My Beauty SSSDH

[militia420]

Man- you guys are making me think I should run these sooner rather than later. I have a pack I bought back in 2015.

Do you think I could get away with doing a micro pheno hunt with 9 of these in one gallon smart pots in a 3x3 tent under a 550 Rspec?

Would it be too cramped do you think? The idea being flower them out small to test them then select the winner(s) for a second run in bigger pots.I would probably only let them veg a week after first true leaves show then flip them right away. Or maybe even 12/12 from seed if necessary?

You better be keeping those seeds in the fridge because their viability is dropping off after 3 years if room temp. I had some of my starters inside and they get huge easily. 3x3 isn't' enough for 9 plants imho. If you can stick em outside or have maybe only 3 plants in that space I think you'd have a better time looking for the right traits. If you're gonna do it, try to do it right. I'd suggest saving the pollen from all males. Take pictures of them with labels in the pics and then record a set of traits descriptions and keep that with the pollen you freeze off. I got pollen from 2015 or 16 that I pollinated my 2017 grow with. Worked well. Still haven't grown out the in crosses yet but the plants were loaded with seeds where I pollinated.

 

[OZZ_]

You better be keeping those seeds in the fridge because their viability is dropping off after 3 years if room temp. I had some of my starters inside and they get huge easily. 3x3 isn't' enough for 9 plants imho. If you can stick em outside or have maybe only 3 plants in that space I think you'd have a better time looking for the right traits. If you're gonna do it, try to do it right. I'd suggest saving the pollen from all males. Take pictures of them with labels in the pics and then record a set of traits descriptions and keep that with the pollen you freeze off. I got pollen from 2015 or 16 that I pollinated my 2017 grow with. Worked well. Still haven't grown out the in crosses yet but the plants were loaded with seeds where I pollinated.

Hoping to squeeze 9 in there was probably too optimistic and a bit hopeful. What about six.... or even four? I was hoping by keeping them restricted in one gallon pots and training I’d be able to keep them smaller until I’ve made my selection at which time the winner would then get ran with the full red carpet treatment (larger pot, single plant run, etc).

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

My original SSSDH and Bx are kept in fridge. The three ladies all from that old earlier 2000’s stock. Hell, I’d of been happy with a male. Concur with militia...these can be stretchy but they can be somewhat tamed indoors. I think you should try 2-3 gallon at least but IMHO.

 

[Bobbo4200]

Dang guys all look great!, nice descriptions! I wish I could differentiate smells, tastes and highs a bit better than I do now.

 

[militia420]

Hoping to squeeze 9 in there was probably too optimistic and a bit hopeful. What about six.... or even four? I was hoping by keeping them restricted in one gallon pots and training I’d be able to keep them smaller until I’ve made my selection at which time the winner would then get ran with the full red carpet treatment (larger pot, single plant run, etc).

You could try four for sure. You go higher than that and shit is going to be every where. I think it would literally interfere with letting each plant show more optimal growth and traits. Cramping them just isn't a good idea when looking for ideal traits IMHO. Even the one gallon pots will host a big MOFO when it comes to sativas. Plus you'll be cramping the roots and again probably interfering with finding ideal traits. You'd be best off trying maybe 4 plants during a run, pick the best female of them, if any are males, save all pollen and pictures. Before they sex, I'd take clones of all. Once they sex, kill all male clones, keep the fem's until you figure out who the queen bitch is, once you have her picked, kill or grow out the other female clones, but do not breed them. The clone of the queen should be grown out enough to clone more of her and keep her on ice as a bonzai mother. You could do multiple grows with separate seeds then repeating the process, and out of each grow getting the best female, then after repeating the process once or more, you compare the best female from the 1st grow, with the best from later grows, and keep the absolute best.


I don't know your entire grow constraint setup but if you're tight you can time some grows with the spring so you can have more space by putting some outside and taking clones while they're in veg, then keep the clones inside to select the best after fruition outside. Lotta different ways to go at it but you really really don't want to provide sub-optimal conditions when trying to find the best traits. The taking of clones in advance also allows you to have the clones on hand for the big smoke test. So if you have clones in advance that are in veg the whole time your experimental ones go into flower and get harvested, you can tell which clones will have the best flavor, odor, and smoke, because you already grew out to fruition a prior run.


Sorry if this is all over the place.

