Need help with pest identification please

[Blazeee]

I noticed a few of these pests in my veg tent about a week ago, and im not too sure what they are. At first i was thinking spider mites, but im not sure if they could be thrip larvae?

I recieved some clones recently so thats what put me on edge.

Ive dealt with thrips in the past and successfully wiped them out, so i know what thrips look like, was just wondering if this was in there earliest stages?

I noticed a couple very small white looking bugs running around on the top of the soil / lower leaves on the plant and up and down the stems. I also saw them at soil level running down the sides of the pots in to the rootzone. At first they were very difficult to spot and take a picture of, they were moving very quickly.

I have some pesticides on hand just incase. As soon as i saw them i Sprayed them down with some PV Plant wash. The bottles old and ive had it for a while, I believe PV Plant wash is sold in the US as Green Cleaner, but i think recently the US version got changed from green to blue? Well i still have one of the older bottles thats green and i have sprayed with that twice around 2-3 days apart.

Ive also sprayed them down 3 days ago with some DR Schimmel's Spider mite terminator. But after checking the tent last night i saw still able to spot a few of the fuckers.

Ive also got a full bottle of plant vitality pro, which contains abamectin. The plant vitality was banned for sale over here a few years ago. I was debating weather or not to spray down with this tonight.

After doing some research at first i thought they could have been Hypoasis miles, however once i saw them on the leaves i started to think spider mites. I asked my mate and he asked me if i thought they could have been thrip larvae as i was dealing with thrips in the past. However once i showed him the pics he didnt have a clue.

Please help me IC

Ive got all my genetics backed up safely, i could tear the veg tent down tonight and have everything back tomorrow, only things i would lose is the new arrivals, and i dont to throw in the towel this early. Would it be easier to beat if i cut down everything i have backed up and just focus on saving the new stuff?

Its not a heavy infestation, seems ive caught it in the earliest stages. I just need some help figuring out what these fuckers are and the best way to beat them. The flower tent is clean its only the veg tent that is affected.

Anyway heres the pics, pests were mainly under the leaves, the little fucker ran to the other side of the leaf once i removed it.

 

[BakedBandit]

I don't see the aphid tailpipes but that's what I'm thinking. I'd pull a plant out of the pot and check the root zone

 

[Highburyway]

They look like spider mites to me bud

I have found harkers harker-mectin kills spider mites in 1 or 2 applications

 

[Miraculous Meds]

At first glance it looks like a bulb mite. Check closely on the butt for the classic cornicles that look like tail pipes to help identify if it's an aphid. Ur leaf pic looks a bit black speckled like possible thrips. But if there causing that, the u will surely find them close to that damage.

Gl bud, I had some bugs like that in my soil once, n I never did positively identify them.

I just looked at the first leaf pic again, and if that's the same as the leaf closeups, it doesn't look like any damage.

 

[Blazeee]

At first glance it looks like a bulb mite. Check closely on the butt for the classic cornicles that look like tail pipes to help identify if it's an aphid. Ur leaf pic looks a bit black speckled like possible thrips. But if there causing that, the u will surely find them close to that damage.

Gl bud, I had some bugs like that in my soil once, n I never did positively identify them.

I just looked at the first leaf pic again, and if that's the same as the leaf closeups, it doesn't look like any damage.

Thanks for the response, i really appreciate it.

I did try the potato test for root aphids but didnt find any that im aware of. I will have to do some more research on bulb mites

I did have a minor thrip issue a while ago but im pretty positive that i cleaned them up, i havent seen any thrips since.

Yes that first pic is the same leaf as the close ups.

I did have another member message me saying that it could potentially be broad mites, but i thought they wernt visible to naked eye etc. I was able to look very closely at the plant and see these bastards moving about..

Going to try and nuke them with the plant vitality pro in a couple hours. The plant vitality contains abamectin, i know abamectin can help kill alot of different pests, would it also work on broadmites? As i know avid and gaurdian contained abamectin, im thinking the Plant vitality may be a good option to use?

