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My rollercoaster first grow.

Myth

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Hello guys. This grow started off really cheap, fish tank, 2.75 Soil, and a fishtank Floro light. I've since then upgraded to a more sophisticated, Even more complicated grow.:) Lets see where i should start, My indica is my biggest, and strongest(I hate to say it but it might turn out male in the end after all this shit-.-) standing at at least 2 feet tall, Really bushy, really really heavy on the foilage. But honestly thats it! the rest of these plants have been through hell and back,When i started the grow they grew very slowly, but they were beautiful.
They were dark ass green like my other 3 plants in the back*I ordered the seeds from amsterdam for those, they're Skunk Special, 1 month 1 week old.*

The Setup:
Hours of light: 18, 6 hours off.
Temperature: Havent really taken the temperature, but if its 68 constantly upstairs, and i have an ocillating fan blowing on them 24/7, Im going to assume around 72ish when the lights are on, 63-65 at night?
Light source: 400 Watt HPS, Metallic reflective ballist. *yes i failed to take a picture with all the ones i already have, can u imagine that?lol* But if a photograph or further information is needed, please ask, ill gladly give u the serial # if needed haha.

Airflow: At the moment, the grow area is not cut off from the rest of the basement, so im going to assume a very great air flow. im going to be closing off the room with the wooden frame ive built, installing an exhaust fan, and 1 for sure, possibly 2 oscilating fans.

Soil:
The big ones are in some cheap shit, i honestly cant remember the name, when i transplanted them i also added Scotts Water smart Formula Potting soil. The amsterdam ones are in just that, and the other 4 plants are in the cheap stuff mixed with Scotts, im due for another transplant and resoiling on most as well, doing that next month when i got the money .-.

But even those are morphing and dying on me. Nutrients? Well i used a 12-0-0 Bloodmeal, thinking it would benefit the grow. It did the complete opposite. Before i added bloodmeal to the 9 random seeds, they were really dark green and healthy. Ill also say before i moved them downstairs they were upstairs, and the walls were white. And they also were on my window sill ALOT, id literally bring them in first thing in the morning, water them, call them beautiful, and smoke bud play music around them*lame i know, but whatever i did it lets move on*

The total grow date..yeah lets just say that the big ones are 6 months, literally. They grew really slowly, and then after awhile i put them outdoors and it helped a bit, then i moved them all to the basement, installed a 400 Watt HPS w/ metallic ballist. For awhile, they got burnt, i erradicated that problem, cut the dead foilage off. I've flushed them, and added very little bloodmeal, it suggested something like a cup for a 10x8 garden, well i did half a tablespoon per plant, and for the amsterdam ones (the big pot ones) i gave them about 3/4s of a tablespoon. My watering schedule, roughly every 2-3 days, today its day 3 and their soil is still moist, not heavily, nor medium, they'll probably need a drink by tomorrow morning.

Bugs, while i completely have neglected any form of insecticide, i check frequently, and thus far ive found a fruit fly, and a bumble bee(how it got there, is beyond me, and he looked pretty damn stoned haha). I see these very tiny black bugs flying around the grow area, very rarely the actual plants. The fruit fly i found lodged in the middle of Todd(The biggest one, the indica). he flew off and havent heard from the bugger since. Ants, are prevelant around the grow area, Not to the point where i feel a concern,I've seen them on the pots, on the walls, maybe the saucers, But never on the soil or the actual plant. And also because i see alot of spiders and they're just on the walls, the spiders havent landed on the plants not once in the last 2 months.


Pictures...Give me about 3 minutes, theres at least 34 guys and all very high res shots.
 

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Myth

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last 2, promise :D.

Anyone who can help ill be very appreciative, i know im a n00b;[
 

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habeeb

follow your heart
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ok, first HPS light doesn't help one bit ( i mean for pictures )

looks like P def ( see all the purple stems )
mag def ( see in the pics looks like yellow outline of leaf )
nute burn from to much N or K ( tips burnt and some curling over ) ( also see clawing on that second pic )
and looks like overwatering ( droopy leafs )

and I spy a topped plant, and what the hell are the rags doing over your pots, get that crap off them , these are beautiful plants and deserve such respect, these are women were talking about..


don't worry bro, I seen worse plants then that before, enjoy the journey , not the destination.



what your gonna wanna do is get some quality soil if a noob, AKA fox farms , bio canna or the sort. then get some basic grow nutes like earth juice, bio canna, or the sort. start from there and you will have alot less worries I guarantee. take as much soil out when transplanting them, give them a week and they will be alot better off. also start learning how to clone so you can ditch those messes and have some quality starts..
 

Myth

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haha yes the rags i have no excuse other than they're in shitty 2 liter bottles at the moment, cant afford to transplant them just yet so i wanted to keep their roots from light. As for the clawing in the 2nd pic, believe it or not that plant had gotten zero nutes when it started to claw, i just recently gave it a 3/4ths table spoon of bloodmeal to try and even it out.
Yes, the very small, plant got topped at a very early age accidentally, the floro housing crashed on the plant, and bam its been a midget ever since, The rest of the plants i just finished topping about a week ago as well, the indica showed excellent new shoots after i topped him, the 3 in the back did as well, the others no so much.

tyvm habeeb
 
Bugs, while i completely have neglected any form of insecticide, i check frequently, and thus far ive found a fruit fly, and a bumble bee(how it got there, is beyond me, and he looked pretty damn stoned haha). I see these very tiny black bugs flying around the grow area, very rarely the actual plants. The fruit fly i found lodged in the middle of Todd(The biggest one, the indica). he flew off and havent heard from the bugger since. Ants, are prevelant around the grow area, Not to the point where i feel a concern,I've seen them on the pots, on the walls, maybe the saucers, But never on the soil or the actual plant. And also because i see alot of spiders and they're just on the walls, the spiders havent landed on the plants not once in the last 2 months.

The bugs might be eating your roots, this a big problem and can get alot worse.

look up fungus gnats
 

Myth

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How long has this problem been going on? A week
What STRAIN are you growing?4 Unknown, 3 Skunk Special
What was the establishing technique? seed
What is the age of your plants? 1 mo 1 week on the skunks, 3 mos 3 weeks on the rest.
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now?Skunks since seed, 1 Month on the other 4.
How Tall are the plants?most 1 ft.
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?veg
What Technique are you using?LST
What size pots are you using? Unsure.
What substrate/medium are you using?Scotts Water smart potting soil.
What Nutrient's are you using?Miracle Gro Organic Bloodmeal
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water?Havent given them anything other than the bloodmeal
How often are you feeding?n/a
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?No device to test
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
How often are you watering?2-3 a week
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?
What size bulb are you using?unsure
What is the distance to the canopy?
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)unsure
What is the canopy temperature?
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)72Lights on
65 lights out
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?n/a yet
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?Yes
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? Moist.
Is your water HARD or SOFT?Not even sure how to tell.
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?Tap, Aerated
Are you using water from a water softener? no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?Topped
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?None
Are plant's infected with pest's? Not that i can tell, i see them around the grow area, but never really on the plants. i found a fruit fly and a bumblee directly on the tops that was it.
 

B.C.

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Dude, invest in some nutes. You need a balance of nutreints not jus blood meal. That's why you have so many different deficiencies. You can get one step grow and bloom nutes and be set. Untill you feed them correctly I think it's jus gonna get worse. I have a feeling if you would have had the right nutes all along, they'd be kickin ass and takin names right now. lol Good luck man! BC
 
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