My girlfriends mom introduced me to a santa marta grower

[rickytheghost]

I live in Colombia, and was visiting my girfriends family, and her mom is friends with a grower from Santa Marta.

My gf's family lives in Barranquilla, and the grower comes into the city sporadically to drop off product to his customers. I have been talking to the guy and he wants me to go out to his farm to check out his plants.

I grabbed 50,000 pesos worth (15$) of his smoke the other day when we were hanging out. Its got a spicy woodie almost coffee taste and looks to be cured similar looking like a cob in Tangwena's malawi cob cure thread. The high is psychadelic/trippy, relaxing, and super happy, and make me want to eat anything and everything, super munchies. It has the typical mexican brickweed aroma.

Here are some pics, sorry my tablet doesn't have the best camera



I am still visiting her family so I am in a hotel and can't take better pics.

He was telling me growers from the valle de cauca (Cali area, southern Colombia) are growing cripa which is indica strains from abroad in huge 24 hour veg grows using lights until harvest, and churning out light green hydro weed as they call it here (maybe using light depo?). However it's not grown with water, they grow in soil. These growers from down south are getting twice as much per pound as the guys in santa marta are getting for their traditionally grown brick weed.

He was also telling me traditional cultivars they have grown for generations are still very much around but that growers are super stingy about giving out their seeds. They guard the seeds like secret ingredients in a family recipe. He also said many want to switch to comercial strains and growing techniques so they can push out the light green hydro cripa weed, so they can double their profits.

 

[yesum]

Thanks for the report ricky. Wish I could join you. If you find a really fine strain I would pay them a good amount for some seeds. If you can afford it that is.

 

[rootfingers]

Very cool to hear your report and I'm happy people are still growing out those old school genetics. Thanks for sharing!!!

 

[huligun]

I will be watching this. Thanks for posting.

 

[englishrick]

Cripa,,, sounds like crip weed to me,,, wtf man?

Try and get as many seeds as you can of the landrace stuff and even the cripa too ,,,spread them about,,they might be important to the gene pool,,,

 

[therevverend]

Yes those seeds are quite valuable. No reason to think the next generation is going to keep using those old school curing techniques and the strains that go with them. Looks like they're growing sinsemilla? Even if they are I'm sure you can gather the odd seed or two. If you find a batch of seedy you've hit the jackpot.
Hate to see them give up the old curing techniques but I imagine if they did they'd get around the same $$ as the 'crippy' gets. Some of that stuff looks kinda moldy and fermented, I imagine it degrades the THC a great deal. If they treated it like modern California outdoor I bet they'd get a good price.
The terms they use to sell their product are confusing. 'Hydro' is bullshit they have no idea what hydroponics are. If it's light green it's probably outdoor, could be using 24 hour lights to extend the veg so it doesn't flower right away. In Columbia Indica strains are going to flower immediately. They need the opposite of light dep, something to stop them from flowering. I'd also think running an entire crop under lights would get expensive, no reason in the tropics. Wouldn't need lights if they'd hybridized with local strains but I doubt they're that sophisticated.
I had a friend from the PNW who moved to Hawaii, he said he had to reverse engineer all his strains. Breed back towards the 'sativa to get them to grow large. Otherwise they'd be 2 foot tall scrags.
If I grew in Columbia I'd want both the local long season narrow leafs, plus I'd cross them with my favorite northern strains to shorten flowering time and boost yields.

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

rickytheghost... Your experience is interesting, I have friends from Medellin who can only get Crippi now... as all sales are gang controlled, there is only one outfit supplying any barrios, and it is all Crippi

This is a friend who brought me Punto Rojo and Mangobiche when she returned, but now never sees it.

Getting hold of these strains and preserving the seeds is critical, soon it will all be Cripi and it will be almost impossible.

Morocco has changed dramatically, a friend who returned recently showed me photos of "new style" moroccan, gone are the hills filled with weed left to do it's own thing, now half of the country's production is all lines, irrigated, female dutch genetics. Colombia is already further down that road and neither will be coming back, please get as much as you can saved and preserved.

 

[OakyJoe]

He was telling me growers from the valle de cauca (Cali area, southern Colombia) are growing cripa which is indica....