 

[militia420]

Dang guys all look great!, nice descriptions! I wish I could differentiate smells, tastes and highs a bit better than I do now.

Try using herb mullein to clear out excess mucus in your body. That can inhibit the ability to smell things well. Also, if you're desperate and need to smell stuff for selecting breeds try pseudophede or the herb ephedra if your nose is stuffy. Clearing your nose alone will make you taste a lot better. And you can brush your tongue with a toothbush and no toothpaste to get biofilms off. Most people who never get seriously ill never have to worry about that stuff but some can have sub-illness levels of build up that block flavor. I think you'd have to have some pretty serious problems not to be able to smell and enjoy the SSSDH bud though. Holy !@#! it's in my top 5 for smell and high for sure. I actually wish there was a way to trap the odor or imitate it just to stick around the house as air fresheners when I'm not growing. It practically makes me salivate. There's an idea for someone to go market! Air fresheners that smell like the best types of bud! I bet that would sell like hot cakes!

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Grove shots of two of the SSSDH.

#1

#2

#2 is fully 1.8 m, 6 ft. Still stretch to go. I’m a little scared if it gets over 8 or 9 feet. I don’t know how to stake big girls like this.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Well I’m resigned to the fact that these are going to be 10+ footers...probably a few feet more. I’ll have to figure out the supports. The stems will likely not hold the weight these girls are going to put on.

Full sun shots. Here they are side by side. #2 in front.

#2

#1

I’m not keen on #3. Very WLD leaning compared to these two. They will provide plenty of SSSDH to play around with this year.

 

[ojd]

SSSDH loves Super cropping and any training, tying down etc etc. keep training until she stops stretching and it really strengthens the branches and will help hold up her weight come late flower.
The WLD phenos are more Sour dom phenos, most phenos are Haze dom

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

SSSDH loves Super cropping and any training, tying down etc etc. keep training until she stops stretching and it really strengthens the branches and will help hold up her weight come late flower.
The WLD phenos are more Sour dom phenos, most phenos are Haze dom

Thanks, OJD. I’ll be training once I get the rebar in place. I don’t actually mind them taller. I committed to a telescopic ladder to work in the grove because my Purple Haze x Malawi will likely be even larger. The light will be better for them because of surrounding citrus and avocado trees.

Here’s #2 in a buddies back yard potted. She’s looking great. Not as bushed out or tall, but still going to be a nice side plant.

Here been using local tap water which I think is causing the yellowing. The EC in soil seems a little high and the tap is 440 ppm and pH 7.7. No bueno.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

I’ve got original Rez Sour Diesel beans in fridge. If I wanted that, I’d grow it straight. I’m looking for the haze leaning phenos and to hit them with the male OTH I’ve got going.

 

[snel]

Going to be monsters Ur! Lovely looking plants, and a lovely looking place you describe.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Thanks, Snel.

 

[ojd]

Looking great bro, they going to be some nice tree's thats for sure, can't wait to see them come harvest time.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Looking great bro, they going to be some nice tree's thats for sure, can't wait to see them come harvest time.

Nor, I ojd. In the meantime, we live the vicarious veg to early flower

I’ve got to take the shears to the lower larf areas

#1 more diesel leaning Leaf and slightly quicker to flower.

#2 a real hazy beauty

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Sun shots today

#2

#1

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Hey guys. Some updates and questions.

SSSDH #1

Was the middle of three between SD and SSH. I’ve got it planted right next to my fave #2.

Flowering ahead of #2 which is expected since it leans more diesel.

Having bug issues on this one and only plant in the grove.

I totally see white fly engagement and it’s medium intensity.

The leaf makes me worry about spider mites but I don’t see signs of them or webbing.

What do you all think?

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

Here’s #2 right next door. No bug issues yet. Further behind in flowering (yay). Totally hazy leaning.

Much more wood and spice then diesel atm.

 

[Ur Humbl Nr8tor]

PS. I’m hitting these both with an OMRI botanical oil and Garlic concentrate. If you think it’s borg, I’ll have to go deeper into the arsenal. Want to keep it organic, so what do you think?

 

[snel]

Beautiful ladies, hope you can keep them that way. That leaf looks like damage i've had off thrips in the past. Sorry can't advise on treatments, anything with garlic / chilli in though sounds like it will putthem off!