my substitution urine test

[happyherb]

well then.....what a head fuck !

**sorry for the long post**


been reading these sort of threads for months...even started a file in my favorites to gather info and help jog my memory collecting threads here and there that have some useful info in it...and found substitution of my own pee to be the best deal for me...
......used some small glass containers with plastic screw to lids many months ago(4-5?) when i hadn't smoked for months..filled with pee and froze! (knew it was clean cause i went to the doctors off my own back for 2 months and got tested and was negative both times)

a little info on my situation- got court ordered in family court to have pee tests every 3 months...my silly ex played as many games as she could in court and the smoking of MJ was one of them...she never had a problem EVER in the past with me smoking it and probly still dosn't have an issue ..but!...can use it as ammo in court so she wouldn't loose any of "her" pension if i got the kids extra time...so in short her plan worked ...and after court...she turned around and gave me the kids about as much as i was asking for in court...but mentioned..."you can have them...but i dont tell the government so i wont loose any of "my" pension "...

well i was supposed to have this test done ages ago but was told when i phoned the testing place it would cost me about $116 !!!! so i havnt been able to see my kids cause i didnt have the cash and didnt do it in the 24 hour period when i was notified ...so ive been saving and had the money yesterday to get it done...
only thing...once i finally got paid after waiting all day for the cash i needed to go into the bank(refresh,refresh ect all morning of internet bank page wating for it to go in)...went and got cash out of the bank....came back home..warmed my pee in a cup of boiled water.. i let the pee "naturally defrost" early that morning(just let it stand in room temp until it defrosted...will also add..there was "bits" in it at 1st but as i read on another forum...don't worry they dissolve...and they did)
...my thermometer wont read over 42 deg c so i got it to that mark(ready for my 20 minute walk to the place)...and done some tests all morning(with water and pee bottle) and could see i had more than 20 minutes until it may go cold if my body temp down my pants didn't keep temp properly?

now....i picked this place cause i knew only 2 women worked there and thought i could get away without being supervised? ...lol...
...on a side note.. i had been real nice with my ex and went with her to this place to hold her hand in support while she had a couple blood tests done 2 different times...she has a phobia with needles and even after all this court shit i was more than nice enough too go past that and help her with the tests for her health sake and i was asked cause she knows i'll make her get it done...as i did with all the tests done with both our kids through her pregnancy ...anyhoo....

got up to the test place yesterday...sat outside...went to temp test...and ...lol...thermometer went on the blink for the 1st time????...ahhh stuff it should be good i'll go in...

lol...grrrrrr they closed 2 hours before lol grrrrr.(who closes half way through the day?..ahhh i should have known/checked)..what a let down after all that..try again tomorrow(today)

so oh?...i do have more piss in the freezer...but i don't want to waste it....so i placed pee in the fridge until this morning...so was thinking???? that was a bit less than about 24 hours since i "naturally defrosted" it...so thought would be good ?...will see hey?

got up early today...heated pee...and set out to get it done...

took a seat at the buss stop outside...went to take the temp....grrrr 2nd time on the blink...no reading....what is it with this stupid thing?leave the house and it dont work? hahahaha...ahhhh stuff im going in

when i got in there it was a little busy and i had 4 ppl in front of me (man! is my piss gona be too cold?)

so my turn comes...here we go...then find out (1)...they dont have the proper kit for the official test...(2) ive never had photo ID but was told on the phone weeks before that should be ok if the ID i had was all i had... (3) then they keeped going on about paper work?... paper work? there isnt any...and wont be any...ive just been told i have to do this! (lets just do the fukn test grrrr hehehe)

well i wouldn't take no for an answer(nicely thou)...i wanted the test done now/today...so told the sobb story...even said "if being degraded peeing in a cup for a test isnt enough in the 1st place...now i cant even do it !" (thought that part "degraded" may help if i wanted to say if they were gona supervise it i had shy bladder or they may just give me a break?)

so in the end we are work'n it out...(and i hope its enough for the ex/family court.. cause it isnt the "official test" but basically the same..) she was in and out of the private room i was in(are we doing it in here i thought...no toilet in here?...its around the corner?)

