Need help, plant looking unhealthie

[JainyGG]

Hi!!

My plant is looking sad for some reason. It's in Day 6 of VEG. Today her leaves were hanging low and I gave her water, until it leaked out of the bottom. Since then it didn't got any better / got even worse?! (not sure about that) There is lots of air circulation around the plant. Like you can see, the leaves are looking brownish and the new leaves start looking the same way too, the leaves looked healthy in the first place. The plant is growing quite alot.
I didn't give any nutes yet and it's in BioBizz Allmix.
Lights for VEG are two 10W 6500k LED's. 24/0 is the light cycle. Humidity is between 30% and 45%, temperature at about 25°C(77F)
The water ph is between 6.0 and 7.0
Someone got an idea what is going on? It's my first grow and I am a total newb, but this doesn't look healthie to me.
What can cause this?
Thanks for your help and excuse my bad englisch!
If you need any further Information, just ask please!

Pictures: http://imgur.com/a/CssDm

 

[Granger2]

They got too dry, and the damage will not heal. New growth looks good. Good luck. -granger

 

[JainyGG]

Hey!

Thanks for the answer!! You sure about that? Everyone says that newbs are always overwatering so I was definitly super careful with watering and waited till it got quite dry.
The leaves above the first two are having brown dots on them too, and they got enough water I am pretty sure.

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

They got too dry, and the damage will not heal. New growth looks good. Good luck. -granger

Solid advice! Always listen to Granger! Lol

You don't want the soil to be bone dry. You want to still feel I little moisture with your finger an inch or two below the surface, before you water. Once they root container, you can keep them a little bit more wet.

 

[JainyGG]

Solid advice! Always listen to Granger! Lol

Hey, I am pretty new to this board, are you making fun, or is Granger making fun of me?

 

[Vanilla Phoenix]

No no, nobody is making fun. Seriously just trying to help. And WELCOME TO ICMAG!

 

[biologic]

The soil might be too harsh for her?

 

[JainyGG]

what does the soil is too hot mean? like temperature? the grow room temperture is at about 25°C, soil should be at the same temp round about.

 

[biologic]

There might be some sort of root damping off happening in your medium.

 

[corky1968]

I suggest you go to 18 hours of light to give your seedlings a little resting time.

Everyday, there's another post of somebody pushing the tiny plants made from
seeds way too hard out from the gate and then they wonder what happened.

Some people may argue with me on this. But to me the first
2 weeks of a plant life from seed is to be taken gently.

 

[JainyGG]

Okay, I will switch from 24/0 to 18/6, it wont hurt i guess. I am kind of scared of destroying the plant entirely by revealing it roots, but i will try to do that. will update you guys with pictures!

Thx for all the answers so far! Much appreciated!!

 

[JainyGG]

Ah, regarding aircirculation, there is 2 12 Volt Vans pushing air in and one pig 12V van sucking air out, that should be plenty enough

 

[corky1968]

Okay, I will switch from 24/0 to 18/6, it wont hurt i guess. I am kind of scared of destroying the plant entirely by revealing it roots, but i will try to do that.

I personally say leave the soil alone. Revealing the roots isn't going to help I don't think.

1. If the roots are fine. Your wasting your time.
2. If the roots are bad. What will exposing supposed to do again?

Actually, adding a bit of extra soil up the stem as high as you can without
touching the leaves will cause the plant to produce new roots along it's
stem if the plant is somewhat healthy.

Like of the way a cutting will root. Just spray a tiny amount
of water directly on the stem each day to moisten this new
soil only and it will happen. Don't flood the pot.

Good Luck

 

[JainyGG]

Hey,

here is a quick look on the roots, didn'T loose any soil that was around, is it looking okay? I wonder why so many roots all the way at the bottom, maybe a sign for that she was searching for water? And a picture of how she is looking right now. Any further ideas?

@corky i will add some soil on top! Let's see how it works out.

Thanks so far guys! Very helpfull. You guys should know I did a ton of research before starting, yet there is so much complication. Growing ain't that easy.

http://imgur.com/a/uCnZp

 

[JainyGG]

What I want to add, you can see that on the leaves that are above the very brown ones, they get somewhat brown dots on the tips too and have some very light green areas. Maybe that helps with identifying the problem and I think that is how it started with the first leaves..

 

[corky1968]

Roots are supposed to go down. It doesn't take long for even a
small plant's root to get to the bottom when things are good.

Those roots look pretty darn dry. Next time you lift roots out of
a pot. Spray a little water on them immediately and always keep
roots moist when exposed to air. Dry roots in open air die fast.

You could pull them up real fast and spray them good if you really wanted.
Otherwise add water until it run out of the pot and leave the plant alone for
a few days. Other than the soil thing and light misting to initiate new roots
that I mentioned.

Don't feed too heavily either.

 

[JainyGG]

Hey!

I just did that, sprayed it with water and gave it a good watering, put some soil ontop of it and back into the room. Let's see what happens, gonna switch from 24/0 to 18/6 tonight.

 

[Granger2]

Not making fun.

I have no idea why anyone would think the roots are rotting away. Definitely NOT Damping Off fungal disease. Your roots look good. White's where it's at. You told us they got too dry. That's what caused the leaf damage. You're going to do what Corky said. That should help them grow out of it. Keep us informed. Good luck. -granger

 

[JainyGG]

Hey you guys thanks for the awesome help once again!
I might have made another mistake, not sure.
I bought this product for lowering the pH level of my water.

https://www.sera.de/en/products/in_category/schritt-2-phkh-senken-5596/product/sera-ph-minus.html

Now as you can see, it also somehow adjusts the carbonate hardness of the water, might that be a problem too? I didn't realize until now. I couldn't find out about the ingredients and wasn't able to compare it to the ingredients of other ph-down brands.

I will definitly keep you updated how she is doing!

 

[corky1968]

Hey you guys thanks for the awesome help once again!
I might have made another mistake, not sure.
I bought this product for lowering the pH level of my water.

https://www.sera.de/en/products/in_category/schritt-2-phkh-senken-5596/product/sera-ph-minus.html

Now as you can see, it also somehow adjusts the carbonate hardness of the water, might that be a problem too? I didn't realize until now. I couldn't find out about the ingredients and wasn't able to compare it to the ingredients of other ph-down brands.

I will definitly keep you updated how she is doing!

Don't you have hydroponic gardening store in you area?
They have the proper pH up and down chemicals. I don't
know much about what you bought so do go real slow with
it if you use it.

If the pH of your water is between 6 and 7 don't bother
messing with it. Your plant is already stressed enough.