my clone is droopy

[arniewonka]

so i received this last night and put it under the light as soon as i got home. When i looked at it this morning...it is very droopy. Could this just be shock from the move? it is an ak47 clone and was from a strong mother. the humidity is hovering around 40-50 and temp is right on 85. it is in soil mixed with perlite and i am not sure what kind of nutes it was getting. please help

last night:


This morning:

 

[PharmaCan]

It doesn't like being out of the humidity dome. Make a dome out of anything clear plastic, then mist the inside of the dome, not the plant, and cover the plant. It should recover in a few hours. Then, leave the dome on for a day, take it off tomorrow and keep a close eye on the plant. What you want to do is wean it from the dome. That will take you a day or two, but then the plant will be fine.

When you feed the plant, give it 1/4 nutes max. The plant has probably not been fed any nutes up to this point, so you want to start off with a real weak nute solution until the plant is established. If your soil is moist, you don't want to water any more right now.

PC

 

[Boogerman007]

Looks like overwatering?

 

[stinkyattic]

Not overwatering. PharmaCan is correct.
Let me add to that that until you are confident that your clone is fully rooted and acclimated to drier air and stronger light, you might want to keep it in a slightly shady spot away from the halide.

 

[arniewonka]

it is under a 200 watt CFL. i appreciate the input guys. any suggestions on what to use for a dome? maybe a walmart bag? i figured humidity was the issue

 

[stinkyattic]

That's a 3" pot? A gallon sized ziploc will work well- it's going to hold its shape better than a LDPE shopping bag. Stick a chopstick in there too if it won't stand up on its own.

 

[arniewonka]

yah its not very big at all. the clone itself is roughly 6-8 inches tall and is about ready to transplant. so i fashioned me a bubble and spritzed it and now it is under a not-so-bright area in my garden. i used a big piece of plastic... how often should i spray the inside? and do any of you guys/gals know how well plants flower under a 200w cfl?

 

[arniewonka]

correction, the plant is only maybe 4 inches tall and showing new growth at the top, so i am assuming it is close to having a sturdy enough root system for a transplant? again, any input is greatly appreciated

 

[stinkyattic]

You should not need to keep spraying the plastic- in fact, by doing that for too long, you are shooting yourself in the foot by giving the plant permission to continue to take in moisture through the stomata. You want to FORCE it to use its roots. Only mist it if it looks wilty.
I like to let my clones double in size before the first transplant. That tells me that they are firmly established. That looks like it will be fine to stay in that pot another week- at least, wait until it is hardened-off before doing anything drastic.

 

[arniewonka]

it hasn't recovered fully, but it is looking a lot better. I misted it once more for this evening and i will check it in the morning. thanks so much for the input man; we have to stick together. it is about 3 weeks old right now so i think another week or two will do it right. so do i need to keep it under the bubble even though i am not misting it?

 

[WhyWaitforit]

I know this isn't an answer to your question but just passing along good info I learned today.

You need to wipe out the inside of your bag of plastic dome once every day to get everything off there. That might also help to being the humidity down slowly too as it will built up on the inside of the dome... or bag... whatever.

Also how old was it again before you transplanted it to soil when you got it? I've had some problems with stress from transplanting to soil too soon. I try to start now by just packing soil around it while its still in a humidity dome and once they start to take off from the nutes in there i can transplant confidently knowing its already adjusted to its medium. Instead of shocking it twice with less humidity and a new medium at the same time. Just some advice for next time maybe.

Jp

 

[arniewonka]

this is the original container it was cloned in, and the original medium also. good call on wiping the inside of the bag; i will keep that in mind.

 

[stinkyattic]

I've never wiped my domes. I just hit them with a good shot of foaming bathroom cleaner between uses to sterilize, give them a half-assed rinse, and then when I make up my spray bottle for misting the dome, which I only do about once every 4 days, I put a bit of SMC leaf shine in there too to encapsulate any airborne mold spores that might have made their way in there.

 

[arniewonka]

i will keep that in mind for sure. thanks a lot for guiding me. "no tool exceeds the efficiency of one's own knowledge in the realm of ingenuity."

 

[arniewonka]

so i thought we were goin well until this morning. i am transplanting as we speak here and am wondering how to correct this issue please respond fast!!!

 

[arniewonka]

HHHHEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[arniewonka]

i could really use some input guys. i have it back in its humidity dome and it is transplanted into 2 1/2 gallon container with 1-1-3 vermiculite, perlite, organic potting mix.

 

[arniewonka]

i could use some expertise in this thread just one more time. this ak has 2 weeks left before flower time so i would like to get this straightened out. any help will be greatly appreciated

 

[snottyp]

arn, you gotta be more gentle with her shes just a baby~ if shes drooping really hard after you put her under that 200 cfl she probably doesnt have the roots to support that kinda transpiration yet! put her under a smaller watt cfl till she can establish herself. but she does look overwatered so lay off her for a bit. if your soil keeps drying out to quickly move her gently into a bigger pot with some fresh clean soil. looks like you got some major nut problems too. i dont know what happend to her before you got her, but do not fertilize! i dont know if its hurten due to lack of or over nuting but that little girl wont be able to handle these stresses till she can establish some roots. get some slow release organic fert and use it as a top dressing in alarger pot if you want... not too much though. water her when she needs it and take it from there. i wouldnt think about flowering untill she gets some roots under her skirt or untill she gets better. remember you wanna caress that little girl till she flowers. than you can throw everything at her

 

[stinkyattic]

If you've been spraying that plant with plain water there's a good chance you 'reverse foliar fed' it unintentionally. Hit it with a real weak foliar of your GH micro or another equivalent micro supplement.
I'd say transplant into something with lighter soil too- your medium looks a little soggy- you said you were doing that already though, so good.
Keep her away from intense HID light until she's doing some vigorous vertical growing.