My Sour Diesel look sad, what can I do?

[bounty29]

This is a clone from a SD IBL plant I had vegging for a while. It had been looking great up until about 5 days ago. I transplanted a few days before that and she was looking great. The third picture is a day or two after the transplant. I had just been giving them water for up until 5 days ago, when I gave them a casting and molasses tea. I forgot to adjust the PH, and I think it was pretty low. I watered them all last night with plain 6.5ph water, and that was between the last and second to last pictures. As you can see, there wasn't any improvement. Any ideas on what I can do?

Oh yeah, it went from rooting in a peat pellet, to vegging in a cup with a peat/perlite/vermiculite mix (with some dolomitic and calcitic limestone), to the 2 liter it's in now which is all FFOF mixed about 4:1 with the peat/perlite/vermiculte mix.

Here's some before and after pictures so you can see what I'm talking about.

 

[SensiMilla024]

I don't know what it is exactly. . . .but I will say that the plants look better

in the mix you made........I would get it out of the FFOF

 

[Core]

soil looks so wet? looks like overwtering though.....could be bad drainidge?

 

[bounty29]

SensiMilla024 - I fully agree, they looked better in the simple mix. I'd heard so many good things about FFOF I wasn't expecting problems like this.

Core - That's what I thought, but a lot of people I've talked to use FFOF straight and don't have this problem. I thought it was a bit heavy and added the lighter mix to it to lighten it up a bit but I don't think it was enough. Maybe I'll buy a bag of perlite and tone it down some more before my final transplant.

 

[DirtDoctor]

They just look overwatered.

A tiny bit hungry lookin' too, she'd really appreciate a light foliar feeding

 

[Dj Zion-i]

looks like u might be having 2 problems in 1.

looks like u might be having 2 problems in 1.

It could be,not good enough drainage,too wet,and it looks to me like a plant that isnt getting enough fresh air possibly.
Lemme explain...a garden will do fine with little fresh air until the plants start to get bigger..then they will shut down and turn that yellow color until they get better ventilation.
I also think youre homemade container doesnt look all that good.
And Ocean forest FF doesnt burn unless you feed alot...so..theres so many little possibilities its hard to determine without actually being there..but...I would dig it up..and repott it into PURE foxfarm OF in a container made for plants...like a 3-5 gallon bucket.And I would water for 1 week(2-3 times in the week) before I fed it.
Sour diesel is hard to over fertilize it LOVES food.So I doubt you over ferted it.

Heres my outdoor sour d project from last year>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[bounty29]

There is no lack of ventilation in the cabinet. I had that problem with my last grow and fixed it with this one. I've got a 175cfm fan exhausting, with air coming in through a 8"x8" darkroom louver.

I'm not sure I get how the container looks has anything to do with it. It's not going to stay in that container, once it shows sex it's going into a black two gallon container to finish it's life.

The FFOF is definitely a lot more heavy than the medium I'm used to working with, so I'll have to water less, probably half as much. I think you're right though, about it being a combination of things. I think it was overwatered, and the PH was off. My last water I corrected the PH, but I think it was still overwatered. Hopefully once it dries out the plant will perk up a bit. Thanks for all the help everyone, I'll definitely post an update in a day or two.

 

[Ed Borg]

Let it drain properly by perhaps adding more holes. Also, watch the over watering and overfeeding as one of the tips looks burned. Also, make sure the plant is close enough to ample light source. Success.

 

[bounty29]

There's plenty of holes in the bottom for drainage, it's just that the soil is very good at retaining water, it's like a sponge. I think I've just got to wait for the plant to use it and from then on water lightly. The tip that looks burned, is. It's not nute burn, it's from when the plant grew up into a CFL and got burnt. Also, the plant is inches from the 150w HPS, so there is plenty of light. Temps are high 70s and low 80s, so that shouldn't be an issue. Again, thanks for the input everyone.

 

[skar]

I think I've just got to wait for the plant to use it and from then on water lightly.

hello,

i think it's a good choice, watering lightly more often to let the soil dry a bit.

Look like overwatered, and with what you say on the retaining capacity of your soil lightly watering seem to be the best way to go.

wish you the best

 

[Adam]

bounty29,
doesnt look that bad man
if all else fails spend more money and less time on them.
ill give you some fake K's here if u dont wanter her with bongwater anymore..
=P

 

[bounty29]

Skar - I'm really disappointed with my first impression of FFOF. I'll definitely be buying a few bags of perlite to lighten it up a bit.

Adam - You're right, I should be happy I've got plants looking this good. I've seen some other stuff in here that I couldn't imagine dealing with.

I'd love to use real pots for my plants but they just take up too much space. I honestly don't think the container is an issue, but it seems to be a common thought so maybe I'm wrong.

 

[bounty29]

Alright, she's looking a whole lot better. I let her dry out, and then gave her a PBP+LK feeding (15ml of each in a gallon of bubbled tap water, PHed to 6.1.) It might not look like she's doing good, but between the last picture in the first post and this picture she was in real bad condition. Thanks for all the help everyone!

 

[teddybud]

YOu have a potasium dissorder too i believe. gl

 

[Babombeez]

To me it looks as though your pH was off and it was locking out calcium, nitrogen, and magnesium as there are pretty much dependent on eachother... FFOF soil is loaded with food already for the first several weeks... I usually don't feed for the first 2 or 3 weeks, the bag even says a month worth of food... Perhaps a pure watering of pH'd water with a slight bit of cal/mag plus. She is definitely looking better though...
Also, I always mix perlite into my FFOF, it just needs to be loosened up a bit...

Beez

 

[bounty29]

I diluted the FFOF with a potting mix I had left over, but it's still a bit heavy for my liking. I'll definitely be picking up a bag of perlite to add in for a little better drainage.

Babombeez - What would you suggest bringing the PH to for a plain watering?

 

[Babombeez]

I diluted the FFOF with a potting mix I had left over, but it's still a bit heavy for my liking. I'll definitely be picking up a bag of perlite to add in for a little better drainage.

Babombeez - What would you suggest bringing the PH to for a plain watering?

I pH my plain water to 6.6

Good luck...

Beez