativa to ripeness outdoors with a harvest date of mid april. This is all in SoCal.

The yield will be at least a couple of pounds and there have been no signs of stress. To be honest, it took almost no electricity to maintain the plant through the winter; I kept it in windows and brought it outside when I could. I am not sure if this is done often, but this could easily be implemented large scale to squeeze in an early spring outdoor harvest, especially for Indicas.

Is this done often? I know its done in some countries, in certain regions, but I haven't heard of it done here. Its pretty sticky, too.

 

[plantingplants]

Nice! I love experiments and it's great to see good results! Looks great! ..and first time, too.. you've got a green thumb. So when did you finally transplant it outside?

I've seen a few mentions of folks doing that, one was in so cal.

 

[Eudaemon]

Thanks! Outdoor really is a lot more fun. More relaxing, less stress, better yield. I'm autistic and science is my obsession, so if it can be synthesized, grown, or blown up, I'm on it.

I transplanted outside at the very beginning of March. There were a few nights below freezing, but the plant was never effected. I really kept expecting it to die, reveg, or explode, but it just kept chugging away. Photoperiods are really 'soft' outdoors. I've learned that things like BMNT (begin morning nautical twilight, ) and EENT (end evening nautical twilight) can be precisely tracked and you can really dial down the photoperiods and the plants response. It sucks I have to wait until next year to try again . . .

 

[Top_shelf_farms]

Right on nice plant! My uncle does the same thing with 10 plants and does good

 

[Organiks]

Niceeee

 

[Swamp Thang]

Perfect Christmas tree shape it has and all. It is also inspiring to hear that you kept this plant in veg through the winter without spending any extra on heating. That is one healthy and robust sativa cola tree fer sure.

The science of marijuana cultivation advances incrementally with each new idea shared over the internet, and your photos of harvesting a sativa in April ought to silence any skeptics about the method used to get these superb results. Great stuff.

 

[stoned-trout]

yeehaw I just harvested a crop and my next will be finished end of month in greenhouse...so cal rules....haven't grown a haze in a long time ....hope you enjoy it....and yes spring crops are common for me anyhow

 

[Betterhaff]

Nice looking plant. Just curious, how long did you have it in flowering cycle before you transplanted out?

 

[plantingplants]

Could you elaborate on what you mean by 'soft' photoperiods and what you've learned about the twilight periods?

Next spring, try a hoophouse. They're easy to build and I bet the warmth they'll provide in mar/Apr will help you get even better results.

Also if you love science, check out a book called The Biotechnology of Cannabis. You can find the PDF online.

 

[Mendogrowing]

Das'cool man. I have some flowering kinda similar. I started seeds in the fall and the went through the winter in the greenhouse with no care really, it got down to 18 degrees (twice) and that really shows you what the ld-50 for temp is lol. I threw some supplemental light on early Jan and pulled them out of flower and then cut the lights maybe in feb, this was very much an experiment in plant torture at this point. I moved them out of the greenhouse for a more serious dep garden & now I'm watching in my outdoor garden do there thing not as far along as you but I think I'll end up with something, breaking even on the soil would be sweet, I wrote that off a long time ago.

 

[bigherb]

Nice work


Nevilles Haze is a tough plant hard to kill . I've been suggesting for years for others to attempt this . Intimidating to many , It's nice to see her finished outdoor .

I'm curious to see dry bud shots and smoke report in the future

1luvbigherb

 

[plantingplants]

Mendo, it got 18f in the green house? Was that really the LD50? That's impressive.

 

[Eudaemon]

Nice looking plant. Just curious, how long did you have it in flowering cycle before you transplanted out?

It flowered for about 2-3 weeks beforehand, using natural light, either outside or in a window, then manually forced into darkness. To be honest, I didn't think the timing would work, especially for Nevilles, Haze. I thought it would reveg!

 

[Eudaemon]

Could you elaborate on what you mean by 'soft' photoperiods and what you've learned about the twilight periods?

Next spring, try a hoophouse. They're easy to build and I bet the warmth they'll provide in mar/Apr will help you get even better results.

Also if you love science, check out a book called The Biotechnology of Cannabis. You can find the PDF online.

Thanks for the suggestion! I am going to find that pdf ASAP.

When I was trying to predict what was going to happen with the plant, I looked, initially, at sunset and sunrise, but that really can't be used to predict the photoperoid--there is wide range between day and night, and if you really get technical, I believe you can predict, within 10 or so minutes, when a plant believes it is "night time." This doesn't really help much, unless you are trying to plan a spring harvest, down to the week. I've attached the graphic I found that best explains the concept of twilight.

I believe the plant believes it is "night time," inbetween sunset and dusk, which can be a while, specially depending on where you live, and I want to try predicting where exactly by planting several plants, of varying flowering times--some exceeding the 12/12 window of early spring, in spring and seeing when they reveg or stress. Twilight can last between 30 minutes and an hour IIRC, so its a long window in which to work and plan.

Edit: This was the type of tool I was initially using to research, but I realized plants react with light and light reacts with the earth in a complex manner, lol.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/Dur_OneYear.php

 

[plantingplants]

That's some worthy research. Outdoor photoperiod info seems a little muddled. I always figured twilight periods weren't bright enough so plants woke up after sunrise and slept at sunset but it makes more sense that its not so precise. I'm sure it's also affected by shade. It probably just comes down to the amount of light they're getting but I've also heard that cannabis responds to the red spectrum that occurs in the twilight periods...

 

[Betterhaff]

It flowered for about 2-3 weeks beforehand, using natural light, either outside or in a window, then manually forced into darkness. To be honest, I didn't think the timing would work, especially for Nevilles, Haze. I thought it would reveg!

So basically a light dep prior to transplant. As far as when a plant goes to sleep or wakes up, I remember reading somewhere that a plant actually starts revving up its daytime processes or metabolism (?) a couple of hours prior to light cycle. I think what's more important is the length of total darkness.

 

[bigherb]

What I'm saying is NH can finish outdoor period in many locations most wouldn't believe especially SoCal . No light dep necessary no indoor start or nothing .


IME 4 different phenos finished outdoor NYC end Oct / November

The cold isn't much a problem the rain and cold together can create issues

I'd suggest running them this season , if you have cuttings that will only help with the finish . I'm a Haze lover and had to have this strain .My first attempt some years ago ,my thought was what is the big deal of not finishing the plant I wasted one seed

Can't post pics now but they r in my Haze thread here or you can check the Farm for my NH thread

We don't know unless we try
Best wishes


1luvbigherb

 

[Betterhaff]

^^ Good to know, thanks bigherb. Have been a little gun shy with that one, Mango Haze was struggling to finish here.

 

[vidro]

Great plant!!
enjoy the summer

 

[Manivelle]

i'm curious to see the entire grow next year if you plan to do it again .