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A police commander in the Cauca region where Cali is located, Carlos Rodriguez, said one of the "GMO" modified varieties goes by the name, "Creepy".
Link - GM marijuana problem growing in Colombia

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

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I think it was originally called Cripi because they mixed Dutch varieties with local strains, and the effect was a Creeper.. hence "Cripi" ...That was 10 + years ago.... However I have zero actual evidence of this, just stories from friends there, one of whom knows the guys involved and hears quite a bit about the industry

Now it is all Dutch type genetics with no creeper effect I heard, in Medellin anyway

It is all mercilessly sprayed with insecticides and is pretty shittily grown, cured, he hates it and turns down free Cripi whenever possible

 

[Croissant]

Cripa,,, sounds like crip weed to me,,, wtf man?

Try and get as many seeds as you can of the landrace stuff and even the cripa too ,,,spread them about,,they might be important to the gene pool,,,

^this

We need to preserve those strains. Get as many landrace seeds of as many varieties as you can. If you can't preserve them try to find someone who can like whoever did it for cannabiogen. That was a labor of love for 35 a pack to the masses for low yielding 18+ week Sativa's. The world needs more people like that.

 

[huligun]

I don't know why people think that in countries that grew what they called landrace would want to continue to do so when the money is in hybrids. Jamaicans, Mexicans and Colombians want big fat buds with lots of resin, with big yields and finishes in two months instead of 10. Americans are not the only ones with common sense.

 

[rickytheghost]

I am going to meet up with him again in a couple weeks. I am going out to his farm at some point.

I was already expressing an interest in seeds to him of traditional strains and i was showing him seed companies and stuff on my tablet and explaining to him about the value the cannabis community places on those strains.

He was very receptive so i will post updates.

I ran into him again before i left barranquilla and he wants me to show him how to cure the weed like they do in the states, because that weed i got is great its just the fact that they sweat cure it on big tarps then brick it, that makes it lose bag appeal.

He knows a bunch of other growers so maybe i can get him to spread the word.
It was a totally random meeting because he stopped by my girlfriends moms house when i was there visiting, and i ran into him over there again the second time also. Her mom knows i like to smoke so she introduced me to him in the spirit of the herb, lol.

I will try to take some better pics of the herb i got from him and the cripa i had at home already, and post them in a bit.

 

[rickytheghost]

rickytheghost... Your experience is interesting, I have friends from Medellin who can only get Crippi now... as all sales are gang controlled, there is only one outfit supplying any barrios, and it is all Crippi

This is a friend who brought me Punto Rojo and Mangobiche when she returned, but now never sees it.

Getting hold of these strains and preserving the seeds is critical, soon it will all be Cripi and it will be almost impossible.

Morocco has changed dramatically, a friend who returned recently showed me photos of "new style" moroccan, gone are the hills filled with weed left to do it's own thing, now half of the country's production is all lines, irrigated, female dutch genetics. Colombia is already further down that road and neither will be coming back, please get as much as you can saved and preserved.

Manizales where i live is the same way, i know some people ouside the city that get traditional bricks but its through a friend of a friend so not easy to do.

 

[rickytheghost]

Here are some better pics of the herb from santa marta, forgive my shitty camera

 

[rickytheghost]

Here is a close up of the loose nugs from the brick

 

[rickytheghost]

Here is the cripa from manizales, it has a hazey smell and taste is seedless a lot lighter green, smells and taste really nice, has a decent high. I get 50 grams for 50,000 pesos, which is like 15 bucks or so, the same price i paid for the quarter kilo of the santa marta weed.

 

[rickytheghost]

Here are 3 seeds i have found from the santa marta weed already, there aren't a whole lot but their should be quite a few still. They are greenish brown with tigerstripes

I will update again after i meet with my friend again

 

[rickytheghost]

found this sweet article too. its in spanish but i popped it into translate for you guys.

http://www.revistadonjuan.com/histo...to-cien-por-ciento-campesina+articulo+9630844

Colombian farmers cultivate and sell in craft packages and give them the seeds to their chickens. This is a journey to the heart of the main area of ​​cannabis production in Colombia

Just months ago, Californians had a referendum to legalize the consumption of marijuana, was itself far from winning, but the issue is increasingly recurring and controversial in the United States and the rest of the world, meanwhile, Colombian farmers cultivate and sell in craft packages and give them the seeds to their chickens. This is a journey to the heart of the main area of ​​cannabis production in Colombia. Marijuana hundred percent rural.

By Diana Maria Pachón - Picture Carlos Villalon

He did not know the smell of wild cannabis until a gust of wind brought me your sweet aroma mixed with the rain forest. Marijuana kills in this part of the country is higher than the coffee sticks, and fragrance, more intense than any other plant. The breeze betrays each of the crops planted beside the road. Come on three motorcycles, forward, march the guide, a white man 25 years ago photographer and tail of the caravan I go.

