'Mystical' strain recommendations

[nksv]

Greetings all

After some 'mystical' type strains. I am fairly new to growing and the reason really is for 'shamanic' (sorry to sound cheesy) uses etc. enter the realms!

Running some ace gear, loving the Zamaldelica. Pretty new to breeders etc but also looking at Bodhi strains. I have popped some Bodhi seeds that were hurt by thrips and recovering now. ACE pamana and more Zamaldelicas on the way...

I've read nepalese strains have this theme but my nep jams went male unfort.

Should I just keep running the ACE gear and shut up with fancy strain names? There's just so much out there with the Bodhi stuff that sounds amazing and I feel I am getting a little addicted to growing and trying strains now! haha

Recommendations / advice super appreciated!

 

[Numinous1]

Hi mate,

I recommend Oaxacan it is serious stuff, a sacrament, sure it is party stuff at first, but cure for a good 6+ months and it is terrifying and I've done lots of psychedelics, I have not done the zamaldelica (got it running now) but I have done the ACE malawi and it was in another realm compared to that (PS I read sam skunkman doesn't believe in any cure over 3 months but I have had it a year old and it was very scary, not recreational at all).
People here seem to like Flo for meditational purposes, but also some plain landrace indicas can give you total mindfulness type experiences, just totally in the moment etc at the other end of the spectrum

 

[Big-Narstie]

Oxaxaon, Malawi are both on my list.

Just for my natural curiosity I'm guessing your growing these under strong sun or were they grown under artificial light?

Many thanks and Atb for the future bro's

 

[nksv]

I was just reading about the Oax. Reason i mentioned bodhi as I'm now looking for possible hybrids as I'm running pure sats. I was wondering whether indicas could also get esoteric.

Curing. Fuck. The zamaldelica after a good cure literally had my astral body trying to escape! I'm also smoking some of those unkown skunkman mixed freebies. 2 look pure sats, one gave me a brief instant of shroom vibe! Brief though. So im breeding her with a zamaldelica thai leaning male. Can't wait for that one!

For some reason I'm not feeling drawn to malawi. Sounds great though.

Big Nar - under lights but researching and working on strains that will work well under my conditions. I like to experiment and find th3 magic!

Thanks comrades!

 

[nksv]

Forgot to ask: best source for Oaxacan seeds?

 

[Numinous1]

Big-Narstie, They were grown under the sun, not in the tropics though. bout 35 sth had to finish them in the green house, but mold comes every year, gotta keep an eye out. I did notice any strains that I ran under lights matured better but were substantially weaker to me?

Note outdoor vs lights for sativa, every time I notice that even when I pull them early outside when mold strikes, they can still be forming new white pistils and yet every time they end up with heaps of amber trichs when dried, I reckon the suns UV just turns them amber more completely and quickly. Is it converting to CBN I don't know, but it sure doesn't couch you, it just floors your brain. I have heard the old tales of the amber trich sativas being particularly dangerous, but it seems any plant ambers more quickly to me.


nksv,
The zamal certainly is the beast capable of delivering the goods. This struck me as interesting in one of the zamaldelica threads. I experienced the wave phenomena on the Oaxacan, to me it was like a wave passed through my consciousness, not through my visual field, but through my being! This was mushroom like stuff to me, It did not even feel like cannabis anymore. I think that is what this guy means by carried by a wave.
Unfortunately it was given to me as a gift, but I understand CBG has some variants which should be good.
The plant I had I lost, but I crossed it to a thai at least. It had a 180 degree spread on the leaf pattern, very elegant and slender, my favorite to look at leaf I have ever seen.

Xinox - "...first time i try it, i just look at the street through the window and i literally bug on it..." "you have some kind of slight stroboscopic effect. Then you feel some waves in your body, like you are carry in a wave. We also try this weed at 5 on my vaporizer and the conclusion of the assembly was clear that this weed is heavy shit..." "The high is strong but also very clear, it's indeed very psychedelic and long lasting. This pheno is almost hallucinatory, with some very visuel kind of effects. I'm quiet sure that this weed could easily paralyze a beiginner."

