Multiple shroom trips over the summer has had an effect on me months later

[FarmerJoe]

I can agree and disagree with a lot of posts in this thread. All I know are the true facts about mushrooms.

Mushrooms are virtually as safe as marijuana for 99% or more of people, just like there are people who shouldn't smoke weed, there are people who shouldn't do mushrooms, and its a persons own choice and responsibility to assess themselves and decide if mushrooms are something they would want to try. In this day of information it angers me that there is still wide-spread ignorance about the effects and dangers of drugs, its bred by our western culture to pass on "facts" that are nothing but complete BS.

Psychedelic are something you should do only if you think you are mentally stable enough, have the ability to let go and open your mind, and want to try and learn something about the nature of reality and our own existances. They are not poison, they are a tool, and IMO they're something that everyone with an open mind should experience.

 

[FarmerJoe]

...so what went wrong when I did them? too strong of a dose? Bad strain? ...any thoughts?

Dose, Set, and Setting. Some people disagree and say that its a lot deeper than that, but for general purposes, I think it does apply.

A trip will vary greatly on dose, especially when you reach thresholds for certain effects.

The mind set you have at the time you eat them, if you at all anxious or wish you hadn't taken them, thats enough for some people to get hung up on for the whole trip, but generally if you have a pretty good way of just going with the flow, it should be alright.

And where you do them is a big part, I would much rather be out in nature by myself or with fellow trippers than inside of a house or somewhere I know there will be authority figures, or people who may view my use as something bad.

Psychedelics are a blessing, but they need to be respected and understood.

 

[Guest]

mark2k - You're absolutely wrong. THC isn't a poison. Period. Read up on it and you'll see that I'm quite right. I have no problem avoiding this thread if y'all get your facts straight and the administration lets it ride. Having said that ... I don't care what anyone else considers Poisonous to themselves but if 1 kid reads this thread and considers shrooming akin to weed and they can't handle their trip or eat far too many mushies y'all are Responsible. A Low Toxicity Poison is still a poison and anything that can create such powerful visions and feelings should not be categorized as being as safe as weed. Ignorance is bliss until someone gets hurt. It isn't like you can munch away a shroom trip and sleep it off ... now is it ? The amount of harm may be minimal ... but what one experiences on shrooms is Very hard to predict. This makes shrooms far more of a danger than weed as weed is fairly predictable. That's all I will add to this thread so keep your Ignorance in check and we'll all be happier people.

 

[WillWorkForBuds]

"willworkforbuds"...good post bro

I did shrooms 2 times in my life, and the experience wasnt very pleasant at all.

I did shrooms before I ever smoked weed and before I ever drank LQ (Didnt do either until I was about 22)

I dont know if I ate too much (both times was about 1/8th)...or the strain (thats what most people tell me was wrong)

I never do anything w/ the goal of getting "fuked up"...I usually look for insight, and w/ weed I use it to calm myself down.

when I did 'shrooms all I wanted to do was hide in the closet and be left the fuk alone (usually how I feel anyway).

...it made me feel like I was not in controll of my mind, and that REALLY REALLY bothered me.....the next day both times I felt like I was run over by a truck, and I had no energy to even move.

I know people that do 'shrooms all the time and they tell me about how great and insightful they are....and never say they get "hangovers" (for lack of a better term)

...so what went wrong when I did them? too strong of a dose? Bad strain? ...any thoughts?

Yeah I've experienced what you did, its not fun and steers you away from wanting to explore and experience it further. I am not a shaman, I do not consider myself an enlightened individual, nor do I think I am better than anyone on here. I am just an average person who wants to help people learn their true potential and perpetuate their potential downward through the generations.

I cannot tell you for sure why you experienced what you did on mushroom, because you are the only person who REALLY knows you. I cant tell you what the mushrooms really are because of the immense potential of the experience. All I know is that it is a tool to be used properly. If I had to make a speculation on your experience, I would say that you have things in your life that you hold on to and for this substance to try and remove this filled you with fear. Where you go on the mushrooms you cannot take ANY of this with you, nothing. Maybe you arent in control of your brain? Maybe under the influence of psilocybin you arent under control of your brain? The most important thing to remember while tripping is to just let go of all of this and experience the moment right now. If you are running into trouble coming up on the mushrooms try not to think about what is going on at the moment and just experience it for what it is.

