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Multiple shroom trips over the summer has had an effect on me months later
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WeedWrapperMan said:
That's what I said.
We're responsible for someone not doing their homework? We glorify smoking herb. If someone reads a thread here, goes and smokes some herb, decides that he's having a heart attack due to anxiety/panic, lands himself in the hospital or jail ... we're responsible?
When we say "safe as weed", we are talking physiologically.
Not in the middle of the trip, of course. I've tried that.. thought my space heater was going to eat me.
I think you're making a mistake in thinking that people here are telling other people to go and eat a bunch of shrooms because they won't die from it. No one has said that. Relax.
livewire420 said:http://forums.mycotopia.net/
great place to talk shrooms but make sure to be on ur p's and q's they dont put up with
great people and they all watch each others backs
its my home away from home just like icmag is.
That's where I learned everything I know about:
Mushrooms just shouldn't be taken as a recreational drug. I love them, but i would never take them more than once a month, and after awhile even that is too much. But occasionaly i still like them. I don't take them to get ****ed up, or to relax, they act as a mind of mental purge for me, they force you to confront all the scary shit you got building up in your subconscious, and if you can handle it, you come out feeling cleaner in a way.
arpnuke
Member
Big D said:
I watched that video and he seemed messed up. He looks like he is tripping in most of the videos. I think the brain can take some hallucinogen use, but chronic use really gets to people. I don't plan on taking any psychedelics for a long time. I'd kind of like to try acid once before I die, but this stuff changes you. I can already notice that a bit with my personality, but most of it is good. I have watched the leaves change a bit more every day, I feel like I have a greater understanding of who I am and what I believe, but the over analyzing and depersonalization isn't worth it.
Currently, I'm not sure if I'm glad that I took shrooms or not. The anxiety and stuff will eventually pass, but I don't think I'll be messing with shrooms again. As someone once said, "Once you get the message, hang up the phone." I feel like my life has been improved through better understanding of myself, but any more is just playing with yourself.
Later.
Big D said:
Yeah, you're right. My fault
If you eat a pound of psilocybe cubensis (the shrooms that grow on cowshit, one of many non-toxic shrooms species that makes you trip), you will not die. You realize you trip off a few grams right? If it was so toxic, how come there isn't any lethal amount? So no, it's not "toxic" and you won't die or get hurt from any "toxins" regardless no matter how many you eat, unless of course you're allergic to mushrooms or they are contaminated. You don't trip off toxins. Do you think smoking weed gets you high cause it's toxic? Do you think mushrooms on pizza are toxic?
See what I'm saying?
Let me clarify that though, you could flip the **** out and have a heart attack or some shit, or do lord knows what, cause I mean come on, lb of shrooms your gonna be on the other side of the moon, and hell yeah you'd probably be ****ed up mentally for at least a while,putting it lightly. Not the point I'm getting at here, the point is you wouldn't get poisoned from it or anything. Eat a pound of mushrooms, the kind on pizza, you ain't gonna die or get poisoned unless you're allergic. See what I'm saying?
Oh, and they don't make your brain bleed either.
G
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i didnt read everyones response so if this has been said already just ignore me..
but i believe that when you do shrooms they teach you truths about this world and the nature of people, that may be very hard to accept. innocence / ignorance is like an egg.. once you scramble it, you can never unscramble it. you cant unlearn the things that the mushrooms showed you.. all you can do is learn to accept and live with them. knowledge can be a heavy burden..
but i believe that when you do shrooms they teach you truths about this world and the nature of people, that may be very hard to accept. innocence / ignorance is like an egg.. once you scramble it, you can never unscramble it. you cant unlearn the things that the mushrooms showed you.. all you can do is learn to accept and live with them. knowledge can be a heavy burden..
G
Guest
"You can't unlearn the things that the mushrooms show you"??Do you mushheads hear yourself speaking?At least in other hard drug threads people have their ****in feet on the ground.This shit is laughable to say the least.And Jack if you lived where I lived free shrooms 9 months out of the year I'm sure you'd have fried whats left of your brain haha.Good drug thread people how bouts we talk about some real dope!Heroin!!!The best of the best.Absolute euphoria beyond compare,beats sex to a pulp!Goooood shit!
