Hi there ppl....some of you may remember the aerocloner I made earlier in the year...I was not happywith it and it never got used as It was leaky due to the lid only resting on top and the water flying out.
Well, I decided to have another go...this time with a tub Ive had for ages(but UK ppl, I know they still sell the same ones at Wilkinsons!!)
The reason I decided to use this particular tub this time, is that there is a small rim on the inside about 1/2 inch down from the top which will allow the lid to be slightly inside and not letting water outta the side this time. the following picture shows the rim..
you can also see in that picture how i made the sprinkler system.... just a basic T shape made from 2short pieces connected to a longer piece by a Tee connector, with each of the short pieces terminating in an end stop. I decided to put the sprinklers on the underneath of the pipe for two reasons;...
A) with a gap of about 1-1/2 inches between the flinging water and the underside of the lid, the potential for leaks outta the top is lowered... and
B) Putting them on the underside lets me have the top of the pipe flush with the underside of the lid, adding a little support in the middle, only a little but its never going to have to hold any real wieght anyway...
All connections are tight as I used 12mm LDPE Pipe with 13mm fittings so had to heat all the ends upto get them on and they sort of shrink on, giving a snug fit...and for double security i used the green rip ties to make sure they stay put.
the pump used is a good old MJ1000 and it certainly makes those buggers spin....i have been wondering if it will heat up the water too much, and will be checking that regularly( not sure on the ideal temp for the water??) but as the roots wont be sitting in it i am unsure if it will matter, but if it does become too hot, I can get some larger hose(the black vinyl stuff used on pond biofilters) and fit the pump inline on the outside of the tub, or just above the water at the very least.
I had a few thoughts on how to support the cuttings, and at 1st I was going to go with foam like on this mediumless bubbler
but when i looked in my supplies, i could tell there wasnt enough foam, so I went to the backup plan...
It is just correx cut to size and trimmed down to fit snugly in the top and rest on the rim inside. I cut the holes using a holesaw, and then using a holesaw one size bigger, I cut some discs from another piece of Correx and split them to the centre using a craft knife. the line up the middle shows where the pipe is so i didnt cut there....
I figure with this method, I can make different discs, some with 1 hole, some with up to 3, as there is plenaty of water flying around in there so no reason why it wouldnt do 3 per site when needs be. As it stands, with 1 per site it will do 19.... I stuck my finger in all the holes with the lid on to make sure all were getting coverage and it was fine...
I also added a bubble wand on a dual outlet pump joined with a small Tee , so with the airstone combined with the water droplets hitting the sides and the water surface, it is going to be highly oxygenated and really does splash a lot, it looks like a hot tub.....
I put the marker pen on the top to show the scale for you.... It would easily fit in the bottom of a wardrobe or in a small dresser with a 20watt CF above it or something while they rooted.... It will be going in my veg room under the envirolight with the mothers and young'uns,,,...
I also added a level indicator on the side like I did with my bubbler, I havent got a pic of that though - I was very stoned when i made this, sorry lol.
that should give you an idea of how I did it though...just some clear tubing with an Elbow, drill a hole near the bottom and shove it in making sure you have a tight fit...then cover it with a shitload of hotglue or NON-TOXIC sealant of some kind...make sure,to seal it well though if you do add an indicator;.. I already had a leak from inadequate sealing once with the bubbler.... to calibrate it you just fill it 1 litre at a time, marking the line on the tube as you go...simple...although this cloner, doent even enter the tube until 7 litres due to my putting the hole slightly higher than it should be for the sake of not cracking it..
but never mind eh, I still know when it needs topping up without taking the lid off. 
and so without any further ado, I give you the finshed article actually doing her job......
the residents are 14X BC Sweet Tooth, 7 each from 2 different plants, there at oppsote ends... and the 2 in the middle that are all yellow are Cheese, which have been rooting in a glass of water and have little 3 mm roots, about 5 or 6 nubs each but I want to get em going so this makes a good test to see not only how quickly cuts will root in it, but also how fast it will develop those roots once rooted, and I can see these things simoultaneously now having those newly taken cuttings just in, and the rooted ones for the tryout of this little machine.
It only has plain water in it for now, but once It goes down to the grow house...then I will be using the Ecolizer Root up in it.
any questions and comments are welcome....
finally, I am aware that this isnt a "True Aero" but TBH I dont give a monkeys left bollock(or his right one either) systems like this work we know that, they give nice roots quickly and we know that that, and they get sold as aerocloners so thats what ill call this.....not meant as an insult to you TAG guys....just saying i know what it is to save you having to tell me
bottom line, it works and the cuttings are alive still 
and thats the whole point.
well, I enjoyed making this so much i might do something else similar....GH have just released the "AeroFarm" basically an Aquafarm but with misters instead of the top container filled with medium.....i dont know any details of the PSI and all that yet but the pump does look like the ones shown in the TAG thread. I will do a thread on tis bit of kit as I was going to buy one(but my Hydro guy cant get them yet) and have been mulling over an idea to convert one of the Aquafarms to this sort of thing for ages...... also, for those with Aquafarms hey sell a kit to convert it...this is what I was going to buy.
Right thats it for now....ill keep this updated every few days to show you how theyre all doing and if it killed them lol.