Everyday life tries to make you think that you are something that you arent. What american culture and american society tries to tell you contradicts what the mushrooms are telling you. What america has taught you about the individual and the self isnt true. They want you to give away your power to a freak sideshow distraction. Inside all of us is a organic power that dwarfs the energy created by any atomic bomb. You cant HIDE the truth you can only cause distractions to make you look the other way. The mushroom makes you look at what you are, what you have become, and what you will become. You need to use it to align your spirit with your mind and point them in the right direction. We all need a little directional correction once and while. We still have the capacity to evolve to a higher form of life, but not if we continue this ****ed up road we are on, not just us but the whole world. I can tell you for a fact that people with the biggest egos fall the hardest on mushrooms. What you think/feel/see/hear is an immediate threat to what you think you are, what you have been taught to believe, and your mind is deploying a self defense mechanism while the mushrooms try to re-wire it.I do not mean to get all ranty, but when I start I have to finish.

Want some advice for starting your trip off on a good note?

When I trip I CLEAN the shit out my place, every nook and cranny, spotless. I feel more comfortable when clean, taking a shower is key too. The days before the trip I contemplate what I want to explore during the experience. I try to make sure that I keep the days before the trip stress free and relaxed, which can be hard at work. The day of the trip I usually dont eat anything except drink water. I make sure that the place I eat them at can be the place that I might end up being at the whole trip. I usually eat something like bread with the mushrooms. I make sure i am in a comfortable climate and that it will stay that way. I plan out music ahead of time, I get lots of fresh fruit and water in reach. Always have a trusted friend who is comfortable with watching over you. Becareful who you choose, the people around you can influence the path of your trip. I usually like to have a fire going, some classic or classic rock going while laying on the floor or a comforable chair. I Keep a notebook handy to write anything I possible could down. Before eating them I say this prayer:

Teonanacatl, open up my eyes
This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies
Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand
Give me strength to find the path
Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely
This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace
And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
Amen


After you eat them try to meditate and let go of your life or what you think you are in control of. If something happens (a thought/ vision/ feeling) that disturbs you, analyze it and find out WHAT about it disturbs you. Use your frame of mind to work through that which is stopping you from experiencing it fully.Never forget that you dont HAVE to eat them, if something threw off your mindset that week, delay your trip. It will always be there, use it at a good time.Be prepared for anything and last but not least, LEARN and SHARE your experience.

 

[Guest]

Stillll Turripin Dooooooooood.......I did LSD and other hallucinagens well over 100 times in the day and as you can plainly see,I remain unaffectedededededededed.

 

[arpnuke]

mark2k - You're absolutely wrong. THC isn't a poison. Period. Read up on it and you'll see that I'm quite right. I have no problem avoiding this thread if y'all get your facts straight and the administration lets it ride. Having said that ... I don't care what anyone else considers Poisonous to themselves but if 1 kid reads this thread and considers shrooming akin to weed and they can't handle their trip or eat far too many mushies y'all are Responsible. A Low Toxicity Poison is still a poison and anything that can create such powerful visions and feelings should not be categorized as being as safe as weed. Ignorance is bliss until someone gets hurt. It isn't like you can munch away a shroom trip and sleep it off ... now is it ? The amount of harm may be minimal ... but what one experiences on shrooms is Very hard to predict. This makes shrooms far more of a danger than weed as weed is fairly predictable. That's all I will add to this thread so keep your Ignorance in check and we'll all be happier people.

I agree completely with the last part of your post. Weed is "safer" than shrooms in that the effects are much more predictable. However, given enough THC you can die. As they say, everything is toxic in the right amount. The fact is that it's not realistic to overdose on THC or psilocybin. I shouldn't be citing wikipedia, but whatever.

The toxicity of psilocybin is relatively low; in rats, the oral LD50 is 280mg/kg — almost one and a half times that of the LD50 of caffeine. When administered intravenously in rabbits, Psilocybin's LD50 is approximately 12.5mg/kg. [9] Death from psilocybin intake alone is unknown at recreational or medicinal levels.

The psilocybin content of psychoactive mushrooms is quite varied and depends on species, growth and drying conditions, and mushroom size.

 

[HCSmyth]

Meh, before this thread gets closed LSD is way better than shrooms IMHO...

Its safer than coke and smack too...

Weed is about as safe as strong coffee so using cannabis to compare shrooms and LSD is hard.

 

[Guest]

WillWorkForBuds- Wonderful post, and a very healthy way of describing the experience.

 

[WillWorkForBuds]

Meh, before this thread gets closed LSD is way better than shrooms IMHO...

Its safer than coke and smack too...

Weed is about as safe as strong coffee so using cannabis to compare shrooms and LSD is hard.