We move more than 60 kilometers per hour through a muddy, winding trail that extends from El Palo, municipality of Caloto in northern Cauca, to Tacueyó. After half an hour drive we leave the bikes in the eaves of the house only found in that part of the road and we penetrate walk through a field quagmire of banana trees, corn, coffee and coca. The three walked in silence while listening to the sound ever closer to a creek.

-Hey Guys -we get ready guide- says that'll kidnap.

The day before, when still cold and we kept the Bogota while taking a red sitting on a sidewalk of El Palo, a young -Moreno typical of the region, short and with menudos- bigoticos he said we were waiting above. The order was peremptory. "Up" is Mount; "Up" means guerrillas. As the guerrillas are the law plays in the mountains and obey, as our guide said, leave the red and we got two bikes AKT 125 costs led us "up".

The landscape of the Central Andes was an incentive for uncertainty. Its ripples were bathed in the last light of evening, light that spreads like a golden mantle. The ride was short, about twenty minutes. We parked the bikes in a house that seemed to have been specially vacated for the meeting. The young man who alerted us to the Palo headed toward the back of the house and returned a moment later appear giving us the sign that follow.

Under a bower was a fat man, dressed in a clean white shirt and blue jeans. His blue eyes had the look of one who has lost with weapons sense of pity and compassion. He not submitted. It did not come to be interviewed but to questioning. We later found out who is head of militia, a higher range of guerrilla fighter. He asked us who we were, why we were coming, we said we were journalists and we wanted to go to crops of marijuana and meet people planting. After each of our answers we looked into his eyes to confirm if we were telling the truth.

After several questions, he let his guard down. The questioning turned to conversation.

'Poor peasants said, they do what they can. We do not mess up with them nor they with us.

After a pause he continued: 'Sometimes we mediate in disputes, but that's because the state is left abandoned region for a long time and touched us assume authority.

The interrogation was short, maybe a quarter of an hour. The man was in the chair waiting for the moment of our departure.

And now -24 hours later- they were going to kidnap.

The guide laughed when he saw our faces. Here he told us not enter any, is indigenous and peasant land, but the guerrillas monitor everything and do not like strangers.

'People have to obey. They are the ones who represent the law in the mountains. We continue the march through the mud, we crossed the creek we hear from the beginning of the road and discovered amid the thick foliage, two thousand plants of marijuana type "corinto" or "Corintiana" amounting to three meters high.

In Colombia grow different types of cannabis, the most popular are: Santa Marta Golden, grown in the departments of Magdalena and Cesar from the marimbera boom of the seventies; and "corinto" which occurs in the Cauca. They differ -THC- the tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive compound that generates among consumers a sense of placidity. According to Martin Sepulveda, a chemical engineer at the National University, marijuana growing in the north of the country has a percentage of 1.0 to 1.5 of THC. And that occurs in Cauca has 2.0%.

In the cannabis hierarchy, Santa Marta Golden and the "Corinth" occupying the last link below 80 varieties existing in the world and are known as "CRIPI". These varieties arise from changes in the seeds and only grown in greenhouses. They have as much THC, up to 18%.

Under the immense thicket of "Corintiana" grass figure of Carmen, the owner of the creek, of banana trees and, of course, marijuana appears. She greets the self respect of the indigenous, without tutear, lowering his eyes to an unknown eyes and a shy smile. Carmen has forty-one, is dark, with black hair and dark eyes and naive contrast with thick hands and aged.

Three years ago a Dutch came to this same place. Seeing your plants took his head and literally lost sanity. It was launched above the plants, ran among them and leaves rubbed on the arms, face and legs. Carmen laughs remembering this man who seemed to have found Eden on their own farm.

-for Little and bushes is stuffed recalls.

I imitate the Dutch -in a fairly-lower scale, and plucked a leaf green and lanceolate scrubbing my hand to keep the perfume is prohibited and notices as famous as Coca-Cola sheet. In the US alone it is estimated that there are 28.5 million people who use or have used marijuana. The global figure reaches 200 million not counting those who prefer quiet smoke.

'Have you smoked marijuana? , 'I asked.

Loose peasant innocent laughter as loosing a child to talk about adult things. In the midst of this chuckle he replied that "no," "no" prolonged. Indians and peasants know how seeds are planted, they know how to dry, press and sell, but do not know how a "barroom" is armed, much less know the feel of a "lock". The settlers who smoke are.