so start to think again about the already known downfall of my "supervised" test and being a substituted test .... the best container i could find held just a little more than needed but was a "screw top lid" that needed a few turns and all along i thought could/will look suss (and hoped in my planning for some chance to take the lid of but thought it wouldnt happen)

.....so as she in and out the room on the phone checking with head office about how we do this minus the proper kit/the paper work that didnt exist/and no photo ID....

i decided too un zip my fly and masturbate...no no no just kidding

...unscrew the lid!....so what i was about to do looked more natural...funny thing was after i did it she came back in the room and she says "sorry about all this ...take a seat" lol noooooo...(i had just been sitting before this but was up after getting my ID out)..i said "no im ok my back kills"(which it always dose..but)..."i need some pills..i recon" and got my pain killers out and took some...and keeped standing lol...cause i didnt want pee all over me

****what i did yesterday when i thought i was gona do it****...i wore a pair of jocks...and over the top of them i wore a pair that i sewed like a little pocket(made from t-shirt material) in the front of my jocks that would fit my little 80ml bottle but be a loose fit so it could move side to side with ease...the "pocket" made it so it was sitting up right...so while standing up if i looked down i would see the lid..get it?

so now im lead to the toilet...didnt know what the toilet room was like before i got there...but..was sorta big.. but i was in a corner with her on my left and a wall on my right and the toilet attached to a wall in front of me(so she couldn't stand in front of me...only to my left)
....i get handed a pair of rubber gloves and she puts some on too(ahh shit am i gona be able to work this with these stupid gloves on?) but i had already read about this on there site while researching this all the best i could and read that this is done.

...i knew with my left hand i'd pour the bottle(that could twist in its pocket) ...hold pee jar in my right and pour

....as i was doing it something kicked it and pushed past my thought as i was shitting my jocks and i thought about making it look real with me looking like i was getting my penis out and getting a flow started and making the flow look good....as i was doing it she got real close and put her head just about right over the top of it all!....but... must have looked all good to her?? she didn't say a word about my black(im white) tubular plastic penis...

i put the jar down on the top of the toilet ...made it look like i was putting my penis back in my jocks...picked up the jar and shitting jocks kicked back in and spilled a bit of piss around with my shaking hands after the worst of it all was done ... put lid back on....she taped up the jar with masking tape ?(guess proper stuff would be in the proper kits...that there getting more in for next time)

we went back to the 1st room and at no point was it tested for its temp(but sure it would be with proper test kit)...she singed the masking tape...then got me to do it....and cause it wasn't the proper test....and just a normal test(though still supervised) that it was free...well that was pretty good news and $116 back in my poor pocket...

so now i just hope the pee was good but will find out monday...and that the ex is happy with the paper work she gets...if so?...i'd say its all worked out pretty much 100% !!!

so in the mean time in between now and the next test im going to look at other bottles / methods to make this easier with no unscrewing lids...but all the other types of caps i had weren't "natural" looking flow/sounding or easier to use
..a finger of a new "washed" rubber glove instead of the lid over the top of the bottle didn't work right using the bottle (with a slit or even the tip cut off)...using the bottle upside down with the tip of the bottle hanging out of the previously mentioned modified jocks...but instead of sitting up...had it upside down coming out of a slit i made with the glove finger poking out...just need to adjust this a bit rather than use a totally different method that ive already read about like using a condom ect



sorry for the long post...but thought the whole ordeal hehehe.... step by step may help others plan better or think of the types of things that can come up and all in all gives more info than "i did the test!" sort of post..

i must spend a moment which hadn't really over the years reading these threads not think'n i have to do all this ...a big good luck to all that do these tests...learn the skill to grow...now gota learn a new skill in scamming tests ...never thought i'd have to do these myself(didn't even have to do it with court when i got busted with a fuck load of plants and walked away with no jail time).....just glad i finally got it done and it over until next time.HH. =]-~

 

[Marshmello]

I used to use a Travel Sized shampoo/liq. soap bottle.
3oz. is more than enough & the flip cap is easy.
Also, if the temp is too cold when you pour into the cup,
rub your thumb vigorously on the TEMP STRIP of the cup.
The friction will cause heat and raise the strip temp to 96+
within the acceptable range.