Thats the problem. As soon as there is potential for someone to get offended for whatever the reason may be, we choose to pull out the censorship card. As long as we can all discuss the topic in a civil matter and not **** it up for everyone I believe we should be able to discuss it, in fact I believe it is IMPORTANT to discuss these types of topics. We dont need to censor the whole topic, we need to root out the problems and let the topic flourish. Nobody should be targted or blasphemized for their thoughts or ideas nor should they be censored. Its all about respect. Maybe if more people utilized respect in terms of theirs and others beliefs more topics would be able to be discussed openly?

 

[NOKUY]

Thats the problem. As soon as there is potential for someone to get offended for whatever the reason may be, we choose to pull out the censorship card. As long as we can all discuss the topic in a civil matter and not **** it up for everyone I believe we should be able to discuss it, in fact I believe it is IMPORTANT to discuss these types of topics. We dont need to censor the whole topic, we need to root out the problems and let the topic flourish. Nobody should be targted or blasphemized for their thoughts or ideas nor should they be censored. Its all about respect. Maybe if more people utilized respect in terms of theirs and others beliefs more topics would be able to be discussed openly?

I totally agree!

If peeps can remain civil in discussions then there wouldn't ever be a need for censorship and thread closings.

sometimes it's hard, but when I get the urge to spout off sum BS I "usually" bite my tongue.

this type of discussion is helpful, and it shoulden't be turned sideways.

 

[arpnuke]

Thats the problem. As soon as there is potential for someone to get offended for whatever the reason may be, we choose to pull out the censorship card. As long as we can all discuss the topic in a civil matter and not **** it up for everyone I believe we should be able to discuss it, in fact I believe it is IMPORTANT to discuss these types of topics. We dont need to censor the whole topic, we need to root out the problems and let the topic flourish. Nobody should be targted or blasphemized for their thoughts or ideas nor should they be censored. Its all about respect. Maybe if more people utilized respect in terms of theirs and others beliefs more topics would be able to be discussed openly?

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[B.C.]

To the thread starter...

To the thread starter...

In time,this too shall pass.Yer gonna be fine,hang in there! Take care...BC

 

[Guest]

Human Nature WWFB,and human preferences of course haha.And lets not forget human experience which is the big one.Talk of some substances are forbidden even when the motive is obviously positive because of cause and effect.How many people do you know that have seriously hurt friends or family over LSD or mushrooms?Now how many have over opiates or cocain?Its just a shame that erb had to become somehow intermingled and entwined with so many other dangerous substances,legally and socially.I figure we can be honest and open about these things though without having to be censored.

 

[floppyfundanglr]

I think that mushrooms are good when used as a tool and not for foolishness. Ive learned a lot from mushrooms. I think the staring into someones soul thing is what it means to be a real human being. When you look into the eyes of another it puts them on the same ground as you. Many people are scared of this cause they feel that they have something to hide...especially those who have not been enlightened by mushrooms or even marijuana.

peace

 

[WillWorkForBuds]

Human Nature WWFB,and human preferences of course haha.And lets not forget human experience which is the big one.Talk of some substances are forbidden even when the motive is obviously positive because of cause and effect.How many people do you know that have seriously hurt friends or family over LSD or mushrooms?Now how many have over opiates or cocain?Its just a shame that erb had to become somehow intermingled and entwined with so many other dangerous substances,legally and socially.I figure we can be honest and open about these things though without having to be censored.

I have used alot of drugs, never heroin, and I can honestly say that most of them in the hands of an normal person is only going to cause hurt and pain which will channel through you onto others. Im not by any means trying to label what I say as the absolute truth or anything like that, I just want to share what I think in hope that maybe someone can benefit from it.

 

[Guest]

"Staring into one's soul thing?"I don't think you know me well enough mister!

 

[arpnuke]

"Staring into one's soul thing?"I don't think you know me well enough mister!

Exactly, it's kind of like when I get myself sketched out it just ends up that way. I feel like it's almost a breach of their personal boundaries that a stranger shouldn't cut through their wall like that.

Well, I've gotten a lot of advice to comb through from here and another forum. I'm going to take a break from checking the forums so that I can focus on work for the rest of the day. Thanks for all the advice.

 

[Guest]

I would say dood but I never say dood we dont do that down here.DOOD,I was just kidding bro dont become sketched out whatever you do!You or anyone else can stare into my soulthing to your hearts content..I might start a soulthing porno site for all paying soulthing starers.

 

[Jack D Ripper]

The American, why are you posting on this thread? you have nothing to contribute and you have NO idea what we are talking about....

why dont you go experience it for yourself, then come on back and see if you still want to crack wise about it.

 

[livewire420]

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great people and they all watch each others backs
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