Carmen wears a white skirt unadorned and pink shirt without prints. Does not have earrings or chains, collected hair leads to an average evening Lycra. He says he has no car or motorcycle, that the only luxury is the TV that is not even flat screen and a husband who treats her well. Carmen laughs again.

The husbands of that part of the Cauca are loyal because it touches them. As the guerrilla troubleshoots silver between growers and "traquetos" also it engages in womanizing, not because they are conservative, but to avoid shows scratches and hair pulling among women duped, or brawls machete between the men.

After speaking of marital benefits in that area, he says that if it were not for marijuana already would have gone with a banner moved to Cali, and incidentally would risk losing her husband.

If I sell my banana I have to pay a transport worth me 20,000 pesos to Santander de Quilichao (two hours away), if I can sell five sticks banana give me 7,000 pesos, if I can not sell I have to throw them away. Marijuana buyers come, pagan chan chan (cash) and go without asking anything.

Each plant approximately 350 grams are obtained. Adding the 2,000 plants for a total of 700,000 grams, which means 1,400 pounds, and arrobas 56. The region's current price per arroba is 170,000 pesos. In a month, when Carmen harvest, dry, desmoñe and sell, will charge 9'520.000 weights which are divided equally between her and her partner, another farmer.

The time it takes to germinate the grass, grow and "enmoñar" or flourish is six months. The 4'760.000 weights that correspond to half of the sale, is all the money you have while another crop out: approximately 793,000 pesos a month. To start a new crop has to devastate the whole earth, buy a pound of seed costs 10,000 pesos, and invest one million pesos in supplies and the salaries of three workers who will help loosen the ribbons after the leaves and they are dry. Each charges 20,000 pesos per 12-hour day and work for a week.

After leaving the plantation Carmen, we restart the march to go Tacueyó, a town located an hour's bike from El Palo. Tacueyó is an indigenous people, protection of the Nasa community. Upon arriving, the first thing you see is an evangelical church and a man dressed in cloth handing out flyers with phrases that seek to recruit parishioners talking about the sins of the soul and the pains of hell.

Five kilometers from the Indian village hidden among the mountains, like all illegal things from Colombia-, is one of the more than one hundred greenhouses that are in the region. It is built with green canvas and a transparent plastic roof. The owner of the crop, a white man paisa accent, advantage closure and lights a cigar bareto or marijuana. In the cities of Colombia a bareto of CRIPI can cost 10,000 pesos, US to $ 60.

While sucking gulps and gasps, proudly displays his 200 plants that already reach one meter high and are under a 15-watt bulbs burning.

-The Of this half are "white widow", the others are "skunk # 11" -which says as if all mankind knew of what he's talking, like a basic and general knowledge.

The "White Widow" and "skunk # 11" are two of the thirty CRIPI varieties grown in the country; others are "super star", "twinkie", "wi-wi", "american golden", "purple # 1" and "blueberry". The price for about five seeds varies between 50,000 and 250,000 pesos, well above a pound of "Corintiana", with more than a hundred seeds, it costs 10,000 pesos price. The advantage of CRIPI is that it is harvested in less time, four months, and sells arroba 6'250.000 traders pesos, almost forty times more than the common cannabis.

CRIPI seeds arise from genetic manipulations in European laboratories, especially the Netherlands and Spain, and arrive in the country packed in pots, toys, televisions and any object where they can hide. On the web there are more than a hundred sites devoted to trade in the grass as lahuertadejuanvaldes.com, semillasdemarihuana.es, growshop.es, cannabislandia.com and seedsamerica.com.

-The Cultivation of imported seed is customary white, says Don Gustavo, a farmer, who owns 5,000 marijuana plants "Corinth". Don Gustavo lives in a village of 26 houses, hidden between a maze of paths. He has three children and a granddaughter of four years that counts the numbers from 1 to 5 in English and does not know what is marijuana and what it does.

Edward, the eldest son of the farmer wants to study civil engineering, but while getting the money to study in Cali is in charge of the family business. The son remembers that one year ago he was commissioned to take twenty pounds of grass to the municipality of Corinto, located an hour by car, to sell to a customer who came from Medellin.

Luz Angela, his mother packed the goods to the rear of the vehicle and the front seat making efforts to not be nothing left out. Faced with excess pounds, the boy, who at the time was 17, had to leave hanging on the copilot's seat window.

'We went with the lit cell and every five minutes we called known living on the road to warn us if there were soldiers. When was about to arrive, the signal was lost and there was only entrust ourselves to the Virgin. My mother, as rare, handled quietly as if sensing something. In a bend we saw an infantry brigade that was unloading bags beside the road, "jueputa!" she said, "jueputa" I thought, "we took the pimps".

