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Mushrooms anyone...

Thanks guys. We have all had our caps come off in the bag, etc. I feel like if I know for sure that I will be drying them and storing them, I prefer a nearly closed, barely ripped cap because I think the shrooms' structural integrity persists better for long term storage and every one gets a cap with their shroom, even after drying.

The strain on this grow was B+. I prefer not to sterilize my casing but pastuerize it instead as I survive triderma for a longer period of time and can get usually three flushes out of a cake. What I have found is with a well cased cake, depth of the cake will allow far larger shrooms-- both cake and casing need greater depth. I fruit on a layer of wet perlite in a chamber with a tyvex air intake. The tyvex is taped inside and outside to a 4x6 inch hole in the chamber. So the air has to travel through two layers of tyvex. But I forgot the ceiling of my chamber, so the fruit of my larger cakes kept hitting the ceiling.

The Afficianado
 
You didn't drill any holes for FAE....give me till tomorrow i'll tell you exactly whats wrong...LOOK AT ALL THOSE NOTES...FAN 1-2 TWICE A DAY AND MIST....should have atleast 3-6 FAE exchanges PER HOUR though...Have you been misting?

Patch the white spots and throw into fruiting conditions...you should have atleast 100% rh...but with a casing it doesn't have to be...mist when neaded
 
G

Guest

monotubs don't need millions of holes or multiple fanning. if the monotub can't take care of itself with freeflowing air around it, then you didn't do it right
 

Rabies

Member
I have N/P with shrooms, I grew up in cattle country ,so, i luckily got my fill in my early teens. I still live i cattle country.And here they are everywhere. You can't give them away..I'm not knocking noone . To each his own. I do kinda recall having alot of fun on them.
 

arpnuke

Member
Just popping in to say I love shrooms. I grew some Golden Teachers out over the summer and tripped my balls off. The first time was simply incredible. I remember feeling slightly altered during the come up and thinking it wasn't doing much. Then something flipped a switch in my brain and I started thinking about everything: my life, who I was, my insecurities, emotion, and other people. My friend and I were tripping our faces off, so we just sat around talking about life with some music. There simply wasn't a need for TV or any of that crap.

I had awful anxiety that worsened when I went to college. I would look people deep in the eyes wherever I went. It felt like I was cutting through their wall because I could see in people's eyes if they had good intentions, were happy, etc. It's hard describe, but I knew other people could do this back to me. I felt like an alien in my own skin sometimes. I would come back from class and sleep to avoid people. I hated people and everything that shrooms had done to me. Something had to change, so I posted a thread here on how I felt: http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=72274

Someone PMed me with, "If you think you know too much about people when you look them in the eyes, it is recognition of the human condition. Seek first to understand yourself and you will understand the depths of the eyes that you are staring into." I spent a month smoking a ****load of weed and reevaluating my life. I can't describe the soul searching I did in the written word and I really don't want to. Now my anxiety is completely gone and I feel happy every single day that I'm still around getting to enjoy life. I'm totally confident in myself. Essentially, shrooms helped me kick the scared kid out of me and now things just come naturally. It feels great really connecting with people if they are free enough with themselves to have a conversation.

Mushrooms have been the biggest positive change in my life. Without those hard trips, I think I would still be psychologically hooked on weed and suffering with anxiety. I'm not sure I need to trip anymore. Once you get the message, hang up the phone.
 
1. Your cakes aren't getting any humidification because all your shits taking up all the surface away...use aluminum foil next time and leave the cakes atleast 1-2 inches away from one another .... your cakes aren't getting any rH at all espeicallly the ones in the muffin pan....keep fanning though..its getting some FAE

2. Keep fanning if thats all you have....use a rack in your tub to raise them off the perlite....you should have a 4-5 inch layer of perlite to get even close to 100% rH...Cakes need to be constantly humidified
 
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Bearfootlove said:
ok i put about 4in of perlite in the tanks
lost the plastic trays/muffin tray and have them all on tin foil
gonna drill holes in a minute here (one million to be exact )


no pics the wife wants my time now
and i gotta get off the computer
but i get them up SOON !!

:ying: peace-bear :ying:


No need for 1 million but a lot on each side...i'd say if its a 10 gallon 2 on the bottom...16 on each side so it gets a lot of fae....that's why your shrooms are so small...because theres no humidification...Look at all the knots you have though on your cakes...those are soon to be pins....increase the rH....keep the temps in the low 70s and mist ...if you drill the holes THAT will increase FAE and give you oomies

Happy New Years :asskick:



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3290155/an/0/page/0
A Pinning Strategy


you want to pock some holes in your aluminum over your foil so theres some gas exchange


This is another unclear subject to many, lets clear it up now and forever!

Gas exchange: The ability to release builtup gases resulting from the myc's metabolic activity (consuming substrate). A result of this inability to release these gas creates EXCESS myc piss which BTW is a normal process (myc piss) but an excess is not, it can easily stall a cake. (do not lick your cakes or leave your holes taped) :wink: Simply put it's an exchange in values.