 

[hazy]

WTF?
The woman watched??!
I thought only the court pee test guys did that. Where I've gone for per-employment tests and dot tests, they don't watch. They send you into a bathroom and you close the door.
Take it out and pour it in, no worries.

I get freaked out at the possibility of doing these tests, esp about the temp holding. Good to know that about the temp strips

 

[happyherb]

i like the temp gauge tip...K+...though she was right in my face it could be done with my nerves and all ?..

yea i may have to go shopping(australia) and just look at bottles...only thing i dont like about squesing the bottle is the noise it can make with the plastic cracking when pushed sound and a possible suction sound after ive pushed out the pee...well with what ive tryed so far

more practice and playing around with it all....and posts like yours...i'll get something better working that i can feel safer with.

thanks for your input MM .HH. =]-~

 

[happyherb]

WTF?
The woman watched??!
I thought only the court pee test guys did that. Where I've gone for per-employment tests and dot tests, they don't watch. They send you into a bathroom and you close the door.
Take it out and pour it in, no worries.

I get freaked out at the possibility of doing these tests, esp about the temp holding. Good to know that about the temp strips

yea this was a court ordered as per my final court orders...

thought i could scam it with two women there but no...she was right next to me and i was ..cool...im subbing it...if it works its all legal and supervised so 100% shows im clean....but was a bit like WTF when she put her head right over the top of my wee wee spot

i was pretty freaked for sure...and now see what others are talking about..just wanted to get the whole story out there to maybe make "another thread" that ppl may come across and find some help....cause it gets confusing reading all this stuff..HH. =]-~

 

[Marshmello]

No prob brotha.
Try and find one that has a larger sized hole=no squeezing=no squishing.
If not an option, fill it with water & practice!
If being watched, I would suggest picking the cup up with the temp strip under your thumb.
I only had to do this twice, but, I was never watched & did it before I left the bathroom.
Obviously would be harder(pun intended) with her watching.

Also, I would warm it up on the Car Defroster for awhile on the drive to the office.
Hope this helps!
Peace

 

[happyherb]

"I would suggest picking the cup up with the temp strip under your thumb."

ahhh good idea..will try that if my temp gauge goes on the blink again before the test like its done twice so far before the test...

well.... went and picked up the test today....im sorta happy but sorta not...

i passed!(but i knew i would)...but...my creatinine lvl was low...says the level should be 2.0 mmol/L or above and mine was 1.7 mmol/L

and says- " a urine creatinine below 2.0 suggests that this specimen may be unusually diluted.the possibility of excessive water intake prior to collection of the specimen,should be considered.recollection of another specimen may be appropriate "

well cause i was subbing it ...it wasnt me on the day drinking heaps of water...but on any gived day i do drink ALOT..

so i know on the day when i collected enough for about 6 tests i drank and drank to get enough pee before i had a smoke...

so now i know when taking a pee collection next time "while clean" i should maybe take the 1st pee of the day..over a few days before smoking again to get enough for many more tests and then freeze them.

so i will know i hope in the next couple of days when my ex looks at the test(its been delivered) if she will do the right thing or just be plain picky and an asshole and reject the test?....funny though with over 30 years of my life shes the only one that ever commented on how much i drink...which again is ALOT....so i hope she just thinks "happy" is just drinking alot of fluid as usual ?

so bit by bit im getting this pee test...just got to work on it more..

i'll keep adding to this when its appropriate...got more tests to come over time..

hope this all helps someone a bit later down the track when they do one of these tests .HH. =]-~

 

[Lord Doobie]

absolutely weird...she looked? LMAO!
sounds like the freezing somehow changed the molecular structure and watered it down
you can't just pee in a container up to the rim so no air gets in then seal & refrigerate it?

