Never seen 'this' happen before.

[Chief Stupafyah]

I have four more just like it that are uneffected. This happened in the last four hours, since this morning.

Cant find anything ofthe kind in stiches guide. These spots are irregular and random effecting only the older 6 leaves.

The spots cast a shadow when the leaves are back lit. The larger more develloped leaves are the most effected.

The plants are growing in plain black gold potting soil with perlite. They have been folier fed twice, and Im hoping thats all thats wrong with it.

I dont have a PH tester yet, going after one shortly, Im hoping this isnt whats wrong.


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[Guest]

you said they were foliar fed, did you feed that way this AM?

if so, did you use a wetting agent?

 

[Chief Stupafyah]

no not this morning, fed em last night. I used a weak solution of Elenors VF-11 and a touch of superthrie. They are due for a watering about now, but are showing no signs of complaining yet.

I dont thik its critters, grew these from seeds in over the counter potting soil. And if it was some sort of mobile critters, they certainly wouldnt leave my other plants alone.

All of the plants are the same, under the same conditions.

 

[Guest]

it could be buildup on the leaf itself, is elenors vf11 a wetting agent?

 

[Chief Stupafyah]

Noo, its not a wetting agent, its an 'available form' plant food with trace elements. Thats why I also suspect its a feeding scorch. As you can see, this plant is only on its third node, its good stuff.

Im just really hoping thats what happened here. Then I can just put it back and let it grow out of it.

The cabs been running 75 to 80 at 30 to 45% so I dont think its any kinda fungus neither.

 

[Guest]

without using a wetting agent or mild dish soap water beads on the leaves and can cause burn by magnifying the light, or again it might just be excess nute build-up

 

[Chief Stupafyah]

Oh I spray the underside, and Im using cfls to veg these. Could be a burn though, I sprayed em prety good cause theyre dry, I was waiting for the 'damp one' to catch up before wattering today.

its otehrwise healthy, I could prune the effected if needed, but would rather not. Im a Big Fan of Leaves. Leaves and roots make new growth and buds, the more the merryer.

If this is just fert scorch, what will happen. Will it spread, or just effected areas. Will the spots just turn brown or will teh leaves die back like normal fert burn.

Ive never fed folier before, I found this stuff while searching for foxfarms stuff.

The fert is really more a bloomer than a vegger (.15 .85 .55) but the soil has lots of N to start with so its all good. the stuff also has a generous portion of micronutrents.

Also there is superthrive, this is not a plant food, but a rooting cloning and shock treatment. Superthrive is not used in an y kind of quantity and is not known for burning.

 

[Blackmelo]

Well I might be wrong on this but as far as I know superthrive is not a foliar applied hormone.

Also, when foliar feeding one should always use half the dose one would normally use to water.

Superthrive should be fed at 1 drop (and I mean 1 drop, not 1 ml which is the equivalent of 25 drops....) per gallon.

If I were to use superthrive as a foliar spray which i never ever would... then I would use 1 drop per 2 gallons.

I would seriously not use it as a foliar spray however. There will be no added advantage of doing it like this.

PS: you reckon feeding them a flowering nute in vegg is "all good". You are feeding about 10 times less N than you should be and about 10 times more P, that is not all good in my opinion.

 

[Chief Stupafyah]

The superthrive is in the water im watering with @ the traditional drop per gal.

The other food I was spraying on em (not anymore). Theyre on straight water now, the soil mix Im using still has plenty of poop left.

The one on the left is one of the ones I fed that isnt scorched. On right is one that is just eating the soil its in. Likely plants used up what they wanted and burned on what was left soaked into the leaves.

I am still looking for a better set of food for em like foxfarms stuff, might just mix in some organics with the dirt when they go into gallons and forgo feeding till later on.

Its also bagseed, and not hermed ones either, these are loose male polinated so there is a great deal of variety in the plants. Likely why the same treatment scorched one and not the other.

This plant is still holding its own with the others, but it may well fall behind in the next week or two because of this. Im going with "use the right tool for the job" on this one.

Would also really like some spinout paint for the pots if I can find that too. Might have to drive into the city to get it all.

 

[Chief Stupafyah]

Diagnosis, "Noob Burn"

Im going along with Rkrone and Blackmelo here.

I fed it too much of the wrong food. Plants trived on what they needed at the time and one of em got sick on the rest. I hope the other two that got fed will be okay.

I kinda knew this was the problem, I sprayd them from the bottom, you can even see the shadow from the pot and lower leaves. TO spite the burns, the leaves feel cool and healthy to the touch, not at all crispy.

Im going to solve this by making some real good organic soil for the repotting, and getting the proper food for veglings. I might still use the stuff in the water for flower if I dont find anything more apropriate. (Have some reading to do tonight)

I have been using it on houseplants for a long time, it makes em grow crazy big.

 

[Chief Stupafyah]

Holy crap Rcone?

I musta screwed up and hit the wrong button,

That shoulda been a 'green' one.

Sorry dude, Ill pop ya one or two at random here soon as I can.



BTW, this plant is now flowering nicely. The problem turned out to be more tap water ph related. Started using a filter on the sink, and it all cleared right up.