FAE (fresh air exchange) is the lowering of the co2 concentration through the introduction of fresh air plain and simple. A good fresh air exchange includes the stagnated moisture pockets of the casing surface (microclimate).
 
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Some excellent tricks I have learned is:
A) a mason jar filled with water and hydrogen pyroxide with a bubbling air stone provide air current and keeps the cakes humidfied

B) make sure your perlite is soaking before putting it in the tub because unless it is, it will TAKE mositure from the cake rather than supplying it

C) Cut a hole (only one and not a million tiny ones) in the side of your tub and cover each side of the hole with a layer of tyvex-- I use a FedEx or U.S. Mail mailing packet as they are free and can be easily gotten and are an easy size to work with. Spray the tyvex down with water/peroxide solution and keep it moist.

D) Make sure to spray the sides of your tub with the water/peroxide solution

E) Add peroxide to every thing that has or uses water as it will sterilize the water and minimize the contams and makes a great cleaning/misting solution.

With the tyvex and bubbling jar is nearly impossible to starve the cakes for oxygen even if you don't open the chamber for 48 hours or a weekend away.

Just my 2 cents on what has been successful for me.
The Afficianado
 
For the guys talking about DMT (Dimethyl Triptomene Hydrochloride) and talking about how one can stay in a "sacred space" for longer, they have apparantly never done it because anyone who has knows it has a very short half-life for a trip-- under thirty minutes, which is why it was known as "the businessman's trip" back in the late sixties because a person could do it on their lunch hour.

My experience was mainly auditory-- every single thing I heard was about 4 octaves lower than normal, like the aliens talking off of the Axis:Bold As Love album. It was interesting and as a musician I am into anything that lets me hear in a new way, but it was not anything like what I would call "sacred." I would not go out of my way to do it again, and probably wouldn't even if offered.

Conversely, I would absolutely do heroine again. The absolute best drug for a musician to take at least once, in my opinion, if Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide in the form of pharmaceutical Romalar Tablets from Taiwan. Quite simply amazing.
The Afficianado
 
Please don't use peroxide in MYCOLOGY other then to kill of cob web mold because that shit is just annoying. Don't use peroxide, it's an oxidizer, it's only good use in mycology is cobweb mold. Never put peroxide in agar, its an anti bacterial, ANTI-FUNGAL too. Gentemicin for Bacteria, too.

C) Cut a hole (only one and not a million tiny ones) in the side of your tub and cover each side of the hole with a layer of tyvex-- I use a FedEx or U.S. Mail mailing packet as they are free and can be easily gotten and are an easy size to work with. Spray the tyvex down with water/peroxide solution and keep it moist.

once again don't use peroxide...if you want to sterilize your water thats fine its better distilled anyways...the reason for misting is so your cakes don't dry out ...the perlite is giving humidifying...the reason TheAfficianado got trich so fast is because he used peroxide in it....it rubs off the beneficial part of the mycelium that protects it from bacteria/contamination and peroxide shocks it.....the more FAE the better..leave your lid AJAR...meaning alittle bit of gas exchange to excape..and put abunch of holes for FAE ....the more fae the better the pinset...TURST ME..misting and fanning...keeping up the rH will get you huge flushes
 

bird

Active member
man thatz a damn nice mushie. got anymore? j/k this is a great thread. to bad i cant ad too it. keep em growin guys
peace
 
Try using peroxide on your casings...bulk substrates and cakes are 2 totally different things...guarantee you get trich before or after your first flush...sorry bit of an asshole these days...sorry...I wouldn't worry about your cakes because you see the knots....those are going to be pins forming....and I know you'll get a bigger flush since you dunk and rolled em
 
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arpnuke

Member
Bearfootlove, what the hell is the name of that bear in your avatar? I've seen those little guys on blotters and trippy art. What is it?
 
I tell you bear on casings your gonna get a contam when using peroxide...you'll find out though....It's totally different from cakes to bulk subs
 
How should I Mist?
Mist from way above so it's mostly evaporated by the time it drifts down... this adds water vapor more than water, which is what you want.

Thats how to mist
 

robobond

Future Psychopharmacologist
yea I do love my shrooms. For those who disagree shrooms are just as safe as cannabis if used responsibly. also lsd rocks too. unfortunately with the rise of RCs I have chosen to go all natural with shrooms. Hopefully soon I will find a legit cid connect however until then it's happy shrooming for me.
 

The_Leader

Non-Hilocentric
i was gifted 1Og of some purp rings this past sat. theyre sitting here taunting me. iv a bit of a cold, so want to be 1OO% for the trip. .25 is suppose to be 4-6hrs? i will see:) i hope so too. that would mean 2 trips instead of 1:)


everybody at once now...

Yyyyyyeeeeeaaaaaaaa
Shroos oos oos oos
 
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