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Big D said:
look kid, if you quote me telling anyone that they should load themselves up with psychedelics in order to become illuminated, then all your babble may make some sense, but since you won't be able to do that because i never even suggested such a thing, your babble is thus senseless.
the issue here is about your statements about psylocibin being poisonous, a statement that is simply wrong, whether you like it or not. that's it.
pvr.
arpnuke
Member
I've thought about my shrooming experience a lot over the past few days. What my worrying over shrooms boils down to is some of the stuff the thoughts that go through the brain while tripping are pretty incredible. It seems like being on shrooms "enlightened" me, so to speak. My issue with this is maybe it was just my neurons banging together inside my shroomed up head, or maybe they can enhance thought.
I went into it excited and ready to learn about whatever it is you one thinks about on mushrooms. Afterwards, a lot of those ideas were so powerful that they made sense after taking the drug. There are a hell of a lot of people running around out in the world that have taken hallucinogens and many of them experienced some of the same kind of feelings I did. The experience of breaking through on shrooms and forgetting all the barriers that make you, you and just observing the world gives you a different perspective on life.
What puts me off about that drug is stuff like Big D and The American's posts. It does put me off of the mainstream (those that haven't tripped). What if shrooms were such a crazy drug-induced experience that people who ate them have something similar to a religious experience (a trip)? Basically, I'm kind of giving myself a reality check as this topic has gone on.
My own take on it is that shortly after a trip, some ideas may be crack pot shrooming experiences, but some of the thoughts on human nature, goals and experiences as a person, and reflection on life may hold some weight. I know it takes some time to digest those ideas after tripping. My take on frequent trips over a long period of time is that there isn't enough time spent to let the mind mull over what it has encountered to "bring them back to reality", if you will. People like Timothy Leary and other chronic users of hallucinogens seem like they let some of the shroomed out thinking get to them.
Not all revelations while tripping are correct, but some are incredibly valuable. I need more time to sort things out that happened over the summer, but some things from that experience will stick with me forever. I don't know if that is a good or bad thing, yet. I found the comments from people that had experienced hallucinogens to be incredibly valuable and the same goes for the reality check-like posts. I don't see myself tripping in the next one or two years, but I won't rule out the possibility of trying LSD at some point. Thanks for the (mostly
) rational discussion in the thread.
I think what it boils down to is there are two popular views on hallucinogens. One being that the users are all making something out of a drug-induced experience. The other being that there is some real weight behind some of the ideas that people can come up with. I think I've found myself at a crossroads in life and I haven't yet made that call. My anxiety seems to be related to daily toking and a new environment, but I think I was mulling over ideas from shrooming at the same time.
"I don't know what to think about it." I found myself saying that directly after my trip, and I still do today. Mushrooms are incredibly powerful drugs that need to be respected, but I think some good can come from them. Thanks for the excellent thread.
Peace
I went into it excited and ready to learn about whatever it is you one thinks about on mushrooms. Afterwards, a lot of those ideas were so powerful that they made sense after taking the drug. There are a hell of a lot of people running around out in the world that have taken hallucinogens and many of them experienced some of the same kind of feelings I did. The experience of breaking through on shrooms and forgetting all the barriers that make you, you and just observing the world gives you a different perspective on life.
What puts me off about that drug is stuff like Big D and The American's posts. It does put me off of the mainstream (those that haven't tripped). What if shrooms were such a crazy drug-induced experience that people who ate them have something similar to a religious experience (a trip)? Basically, I'm kind of giving myself a reality check as this topic has gone on.
My own take on it is that shortly after a trip, some ideas may be crack pot shrooming experiences, but some of the thoughts on human nature, goals and experiences as a person, and reflection on life may hold some weight. I know it takes some time to digest those ideas after tripping. My take on frequent trips over a long period of time is that there isn't enough time spent to let the mind mull over what it has encountered to "bring them back to reality", if you will. People like Timothy Leary and other chronic users of hallucinogens seem like they let some of the shroomed out thinking get to them.