 

[happyherb]

absolutely weird...she looked? LMAO!
sounds like the freezing somehow changed the molecular structure and watered it down
you can't just pee in a container up to the rim so no air gets in then seal & refrigerate it?

yup lol she looked ...maybe i looked suss?...maybe she wanted me bad? duno but she didnt see shit..but i saw the back of her head as she took a real quick look but i'd finished poring the pee by then.

yea i wondered about the freezing?...it is possible..but think maybe its the amount i drank on the day of taking my samples...and it just diluted it just like if i drank a lot on a test day and peed normally ?

think next time i get samples i'll use the same containers they use for the sample there...found they sell them at the chemist and they are sterile and have pretty tight lids..

also did some searching of medical supplies and was looking at quick on/off one handed plastic clamps...and seen you can buy those type of drip bags in lots of sizes....so thinking of building something similar to a product ive found...like the wizinator type of thing but simpler ....even looked at micro pumps...but have no idea being there are different ones what would work and 2nd getting one thats not noisy?

on a note about the clamps...if anyone that reads this is in the medical field let me know...i'd like to identify a clamp on a product but can only find similar ones...and i dont know how the other ones react when opened?....may just have to buy a whole heap of different ones and see what works best?
dont know...but something plastic tube like would be better than a bottle and easyer and safer i recon?

ive got to do a few of these test over time...so if i build something that works i'll post some pics ect...

they shouldnt fuk with stoners hahahaha cause we will come up with some strange shit and it will probly work .HH. =]-~

 

[shawkmon]

I used to use a Travel Sized shampoo/liq. soap bottle.
3oz. is more than enough & the flip cap is easy.
Also, if the temp is too cold when you pour into the cup,
rub your thumb vigorously on the TEMP STRIP of the cup.
The friction will cause heat and raise the strip temp to 96+
within the acceptable range.

good call, karate kid that sucker, get yer hands rubbed together real fast like mr meagi and heat that strip, nice, never thought of that

 

[happyherb]

well a bit of an update-

dropped of the test to the ex in her letter box.....no reply...next day sent TXT message letting her know test is there and do i get to see the kids?....no reply....then rang the next day...

ahhhhhh shes such a nut job! yup i picked her i know lol

she got all high and mighty "oh no you cant see the kids" (but i know either way she would say that..cause she said that even before i had the test) the test needs to be done again it says...(no it says no drugs in my system but cause of the creatinine lvl's are low it "may" be appropriate for re collection)

her final words where see you in court...my final words where "fuk you" hehehe ya should have said "have a nice" but....

rang the courts...they say the orders can be interperedted 2 ways so its a tough one! (bloody judge took a month to give us the orders in the 1st place cause she had to re word it cause she totally fuked it up...didnt do a proper job hey?)

rang a free legal service they said she looks to be in contravention of the order...so going back to courts the only way...

...so yea seeing a lawyer on monday to get paper work done and put into the courts

** also rang the head office of the place that did the testing...and talked to a lady in the lab....long story short.
..she started to tell me test would not have even looked normal...oh yes it did she says (says that on the test...appearance= normal)(normal? normal color? yellow ? yes because i already take vitamin b everyday and took half a dose/half a pill so it wasnt clear from all the peeing to get many tests for freezing)
i asked if i had ANY drugs in my system would it have shown up?..."if ya had a pain killer it would have shown up!"

your test is clean...your not on drugs..but the creatinine lvl was down by .3 of what it should have been and that dosnt mean your on drugs....i said i read up on creatinine lvls to get an answer if all humans are the same?...she said no matter how much "research" you do ya wont find an answer...

ya must have drunk waaaaay to much...no i said ...2-3 coffees 600mls of water thats it!...oh she says.. well...ummm...errr...hmmmm...i dont know?

she was confused by the result
...as im writing this i thought i should have asked it to be re tested if that would make a difference?...but i doubt it?

so yea no smoking for me....and will re collect some more...but done 1st pee every morning (so its as good as my body can make) until i have enough for a year of testing..

i hope when it gets to court the judge tells her shes a trouble maker...but im sure there all less educated on the results of tests than i am and say "ya didnt pass"...duno? will see...HH. =]-~

