need help to increase flavor and aroma

[baddagger]

hello all, been growing for a couple years and want to get better at the growing process of how to get the most flavor and aroma out of my girls. i know this is many variables to this part of growing. But i guess i more need to restart at the basics again .

what are the key elements in the nutrient department that i should start of with to give the girls what the need to have the ability to be able to produce better smell and flavor?

i know there are properly there are hundreds of different ideas on this factor but just want to restart from the beginning again to bring my quality to top notch.

i do know that curing and flush do have a impact and grow enviroments as well.

i also grow in soil and deep water culture hydro as well. so want to explore with both options.

 

[_tessarecting]

Youre right, there are countless factors! Your job is to balance them all to get that desired product. For flavor and aroma genetics, light, and environment are crucial. It sounds generalized but get a good cut or good seeds, new bulbs, and good environment with not a lot of stress and it should be good. Chop and hang for at least 4 days, bin, hand trim, cant go wrong.

 

[doob]

I find genetics the main factor, some you try really hard to lock a smell in, some you try hard to stop them smelling as they stink so bad

 

[Ghostdawg]

I say its genetics but when drying

Hang them up and dont box em till stem snaps...

Thats what i am gonna do...

 

[Mr. Organic]

Genetics, micro nutrients, root mass size, consistency in the feed regime and let them dry out completely between waterings.

 

[Phaeton]

I'm a chemical grower, nothing is used if it was not manufactured in a vat.
General Hydroponics three part, silicon phosphate, and phosphoric acid is everything, or rather, all they get. The media is rockwool croutons, pretty inert, it reminds me of fiberglass.
Not much aroma. Careful curing brings out some odor but it will never fill a room.

Some friends noticed a strain known for skunky stink and wondered why mine could barely be smelled.

My first effort was insect eating bat guano tea mixed two pounds to four gallons and let steep for several days then strained.
My system uses top flood and drain. The strained mix was added 8 oz per gallon to the reservoir along with 1/2 teaspoon per gallon epsom salts for the sulfur.

Soon the odor reached where my driveway meets the road, almost 300 feet from the house. Folks swore they got way more stoned than they did before.

I make extracts and the percentage of THC remained unchanged. Taking a deep breath through the curing jar was enough to make me feel stoned, but it was all placebo effect. Real nonetheless for being placebo, that was the most popular harvest I have ever done.

I did it twice then went back to my low odor chemicals, making tea made a mess and took time and effort my heart condition frowns on.

Soil grows and/or organic growing will give more aroma than other methods. Complex in, complex out.

 

[baddagger]

well i guess i should have given this info first. as for gentics i have a shit load of (seed junkie collecter here lol) For enviroment i am accutaly up grading now to a better room size... just put together a 7 feet wide by 11 feed deep grow room, and a 14 feet wide by 11 feet deep flower room. just waiting for my 48k btu ac system to be deliver and installed. have c02 for both rooms. in the grow room ill have about 4-5 k wats in lights and the flower room i be running 10-12k watts in lights.

as for gentics ice got stuff from alien gentics ( alien kush, alien grenades) , thc development (white fuel, white fighter). csi humboldt( purple urkel, purple dogbud, the grid og, medocino purple lurkle, ) and grape ape, also grand daddy purple. and a bunch of others...

 

[Scrappy-doo]

Genetics wise you will have some nice specimens in the mix. You made some excellent selections!

If the plant is fairly healthy throughout flower and you flush then harvest at the right time, the biggest factor for me with finished product has been the drying/curing process. Wait too long to jar it up it's too dry and doesn't cure, will not recover if it gets too dry. Jar it up too soon and the excess moisture can kill flavor and aroma unless you know how to sweat them out. Dry them in 60-65% humidity till the stems make a snapping sound when you bend them. Then in the jar for a day, burp the jar and feel the moisture level of buds. If too moist, out onto or into a brown bag till they dry a bit then back in the jar. Back and forth till they are ideal moisture level, then seal the jar an let'um cure.

For nutes, imo a good organic soil mix will give them everything they need to develop their full potential with little to no guesswork, but it can certainly be done right with chems if you have the eye and the thumb.

 

[baddagger]

oh got ghost train haze # 1 , mother of all berries (mob, or moab depending on who you talk to cause go by both) Purpel train wreck,

As for nuits i get my stuff from mbferts .. i use there

A and B grow and bloom
Early pk booster
Late pk booster
Hormone-Vitamin Booster
and i use a roots boots (cant think of the name ant from mbferts)

shoudl have also giving you guys that info lol.... umm idk if i need to change lines or take something out or if im missing anything.....

