mutated growth-outdoors

[707smoke]

Has anybody seen this type of mutated twisted growth before? I have a 5 different strains doing this starting on the new growth and they are 7 feet tall and pretty healthy. It is only 1 or 2 main branches that do this on each plant. I am positive I do not have russet mites,and they have only had light feedings. Someone I know said it might be a fungus in the soil but I don't know. I know other growers who have experienced this as well.
As a side note the twisted growth was cut off halfway down the main branch and it continued spreading downward until we cut the whole main branch. We let a few of the mutated tops go to see if it would kick back out to normal growth, but it did not. Only 1 or 2 plants that we cut the twisted growth from had a recurrence of bad growth
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[EastBayGrower]

Are all the plants in the garden showing signs? If so maybe ph or water ishigh, that can cause tacoing

If it's only like 20 percent of whole garden then iono man, there's a lot of weird shot going round, spray with need just to be safe imo, neem, warm water, Dr bonnets, and throw some serenade if you think it's fungal... gl

And I'd start doing aact's if your not, those little microbes help out ALOT, I've never had so few issues since going TLO... food for thought, good luck, infermary might be a good place also or cross post atleast...

 

[napalisherpa]

Broad mites. Just about every garden in Calaveras has them, and they look exactly like that. Very hard to scope the eggs, even harder to find the actual bug. I've been dealing with the same issues for the last 5 weeks. I took a tissue sample to dirty biz lab in Arcata and they confirmed it. I'd start spraying asap. Good luck man!

 

[Robrites]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=310770

 

[707smoke]

I already checked with a 100x scope and no russet mites(I've had them before.). I have never had or seen broad mites are they smaller than russet mites? Do the do the same damage?

 

[StanKDanK]

Broad mites. Just about every garden in Calaveras has them, and they look exactly like that. Very hard to scope the eggs, even harder to find the actual bug. I've been dealing with the same issues for the last 5 weeks. I took a tissue sample to dirty biz lab in Arcata and they confirmed it. I'd start spraying asap. Good luck man!

you spraying neem ?

 

[iTarzan]

IMHO that is a combination of heat and low humidity.

 

[Calidude]

IMHO that is a combination of heat and low humidity.

Im curious, how did you come up the idea that heat and low humidity are the culprits?

 

[jbarsk8]

I live in area with high heat (100+) and very low humidity, very dry and that does not happen to healthy plants.

 

[iTarzan]

Im curious, how did you come up the idea that heat and low humidity are the culprits?

I have had that happen when the room gets to hot and the humidity is low. Raised room humidity and turned light down to 750w and it went away.

It could be atypical cal/mag issue too. I have seen another thread about that.

Not everything that happens is textbook picture perfect. Every plant is an individual. Not just strain dependent by plant to plant things can be different.

 

[iTarzan]

I live in area with high heat (100+) and very low humidity, very dry and that does not happen to healthy plants.

It can though. Some healthy plants don't like high temps and low humidity.

 

[therevverend]

When I stick a plant back in the blackberry bushes this often happens. Here's a photo of a PPA I stuck too close to the blackberries and neglected.

My guess is a virus or bacteria? We don't have russet or broad mites this far north (yet) and all the other plants would have it by now. The plant has been moved for three weeks now and is recovering although you can really see the damage on this branch.

 

[therevverend]

You can see yours is a bit different from mine although I'd put it in the same class of ailments. I've seen hot weather cause similar damage as well but yours looks more like a disease. Wish I had a real answer so we could find a real solution..

 

[707smoke]

More mutation pics

More mutation pics

Here are some more pictures of whats happening to multiple strains of outdoor plants. This is not mites or any kind of bug. Has anyone seen this? What is the cause? Sorry my pictures sideways, that's how they uploaded.

 

[Noonin NorCal]

Looks like what Schrews had... When my plants were still vegging outside i had a branch or two doing that. But it's gone now, knock on wood. Only insecticide we been spraying is Azamax and BT

 

[Foreverfamily]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=63055&pictureid=1486998
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=62704&pictureid=1480770

these 2 photos ^^^^^
look like broad mite damage...
best of luck

 

[iTarzan]

That looks different then the pics in the first post. The 2nd and 3rd (middle) pics to be specific. That is what I thought looked like temps and humidity.

These current pics and the 1st and 4th pics of the first post are strange.

 

[707smoke]

I think it has something to do with the soil, maybe a fungus, kind of like curly leaf on peach trees or something like that. I will post a few more pics

 

[707smoke]

This is not mites.

This is not mites.

More pictures of the mutation going on. The reason they look a little different is because these are pics of a few different strains doing this.

 

[Foreverfamily]

i would order some pfr-97 and regalia asap!