 

[good drown]

i have a fast metabolism and could stop smoking 2 days before a drug, but i had to drink a shitload of water the day of, and alot the day before. take 2 multivitamins 2 hours before the test. on the way there, i would a drink a creatine body builder shake. the vitamins made my pee yellow, the creatine, well makes up for your lack of becaause the water

 

[happyherb]

i have a fast metabolism and could stop smoking 2 days before a drug, but i had to drink a shitload of water the day of, and alot the day before. take 2 multivitamins 2 hours before the test. on the way there, i would a drink a creatine body builder shake. the vitamins made my pee yellow, the creatine, well makes up for your lack of becaause the water

thanks man..

yea vitamin b makes it go yellow too...and sometimes toooo yellow (which im sure they'ed then complain about that and fail me lol)(which i also read about that and took less that normal dose to make pee look normal) i take it every day to try and help with very low energy lvls...dont help really ...

and have thought about the creatinine body builder shakes too...but dont know if i could test my self for the lvl's? if way too high probly fail me too....but even the smallest amount on pee collection day would have fixed my low lvls...easly fixed that .3 below there allowed 2.0 (mine was 1.7 )

lol the substitution worked lol..but my lvl was low...what luck...but i know why..

...i mean it was lie to the lab lady..saying i only had a small amount to drink on test day...cause pee was stored months ago...in the middle of the day(and would have been weak..but NO ONE said "ya have to do it in the morning...like doctors say ya should for ANY test to get the best pure results)

...i drink a lot of coffee normally ...so had peed many many times that day(collection day...not test day)....then wanted a cone bad(as we know great pain killer and relaxant) (hadnt smoked for many months before that...and knew i'd be getting tested down the track and was staying clean for that and now if wanted to smoke needed get samples).....

.....so drank coffee and water ...like ltrs of it in an hour to collect say...500 mls (and put into separate small containers)...before i could smoke...

i did the SUB method instead of trying to flush my system...thinking...test costs over $100 if i fuk it...i'll have to wait ...come up with more cash and get it done again...so SUBBED pee was the safest bet....

yea i have a fast metabolism too and could have maybe? passed the way you mention (ive done so much reading but chose subbing it)...

next time i should pass if i dont get busted doing it....buuuut dosnt help now..

just gave even more fuel for the ex to throw on the fire...took me longer than it was supposed too get the test done(so my 1st fuk up)(had to be done with in 24 hours of a txt message saying go do it) and i took longer cause i didnt have the cash...yup im poor and had to save..

but in court the judge sorta said if i fail...i dont get to see the kids...i have to keep re testing until clean THEN i can see my sons(but i didnt fail! i was late...and a stupid lvl suggests they "may" want to test again...but in the orders didnt write THAT into the orders...grrrrr ....so interpretation for us non lawyer/judge kicks in and well she wants to be nasty and takes the route she has taken...no contact with the kids....

if the ex said "the sky is purple today like everyday" and i disagreed....she would have a problem....so i never win...SHES ALWAYS RIGHT!!!...HH. =]-~

 

[good drown]

i feel for you bro, i hate it when the ex get kids involved to play her games.
so are you waiting to see what the judge says? if so do not bring up anything about the test unless he asks, then just say i drink alot of water everyday and the lab tech said that caused the low level.
you should have told that tech lady you drank alot of water so you could pee. how close was she when she was watching you? thats so crazy she didnt notice.
i always read never to give the first pee of the day as that has the most toxins and most chance of drugs.
you can buy dehydrated clean urine online

 