 

[AeroKush102]

Forgot to ask: best source for Oaxacan seeds?

Cannabiogen Seeds. The strain is hard to find but is still lurking around.

I have grown Zamaldelica and Malawi. Zamaldelica has different fathers in its gene parental stock so you get a wide variety of terp profiles and etc. Certain phenos to me were "medicinal only" and had no use in the recreational world. I did find a tropical "cherry" pheno that created the best daytime smoke that money could buy. Everyone raved about it, I didn't keep it. Some phenos of Zamal would make me feel like I had to way too much coffee with a crazy almost at your limit to being drunk beer buzz.

Malawi is haze. Some extreme haze with a unique terp profile. Don't expect all to be keepers, most will interest you to try it again, so I wouldn't germinate a lot at one time. Malawi yields well. Zamal is good, and better than most but not like Malawi, which is capable of having Coke bottled sized buds. Both need curing to experience its full potential, in which you should be asking, "why am I doing this"?

Anyways, I have seeds of Oaxacan via Cannabiogen. I haven't gotten to that yet...

 

[MJPassion]

I am getting a little addicted to growing and trying strains now!

Smoking weed may not be addictive but growing it sure is!

If looking at Bodhi, keep in mind that he is no longer making the Appalachian & Snow Lotus crosses. If you want them, get them while you can.

Possibly consider varieties used by the Sadhis.

 

[Koondense]

Forgot to ask: best source for Oaxacan seeds?

E$ko

 

[nksv]

I love hearing about the super out of ordinary experiences people get from these strains.

The Zamaldelica I have was my first grow with her. The euphoria from it is incredible. I grabbed a 10 pack from ACE as I am totally in love with that strain now.

Out of interest what is the difference between the Bodhi strains and ACE? Why are the Appalachian & Snow Lotus crosses recommended? Would they send me into mystical omfg realm? haha. Thing is I can get more bang for my buck ordering from ACE as opposed to Bodhi. I should also mention, I am working small scale so pheno hunting is not really something I have the space for...unfortunately.

I'm on the hunt for the Oaxacan now! I'll no doubt be ordering from ACE again so will try Malawi. I've also read great things from the Mandala strains, Satori etc...

OH man, growing is totally addictive.

 

[yesum]

I am there with you nksv, looking for the magic. I had it 41 years ago, so I know it exists. Mexican, most likley Michoacan brown, that gave me a 20 or 30 minute shroom ride.

I just finished Eskobar's Oaxacan and Jalisco. The Oaxacan is trippy in that it makes things appear brighter, colors I mean. The Jalisco might be more trippy though, but not visual as in brighter colors. I feel to be lost in a fog with it, hazy I guess? It feels more contented than the Oaxacan so far. Felt as though I was sitting on a cloud last night. When I say lost, I do not mean that far gone, just nicely hazed out I would say. Almost appears to be smoke hanging in the air, hard to describe.

As said the Oaxacan can be a little intense if overdone. Of course there are more than one Oaxacan, as that is a large state in Mexico, not a strain.

I also have the Zameldelica 5 pack. Have a pack of Nepalese from Oregon Green Seeds. They have a Oaxacan x Iranian, have that too. My CBG Nepalese failed to germ.

Punto Rojo and Mangobiche from CBG get good reviews for trip weed. Have both of those too. Bodhi has Acapulco Gold freebies with the Yunnan. Chimera has a few Highland Mexican x Blueberry at Italian bank. Have those too.

I would use white light not hps and maybe uvb and high Kelvin light to finish. Am having good results with it so far. Turn the lights off when tent is open though.

 

[nksv]

Thanks for chipping in yesum.

I was just trying to find word on those Eskobar strains, so I appreciate the feedback on those.

Oh yeah, the magic is there for sure. The Zamaldelica certainly has it for me. I've got some ACE panama coming. The chimera HMBB looks very interesting as well as Oaxacan x Iranian - have you sampled those?