Happy growing everybody,
Be lucky now,
Harry
Well, I decided to have another go...this time with a tub Ive had for ages(but UK ppl, I know they still sell the same ones at Wilkinsons!!)
The reason I decided to use this particular tub this time, is that there is a small rim on the inside about 1/2 inch down from the top which will allow the lid to be slightly inside and not letting water outta the side this time. the following picture shows the rim..
you can also see in that picture how i made the sprinkler system.... just a basic T shape made from 2short pieces connected to a longer piece by a Tee connector, with each of the short pieces terminating in an end stop. I decided to put the sprinklers on the underneath of the pipe for two reasons;...
A) with a gap of about 1-1/2 inches between the flinging water and the underside of the lid, the potential for leaks outta the top is lowered... and
B) Putting them on the underside lets me have the top of the pipe flush with the underside of the lid, adding a little support in the middle, only a little but its never going to have to hold any real wieght anyway...
All connections are tight as I used 12mm LDPE Pipe with 13mm fittings so had to heat all the ends upto get them on and they sort of shrink on, giving a snug fit...and for double security i used the green rip ties to make sure they stay put.
the pump used is a good old MJ1000 and it certainly makes those buggers spin....i have been wondering if it will heat up the water too much, and will be checking that regularly( not sure on the ideal temp for the water??) but as the roots wont be sitting in it i am unsure if it will matter, but if it does become too hot, I can get some larger hose(the black vinyl stuff used on pond biofilters) and fit the pump inline on the outside of the tub, or just above the water at the very least.
I had a few thoughts on how to support the cuttings, and at 1st I was going to go with foam like on this mediumless bubbler
but when i looked in my supplies, i could tell there wasnt enough foam, so I went to the backup plan...
It is just correx cut to size and trimmed down to fit snugly in the top and rest on the rim inside. I cut the holes using a holesaw, and then using a holesaw one size bigger, I cut some discs from another piece of Correx and split them to the centre using a craft knife. the line up the middle shows where the pipe is so i didnt cut there....
I figure with this method, I can make different discs, some with 1 hole, some with up to 3, as there is plenaty of water flying around in there so no reason why it wouldnt do 3 per site when needs be. As it stands, with 1 per site it will do 19.... I stuck my finger in all the holes with the lid on to make sure all were getting coverage and it was fine...
I also added a bubble wand on a dual outlet pump joined with a small Tee , so with the airstone combined with the water droplets hitting the sides and the water surface, it is going to be highly oxygenated and really does splash a lot, it looks like a hot tub.....
I put the marker pen on the top to show the scale for you.... It would easily fit in the bottom of a wardrobe or in a small dresser with a 20watt CF above it or something while they rooted.... It will be going in my veg room under the envirolight with the mothers and young'uns,,,...
I also added a level indicator on the side like I did with my bubbler, I havent got a pic of that though - I was very stoned when i made this, sorry lol.
that should give you an idea of how I did it though...just some clear tubing with an Elbow, drill a hole near the bottom and shove it in making sure you have a tight fit...then cover it with a shitload of hotglue or NON-TOXIC sealant of some kind...make sure,to seal it well though if you do add an indicator;.. I already had a leak from inadequate sealing once with the bubbler.... to calibrate it you just fill it 1 litre at a time, marking the line on the tube as you go...simple...although this cloner, doent even enter the tube until 7 litres due to my putting the hole slightly higher than it should be for the sake of not cracking it..
but never mind eh, I still know when it needs topping up without taking the lid off. and so without any further ado, I give you the finshed article actually doing her job......
the residents are 14X BC Sweet Tooth, 7 each from 2 different plants, there at oppsote ends... and the 2 in the middle that are all yellow are Cheese, which have been rooting in a glass of water and have little 3 mm roots, about 5 or 6 nubs each but I want to get em going so this makes a good test to see not only how quickly cuts will root in it, but also how fast it will develop those roots once rooted, and I can see these things simoultaneously now having those newly taken cuttings just in, and the rooted ones for the tryout of this little machine.
It only has plain water in it for now, but once It goes down to the grow house...then I will be using the Ecolizer Root up in it.
any questions and comments are welcome....
finally, I am aware that this isnt a "True Aero" but TBH I dont give a monkeys left bollock(or his right one either) systems like this work we know that, they give nice roots quickly and we know that that, and they get sold as aerocloners so thats what ill call this.....not meant as an insult to you TAG guys....just saying i know what it is to save you having to tell me
bottom line, it works and the cuttings are alive still and thats the whole point.well, I enjoyed making this so much i might do something else similar....GH have just released the "AeroFarm" basically an Aquafarm but with misters instead of the top container filled with medium.....i dont know any details of the PSI and all that yet but the pump does look like the ones shown in the TAG thread. I will do a thread on tis bit of kit as I was going to buy one(but my Hydro guy cant get them yet) and have been mulling over an idea to convert one of the Aquafarms to this sort of thing for ages...... also, for those with Aquafarms hey sell a kit to convert it...this is what I was going to buy.
Right thats it for now....ill keep this updated every few days to show you how theyre all doing and if it killed them lol.
Happy growing everybody,
Be lucky now,
Harry
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