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Yep, avid/abenectim will kill broads. U can't see broads with just ur eyes though. And usually people notice bm's after a phantom def, such as cal or mg. If u use abenectim, use ppe, make a spray plan not to contaminate anything, and watch ur rei. Also u should have a safe way to exhaust.

I really wouldn't think a bulb mite would be on a leaf, but I'm no expert. Could maybe be h miles soil mite, in which case it shouldn't cause any probs. Can u count the legs?

 

[Big-Narstie]

I haven't got my glasses but it's looking like a young tick to me with my fuzzy eye sight

 

[Scrappy-doo]

Hypoaspis miles... harmless.

 

[Loc Dog]

Looks like broad mites to me, but maybe too big. I really needed to zoom in to see them. If they have front protrusions under much higher magnification. If they are broad mites everything will be garbage in a week.

This all happened to my entire grow within a week with broadmites -



http://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-broad-mites

 

[Blazeee]

Yep, avid/abenectim will kill broads. U can't see broads with just ur eyes though. And usually people notice bm's after a phantom def, such as cal or mg. If u use abenectim, use ppe, make a spray plan not to contaminate anything, and watch ur rei. Also u should have a safe way to exhaust.

I really wouldn't think a bulb mite would be on a leaf, but I'm no expert. Could maybe be h miles soil mite, in which case it shouldn't cause any probs. Can u count the legs?

Thanks for the response

I sprayed them down with the plant vitality the other night, made sure the room was well ventilated and i was wearing gloves + a mask.

Calculating back from when i got the cuts till now i dont think they are broadmites, if they were i think i would have lost the veg tent by now.

At first i thought it could have been a h miles soil mite until i saw them running up the stems and under a couple of the lower leaves. Once i saw that it kinda put me on edge.

Unfortunately i am unable to count the legs, the little fuckers move way too fast, best thing i could do was take a picture. I ended up taking multiple pics where i knew the pest was on the leaf but i visibly couldnt find it when zooming in on the camera.

Some of the plants got really badly burnt from the Dr Schimmels mite terminator that i had sprayed a few days before. Since then I have sprayed with the plant vitality the other day and i havent been able to say any of the pests on the plants / leaves etc, also made to spray the surface of the soil. I think i might follow up with another aplication of the plant vitality tonight or tomorrow and see how they get on.

I haven't got my glasses but it's looking like a young tick to me with my fuzzy eye sight

Thanks for taking a look Narstie, I havent seen any more of them since i sprayed down with the plant vitality, but i will be keeping a close eye on them.

Hypoaspis miles... harmless.

Thanks for having a look Scrappy, this is what i thought at first until i saw them running up the stems and under the lower leaves.

I thought id rather play it safe by spraying them down, just incase it wasnt a h miles, rather than just leaving them and having it come back and bite me in the arse a few weeks down the line etc.

Looks like broad mites to me, but maybe too big. I really needed to zoom in to see them. If they have front protrusions under much higher magnification. If they are broad mites everything will be garbage in a week.

This all happened to my entire grow within a week with broadmites -

[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=51120&pictureid=1680755&thumb=1]View Image[/url]

http://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-broad-mites

Thanks for your input Loc Dog, Ive seen your broadmite pics posted before. As i say i dont think that they are broadmites because if they were i wouldnt have been able to see them with my naked eye. And the amout of time that theyve been in the tent im sure they would have wiped the veg area out by now?

I sprayed them down with the plant vitality pro the other night, im going to follow up again tonight. However i checked the girls earlier and i haven't seen any more of them since they got hit with the plant vitality.

A few of the plants got really badly burnt a few days ago when i sprayed them down with the DR Schimmels mite terminator, so im not going to use that again, and hope that they recover from that.

 

[window]

I'm pretty sure that's spidermite dude, they are not always red with the two spots.
That plant vitality is good stuff, spray hard under the leaves and the top.

 

[Blazeee]

Thanks for taking a look window mate

I wasnt able to find any more earlier when i checked, however im going to spray them down again tonight and will continue spraying them down for another week or so until im confident that they are gone. Ive aso ordered some harka-mectin to follow up with just incase the plant vitality doesnt work.