A friend gave me a few cuts of those Sam Skunkman mixed hazes, they were freebies a while back. I have three different strains, no idea what they are though! One is a mango smelling beauty. Pretty trippy. I wish I knew what they were but they're quite good. However, that Zamaldelica really has a 'special' presence.

Have you tried strains like Satori, Chocolate Trip etc?

 

[yesum]

No, only have the beans but coming up soon. I tried Chill-OM from Mandala but did not find what I wanted in it. Not a bad strain, just not too content or trippy or whatever. Rishi Kush too, not quite my cup of tea. Have some Skunkman freebies in the fridge, but many other strains to go before that happens.

I have been growing indicas or hybrids mostly, just lately got bored and feeling tired a lot, so moving to sativas. I found Grandaddy Purple to be quite trippy for a 'indica'.

 

[nksv]

anything that's come close to your experience 41 years ago?

 

[geneva_sativa]

Real Seed Co might be another idea to check into . . . as MJPassion suggest, maybe some old school lines straight from the Himalaya, or some manna of the desert tribes !

 

[yesum]

anything that's come close to your experience 41 years ago?

No, but i have just started growing a lot of sativas and Mexicans in particular. Early days yet. This was my first harvest of Mexican and mostly sativa plants.

I know that high may be impossible cause that was grown in mountains of Mexico and I growing in a closet. The genetics of that time may never come around to me. I think I can get close enough to that high though, that I will be happy.

I had some Hawaiian in 85 or so that was trippy in a bit of a different way. 1 small hit and I saw the edges of stuff shimmer. 5 hits and I was in a hazy cloud and could not move or think. I preferred the Mexican though, felt as if I was on mars. Maybe I was?

 

[nksv]

Yep, I have looked into those Himalayas from RSC. Would love to know a little more if anyone has tried them? - Pretty cheap to!

 

[nksv]

ha! yesum - we're def in the same boat bro! I am hoping to do some outdoor if I can. I'll have to get some mexican going. That bodhi deal with the free A.Gold looks pretty good....damn these choices.

 

[MJPassion]

I love hearing about the super out of ordinary experiences people get from these strains.

The Zamaldelica I have was my first grow with her. The euphoria from it is incredible. I grabbed a 10 pack from ACE as I am totally in love with that strain now.

Out of interest what is the difference between the Bodhi strains and ACE? Why are the Appalachian & Snow Lotus crosses recommended? Would they send me into mystical omfg realm? haha. Thing is I can get more bang for my buck ordering from ACE as opposed to Bodhi. I should also mention, I am working small scale so pheno hunting is not really something I have the space for...unfortunately.

I'm on the hunt for the Oaxacan now! I'll no doubt be ordering from ACE again so will try Malawi. I've also read great things from the Mandala strains, Satori etc...

OH man, growing is totally addictive.

You said you were considering Bodhi in your very first post so I made the comment I did because Bodhi is no longer working with those parents.

I don't see how Ace will give you more bang for your buck! Bodhi seeds are priced very competitively.

There's not a pack of seeds on this earth that you will not find at least one plant you like better than the rest of that pack. Is that not pheno hunting?

To expect stellar results from every seed is nonsensical.
Clarify what you really mean, please.

 

[nksv]

Please excuse the confusion MJ, I'm fairly new to the strain/ breeder side of things so I'm proabably, most definitely, going to say ignorant things. I just questioned why you mentioned those bodhi strains as i just wanted to know more. I've heard good things about goji oj. So i just wanted to know if they related to the request for 'mystical' strains. Which, if so, I'll be checking out!

The pheno hunt is 'limited' for me. So my being here is asking for peoples experiences might help guide me without being too overwhelmed! (Which i already am!) Haha

I'm just really in this thread to seek knowledge on the more shamanic/mystical (not so much trippy as there is a thread that covers that perfectly) strains and I'm pretty much a beginner in understanding strains related to this. ...

Bodhi prices are good but for my location ace is better price wise. That includes post etc. I'm a poor bastard. Haha.