While Eduardo tells the story, Luz Angela crosses himself thanking God for being alive. "My mom kept driving without changing the speed. One of the soldiers reached out and pulled the indicating hand we stopped. When we were next to the" pimp "my mom sped up. We started to hear lead, not only back, but mountains, everywhere, I got me as I could and closed my eyes. "

'And they have not come soldiers?

Sure, but it happens League (money) or given a pound of dried marijuana, but that day could not bribe because they were many and when in gang can not do anything.

In the middle of a football field, a couple of men spread a tarp on the grass where they dry several bunches of dried grass. Inside a house, a woman seven months pregnant with hundreds scissors short dry buns that spread on the ground, burying his feet.

It takes six hours cutting and spine hurts from the weight of the belly. His fingers are covered with a black and sticky resin, this resin is hashish, and sold 400 gram weights.

A twelve year old girl displays her uniform skirt under the feet of the pregnant and clean fingers dig branches to remove seeds.

'And you know what is marijuana used? I ask looking at the girl.

-For The flu, and the seeds are to give to the chickens.

The World Health Organization WHO- since 1948 considers cannabis as a harmful drug to humans. In 1997, an article published in the journal New England Journal of Medicine presented a number of medicinal virtues that belie the theory of WHO. According to the publication, Cannabis sativa plant relieves nausea, vomiting and loss of appetite in cancer patients, it also prevents epileptic seizures, calm joints, neuronal and muscle aches and uncover the airway.

The British company GW Pharmaceuticals, with a product on the market called Sativex, corroborates the findings of the magazine tests performed in recent years in Latin America and Europe.

In the mountains the people know the healing powers of marijuana from experience. A group of six Indians, led by chemists at the University of Valle in Cali, process the plant and make special ointments to relieve cough, rheumatism, neuralgia and muscle aches. Apart from the therapeutic use ointment, they are also developing cosmetic products as essences, perfumes and soaps. Because of the illegality of marijuana, the articles are sold within the same area.

If there are people who inhale gasoline and boxers, why not prohibit. Alcohol and cigarettes are more harmful, but all that moves a lot of money, says Don Gustavo in a tone altered. When does calm down, she sees a white, shaven and suede hat is waiting at the entrance of the house character. Don Gustavo is headed for the door and then disappears with the newcomer. Returning says he has a custom-pressing and packing 25 arrobas for the next day.

The press machine is a hydraulic jack on an iron box. Marijuana is placed inside the box with a table top, and pressed with the cat. Prepare each arroba take ten minutes. The grass leaves compact, fully square, and ready to be packed in a black bag, which is covered with tape on all sides for not releasing that smell that sweet smell of the police dogs at checkpoints.

The owner of the squeeze will pay 5,000 per arroba, a week amounts to pack up 70. Traffickers who come to the region, pay a tax on guerrilla 18.000 pesos per arroba. The armed group does not charge any commission to farmers for crops. Weekly of Northern Cauca come up 30 tons to be distributed throughout the country. A pound of CRIPI, in the region costs 250,000 pesos, sold in Bogota 700.000 weights and in Spain for $ 3,000.

The price is expensive for the amount of money given in bribes to policemen who guard the roads and Customs officials in Buenaventura. Port in the south of the country the drug in containers by sea to Panama takes, and from there to Europe.

Before noon the pounds are packed, sealed and organized in a corner of the patio. Don Gustavo has a sore arm and sits on one of the arrobas. In front of him are three chickens pecking the ground for seeds. After long hours of being filled with seeds and pecking they do not have red eyes, do not try to fly, no crow, and neither crashing to the floor or walls. THC is heat activated and for that reason the hens are not "locked", "turras" or "groggys".

After ten days of being in Eden of potheads, we return to Bogota. We soaked clothing with the sweet smell of the grass and keep the bag of marijuana ointment to relieve my daughter's cough. On the plane I think behind a spliff is a lady with seven months pregnant to him, an Indian who knows no malice, a young man who escaped the bullets of the soldiers and a girl who believes column hurts that marijuana only serves to feed chickens and flu.

Of those lives it is actually smoke cannabis which extends in all cities and smoked in all languages.

 

[englishrick]

Is that weed fermented bro,,looks a little mushy and over brown,,

 

[Team Sift]

The Santa brick almost looks like hash.
Save as many seeds as you can, why not start to breed your own "Gold"?