 

[baddagger]

oh and here is my list of seeds i do have not 100% up to date but mostly there

LIST
Apothecary seeds
Kush mix-r
Grape ape-r

Ace seeds
Malawi-f

-Auto Seeds-
Berry rider- F

-Barneys Farm-
Chronic Thunder-f
G13 haze-F
Sweet tooth- Auto Fem
Tangerine dream- F
BlimBurn Seeds
Grizzly purple kush-f
Northern auto -f
Super automatic-f
Tijuana-F

BC BUD DEPORT
The purps -reg


Big Budda Seeds
Blue Cheese-f


Cali Connection Seeds
Louis XIII og-f
Purple diesel-r
Grape og-f
Grape kush-f

CBD crew seeds
Shark-f
Skunk haze-f

CSI HUMBOLDT
Mendocino purple urkle
Purple rkle s1
Purple dogbud
The grid og

CH9 Seeds
Toxic Blue 33-f
Herijuana Jack 33-f
Jack-F
Delicious Seeds
Caramelo-f
Critical sensi start-f
Fruity chronic juice-f
sugar Candy-
Dinafem
Cheese-F
Critical- Auto fem
Fruity automatic -F
white widow xxl - auto fem

-DNA SEEDS -
91 krypt-r
Hitman og-r
Kush dreams -r
OG Grape Krypt-r
Fuego-F
Super lemon og-r
Sour Kosher –F
Florida gold
sour krypt-r
TAngilope-F

Dutch Passion
auto mazar -f

Elemental seeds
5th Element-f
chaos kush-f

Female seeds
Lemon kush-f
Purple Maroc-f

G13 Labs
Blue Venom-f
GigaBud-f
Blue OG-f
Cheese-f
Double Black-f
Pineapple express #2 -f
Sweet Amnesia



HEAVYWEIGHT
2 fast 2 vast- auto fem
Fast & vast-auto fem
Dream machine-f

Humboldt Seeds
Master kush-f
Amherst sour diesel-f

Humboldt seeds organization
707 truthband -f
Blueberry headband-f
Bubba's gift -f
ewe-2-f
trainwreck-f

hortilab seeds
Starbud-f

Granddaddy purple seeds
Grand daddy purp-r
Kens kush- r
Purple dream -r

Word of seeds
Amnesia auto –f
Afgan kush special-f
Northern lights x big bud –f
Northern lights x big bud-auto fem

GREEN HOUSE SEEDS
EXODUS CHEESE -F

MED-MAN BRAND
OG KUSH X td-R

NIRVANA SEEDS
Bubblelicous –auto fem

RESERVA PIVADA SEEDS
Tangie-r

SWEET SEEDS
Red poison- auto fem
Fast bud – auto fem
S.A.D – auto fem
Big devil xl –auto fem
Samsara seeds
Sweet black angel-f
Supersonic cristal storm –f

T H SEEDS
Original bubble gum-f

 

[square grouper]

don't harvest early,dont use excessive boosters,choose good genetics,cure properly ...

 

[hup234]

scrap all that gear and buy one of everything Bodhi...just kidding
(not really)

 

[Terpz]

Number one factor is genetics, no doubt. Feeding the stinky i.e. earthworm, guano and kelp teas during mid flower will help flavors and aromas. Proper flush and cure to round it out. Good luck!

 

[Daddysdank]

Don't forget ta throw some molasses on those flowering plants and I heard canna boost is great for adding flavor and smell but drying and curing the right way will deff be on the top of the list.

 

[MJPassion]

That's a hell of a seed list to choose from. chosing what to grow could prove to be a daunting task. Lol.

Get to popping beans...
Dont be afraid to cull bitches that dont perform to your desires after growing them out at least once. Every single plant is different.

Genetics are the #1 factor involved in terp production followed by nutrient regimen, imo.

 

[Mr. Organic]

What are you using for micro nutrients? for me that is a key element! that and letting the pots dry out between watering.

 

[baddagger]

nothing i guess, just been using that stuff, dont really use mag/cal much cause the water here has a good amount

 

[baddagger]

That's a hell of a seed list to choose from. chosing what to grow could prove to be a daunting task. Lol.

Get to popping beans...
Dont be afraid to cull bitches that dont perform to your desires after growing them out at least once. Every single plant is different.

Genetics are the #1 factor involved in terp production followed by nutrient regimen, imo.

lol well alot of the list is freebies trees...

but im going to be working with right now for the most part is

Purple train wreck (this one has the purple pheno keeped clones of it )
Alien grenades
Alien kush (f3's)

Mob/Moab (have it in clone)
purple urkle
purple dog bud

thc dev- white fuel ( white x rocket fuel i belive)
- white fighter (starfighter x white)

and working on getting my hands on getting gorilla glue and fpog