[happyherb]

i feel for you bro, i hate it when the ex get kids involved to play her games.
so are you waiting to see what the judge says? if so do not bring up anything about the test unless he asks, then just say i drink alot of water everyday and the lab tech said that caused the low level.
you should have told that tech lady you drank alot of water so you could pee. how close was she when she was watching you? thats so crazy she didnt notice.
i always read never to give the first pee of the day as that has the most toxins and most chance of drugs.
you can buy dehydrated clean urine online

hey..thanks man !!!....yup its BS...the kids miss me bad..and i think she hates it that we get along better that she does with them...and i also have nearly zero probs with them compared to her stressing/screaming/punishing them all the time..and her having no time for them passing them off to other ppl.....
....she gets the pension for them either way and is one on those ppl that is all about "ca$h CASH ca$h "..but she recons they dont wana see me lol there just too busy she says lol (under 10 yrs old ) wont let them talk to me on the phone...i think she may have banned them from the computer so they cant contact me...its all to hurt me...if it hurts them? worth it to her

...games games games....guess who they will only talk to one day?...her older son dont even talk to her(not my son and around 20 yrs old)...but he's an ass and should have been drowned at birth!!! sorry...different story

will play it all by ear while in court and say whats needed ...

if mentioned yea i will tell the judge i drink a lot...and that my ex is the only person in my 30 plus years on earth that has ever said to me "you drink a lot" so yea shes just being difficult...she knows i do drink ALOT but still does this "your honer"...and i do...sometimes i have 2 or 3 different types drinks in front of me...coffee,water,ice coffee ,juice,cordial ect...(not booze dont drink anymore)

yea maybe i should have said to the tech lady i drink a lot ?...but was trying to take a different angle and get some better answers ...rather than "well next time dont drink that much...bye" and me saying what i said to her on the phone wont ever be made public...so its not like i will get caught out on a lie if i was to tell the judge the opposite

when tested (different lady than on the phone) ....if the chick was say less than foot closer to my sexy bits...and i had a hard on...i could have been getting a blow job..so yea REAL close....but she was on the wrong side to see it...jeans...hand in the way while filling the jar...and just finished while she did that....i started my "peeing" asap...while she was doing something right next to us...then she looked and put her head right over the top so i couldnt see what i would have been doing...sorta duno...i was tripping out...hope to be more relaxed next time and have worked out a touch better system?

yea for us trying to scam a test the 1st pee of the day would be real bad (if wanting to flush your system)...but for a normal test for other things the 1st pee of the day is better for there testing as it would be for a drug test too get a strong test result...which would then = busted...so dont do that ppl...unless ya having non drug taking tests but rather test to see what medical probs you have.

ive seen dehydrated clean urine online....and thought my "very clean" pee was even better cause it was free and i already had myself tested months before at the local doctors and was clean..and i really dont have much to smoke other than shit so im fine getting totally clean again

thanks for the interest and input man.HH. =]-~

 

[good drown]

i know exactly how she is, ive seen it so much. she is so jealous because the kids love you more, show enthusiasm whenever they know they get to see you. it drives her nuts, all she can do is try and spoil them with material possessions, and that only goes so far, kids are not fooled easily. At least when they grow up, they will understand exactly how she was and treated you.
i didn't realize it was a clean sample, i bet you drank alot of water when you originally took the sample. i think if you go in with the attitude of 100% pass, and convince everyone you beleive that, it should help out. don't go in with a huge water bottle, but i would bring maybe one, ore have a cup of water.
good luck!

 

[happyherb]

sounds like you do know her hahahaha

they"show enthusiasm whenever they know they get to see you"

very true...she even tries to sabotage my day with them just as there walking out the door to come and see me and says things are my fault ect ...they they go off there tree with her...drops them off to me and says "your gona have a bad day with them,there in a shit of a mood" smiles and drives off.....we have a great day and through the day i find out why she said why she said....caue they say "mum said...."

yea she tries to buy them...yea...well when shes got the cash...most of it goes in the pokies(called slots in USA? )


yea drives her crazy that the kids ...i guess you could say "love me more" or just feel very comfortable and laugh a lot and get a fair deal and a good ear from me ect ect ect...and i cook like a chef...not like her burning boiled vegies lol...how?...duno lol

yea i drank liquids all day then saved my samples to freeze....i didnt plan to smoke that day but wanted to/needed too so i failed to plan..grrrrr didnt really read about that could be a problem...but looking back with the info i read i really should have put 2 + 2 together (which is why im posting all this as ive said to get more usable info out there)