Not all revelations while tripping are correct, but some are incredibly valuable. I need more time to sort things out that happened over the summer, but some things from that experience will stick with me forever. I don't know if that is a good or bad thing, yet. I found the comments from people that had experienced hallucinogens to be incredibly valuable and the same goes for the reality check-like posts. I don't see myself tripping in the next one or two years, but I won't rule out the possibility of trying LSD at some point. Thanks for the (mostly
) rational discussion in the thread.I think what it boils down to is there are two popular views on hallucinogens. One being that the users are all making something out of a drug-induced experience. The other being that there is some real weight behind some of the ideas that people can come up with. I think I've found myself at a crossroads in life and I haven't yet made that call. My anxiety seems to be related to daily toking and a new environment, but I think I was mulling over ideas from shrooming at the same time.
"I don't know what to think about it." I found myself saying that directly after my trip, and I still do today. Mushrooms are incredibly powerful drugs that need to be respected, but I think some good can come from them. Thanks for the excellent thread.
Peace
G
Guest
You really want to become "enlightened"?Smoke some real phencyclidine if you can find it.Everything about life becomes crystal clear,all questions are answered.Unfortunately as in the case with shrooms its all in your head lol.Enlightenment can only come from within barring all external issues and substances grasshopper.
The American said:
I take it you've never been to a psychedelics forum or talked with people heavily into psychedelics.
The American said:
Mushrooms are not a "hard drug", but I'll let Wiki tell you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_and_soft_drugs
Examples of hard drugs include heroin, morphine, cocaine, methamphetamine, alcohol, and nicotine (tobacco). Drugs in this group are generally described as being physically addictive, easier to overdose on, and/or posing serious health and social risks, including death. Most, if not all, of these drugs are stimulants or depressants. Curiously, some of these drugs (alcohol and tobacco) can be freely purchased by adults; some can be purchased only with a doctor's prescription, and two (heroin and cocaine) are generally illegal, although cocaine is sometimes used legally as a local anesthetic and heroin is legally used as an analgesic in some countries: for example, the United Kingdom. A few analgesics even stronger than heroin—notably, fentanyl—are widely used in the U.S., but are usually administered directly by doctors.
Examples of soft drugs include cannabis, mescaline, psilocybin, and LSD. MDMA and caffeine are sometimes included as soft drugs, see above. The term soft drug is most usually applied to cannabis (marijuana or hashish).
The distinction between soft drugs and hard drugs is important in the drug policy of the Netherlands, where cannabis production, retailing and use come under official tolerance, subject to certain conditions. Other drugs such as psilocybin mushrooms and LSD are also considered soft drugs by many because there is no evidence of physical addiction, and a toxic overdose on these substances requires in some cases, hundreds of times a normal dose. However, it is possible for one to take more than one is psychologically capable of handling which leads to dangerous situations and negative experiences.
The American said:
What are you referring to?
The American said:
I have a refrigerator full of all the free shrooms I will ever need, yet it's been years since I've taken them. Your point?
The American said:
Because that's not the topic of this thread.
I don't get what your aversion is to other people having experiences different from yours. If everyone only did what you did all day long, life would be very boring.
G
Guest
It not you guys fault its mine.I have an aversion to any discussion about drugs on this forum except reefer.I've been clean from opiates close to six months now and a thread that was banned here helped me through weeks of no sleep,then it was banned.The reason given me was this isnt International smackagraphic.OK well this isnt ****in mushroomagraphic either then.Yea,I'm pissy on the subject and KG you can make all the comments you want about me not letting things go.You werent made to look like a wild eyed heroin addict instead of the person getting of the ****in methadone clinic like I was.So take all your thread drugs other than reefer and ban them or let them stand,stop confusing my ass!
WillWorkForBuds
Member
Big D said:
We are explorers, psychonauts. You would be surpised what you can find inside of the mushroom experience. It all depends on how deep you want to go. We are (or atleast I am) talking about responsible, guided trips to explore your mind and your spirit. It is a rite of passage, and I am fortunate enough to have taken that first step without looking back. Now that I have looked back I see people behind us trying to bring us down. I am not worried about my phsychedelic use, why should you be. If your only argument is that it is a "poison" and that we could end up like timothy leary then go waste your time somewhere else. Those are moot points, which are the only kind you can muster up. Why?
WillWorkForBuds
Member
The American said:
Look up Ibogane.
Also there is a no relation between smack and marijuana, but there is a relationship between mushrooms and marijuana.
WillWorkForBuds
Member
The American said:
Thank you for finally letting us know why you are here to bring us down. Truth had to come out sooner or later