"don't go in with a huge water bottle, but i would bring maybe one, ore have a cup of water."

what to the testing?...yea for sure...and will tell them what happend with the last test and say....havnt drunk much today...shouldnt have a prob should i ?(which may leed to them offering some usefull info?)....but next one will have better pee....might even take one of my new samples down to the docs and get it tested and make sure they test for creatinine lvl as well as weed so i dont wast more time and have less probs

while with the woman i took a hand full of pain killers and two mouth fulls of cordial (supposed to have only 8 pills per day the pack says.... and i took 6 there...6 when i woke up and then probly twice more than that through the day?...not that that has anything to do with it...but ppl may ask "why a hand full of pills?"....cause i dont like the pain...and would have a hard time walking home...again another story...
..but thats why i smoke and grow to find the "it" strain for pain(ive had it and lost it already )... i even told the court about why ive smoked and grew plants...yup they knew i grew...cause of my big bust...dobbed in by her so i look bad in court...it worked....shes nice hey? lol....but had to explain all to explain why i was busted with 80 plants(males/fems)...and obviously why the weed judge didnt put me in jail...cause im a med user....aaahhh the whole deals bogus and very complicated..

even in family court...i got in trouble for drinking my own drink? WTF?...theres water there if ya want a drink.... drink that....i drank more that a liter while in court....hope the judge saw that and remembers !!!

just hope the judge has a brain and can see " test results = PASS " and says ..well...whats the problem? why are you asses wasting my bloody time?.anyway... i write too much lol...catch ya ..HH. =]-~

 

[good drown]

damn pokies.

you do write alot but i enjoy reading it all. your lingo and culture is a tad different then US, and i love it.
dont go crazy with the pills in front of your ex or around the kids. she could try and use that to limit your custody. if she asks the kids and they say you take pills, she can manipulate that into you being an addict.
keep drinking lots of water, its great for you as well. get your kids to drink water too, that way she really will think you are a water freak if you have your kinds wanting to drink 8 cups a day to stay healthy!

whens the court date?

 

[happyherb]

i dont have pills them everyday for 2 reasons...to expensive..and not healthy for me...i even asked for blood and urine tests to be done to see how much damage they had done to my body and it came back A ok !!!

she takes just as many pills as me(maybe more?)...we used to buy a box each....mine are for my different pains...hers are for...well shit i dont know lol....i think she just likes too take them?...has always been a box siting at her house each time ive been there in the past and these days.

for years ive had pain...no doctors did shit...finnaly found a doc that did many different blood tests and found out what my problem is...
..im waiting to see a specialist in december to get more info...but my pain is from sometime in my life(before 17 i would say) i got a common cold...instead of the anti bodies fighting the cold it started to attack my joints(knees,wrists,fingers,lower back ,upper back,neck...and these days feeling it in my hips and feet) and no one says here take this "?????"... its just been take some fish oil tablets!!! ...oh yea...pull the other one...it dont do shit.....i tell the docs how much pills i have to take and they dont blink there eyes or offer anything else?

in court i already told them about the amount of pills i take so they cant say shit about it for they didnt say anything before...there prob is they dont want me to smoke weed and thats there "only" problem they have with me with me(great dad, kids love me, decent home ect)...uneducated dick heads...woops did i say that out aloud ????

no idea when court is?...monday lawyers(well he's a free community lawyer that dont act for me in court,cause of the ex's lies and the judge i lost my proper free legal aid lawyer)...hand the paper work i get from him into the courts i hope monday..they go through it and send me a court date....hope there quick about it?....may take less that a month?

and my kids are funny..."do you want a drink of cordial?"..."no i want water"...looks to be with me and school were brain washing them real good with some good info .HH. =]-~

 

[Primprimo]

If your test is unsupervised... use quick fix http://www.quickfixurine.com/ i get tested once or twice a year and never had a problem with it... no need to freeze.. comes in its own container with thermo strip right on it...and its synthetic so u dont hav to worry bout gettin someone elses pee on ur hands... :smile: lls.. its well worth the money
Primo