Multiple shroom trips over the summer has had an effect on me months later

[marx2k]

Point being, I would like to see extensive (or really any conclusive) reporting on prolonged/sustained psychological aftereffects of mushrooms that can be proven was not a pre-existing condition.

I freak out on mushrooms as much as the next guy, but as I said, there's no need to fearmonger with:

"Mushrooms are poisonous... it is the poison that makes you hallucinate.
Fun...yes! But not very smart. Some after affects of prolonged use you will not recover from. I mean its forever!

Be cool and stay away from that stuff!"

That just sounds like scare tactics of the uninformed

 

[WillWorkForBuds]

doesn't mean others haven't or that it is Safe or acceptable to discuss here at IC Mag

Which is complete utter bullshit. Weed is a psychedelic too, eating enough weed is comparable to a mushroom trip but in some ways not close at all.

Good or bad trip, its about what you learn and take back from it that matters.

 

[Jack D Ripper]

theres no doubt that mushrooms will make you rethink your life, but theres no harm in that. Its good for us.

Any traumatic experience (drug induced or otherwise) can bring out latent psychological problems... and theres nothing more traumatic that a terrible trip

 

[Guest]

WWFB - I don't feel that it is acceptable to discuss shrooms or shrooming here. Am I not entitled to my opinion ? How is what I posted bullshit ? What exactly am I wrong about ? Are you suggesting psilocybin isn't a poison ? Are you suggesting shrooms are as safe as weed ? Maybe the shrooms you've eaten and the weed you've smoked differ from the shrooms I have eaten and the weed I've smoked ... I see a large difference in the experiences.

 

[Sheriff Bart]

psilocybein/psilocin are basically no more posinonous than seretonin
youd have to eat punds of dried shrooms to overdose
psilocin is like 4-oh-dmt
dmt is a nice chemical for/from your body
they are not poisonous by any means!
psychological effects on the other hand can produce profound physicals effects
be sure when tripping

 

[Guest]

dude seriously u ate some mushrooms, its not like ur strung out on PCP...the fact of the matter is u ARE different now, psychedelics change u when u do them, in some physical ways but mostly mental...the challenge is to integrate all the shit u experienced into your day-to-day persona...personally i would say u tripped too often in too short of a time but that just means its going to take a little while to get comfortable again...i would not be posting about how these mushrooms have screwed u up, i would post about how folks should respect psychedelics and not bite off more than they can chew when doing them...from now on don't jump into your next trip till u have all the loose ends from ur previous trips tied up...


too much of any good thing can be bad for u...

 

[UNTER dude]

i saw this post on TCC

just like those goons said, it's probably just anxiety.

 

[genkisan]

You know how some people need religion to explain life and all this shit and to feel like they can be saved or have hope? I feel the same exact way about mushrooms. They give me hope and they show me the beauty in things as well as the evil. I am able to let everything go and transcend all this physical nonsense bullshit we have turned our lives into. After every trip, good or bad, I feel reborn and parts of life gain back their meanings. That primal instinctual feeling of pure energy helps me keep my faith in the human race and in myself. Too bad its the only thing left.

Its a tool, not a toy.

Bingo.

 

[Guest]

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[marx2k]

[...] How is what I posted bullshit ? What exactly am I wrong about ? Are you suggesting psilocybin isn't a poison ?

That is correct. Psilocybin/psilocin is not a poison. It's like saying THC is a poison.

Are you suggesting shrooms are as safe as weed ?

Pound for pound, physiologically, that is correct.

Maybe the shrooms you've eaten and the weed you've smoked differ from the shrooms I have eaten and the weed I've smoked ... I see a large difference in the experiences.

That's psychological experiences. You were not poisoned, and no matter how much you thought the opposite at the time, you had no chance of dying from it

 

[Big D]

Psilocybin/psilocin is not a poison. It's like saying THC is a poison.

What I stated is the truth. And what you are saying is just ignorant.
Just read up and you will learn.

I have probably done more mushrooms than anyone in this thread. I speak from experience.

As far as fear mongering... it is awfully close to halloween.

 

[AlaskaGrows]

if you have a great mindsite going into the mushroom trip u will have a great trip!!!

obviously you took WAY too many shrooms! i would never eat more then once a month or once every 2 months!!! and i am a stable kind of guy! not one to go 'freakin' out!

(experienced 2 fabulous shroom trips as of yet)

 

[BrainBoy]

What I stated is the truth. And what you are saying is just ignorant.
Just read up and you will learn.

I have probably done more mushrooms than anyone in this thread. I speak from experience.

As far as fear mongering... it is awfully close to halloween.

Psilocybin, psilocin and psilocybian mushrooms have very low toxicity - in tests with mice, doses up to 200 mg of pure psilocybin/kg of body weight have been injected intravenously without lethal effects (that would be 13 grams of pure psilocybin per average human (65 kg / 140 lbs). The ED50:LD50 ratio is 641 according to the NIOSH Registry of Toxic Effects; compare this with 9637 for vitamin A, 4816 for LSD, 199 for aspirin and 21 for nicotine. According to Leo Hollister, Jonathon Ott, and John W. Allen, one would have to consume their body weight in fresh mushrooms or eat approximately 19 grams of the pure chemical substance to bring on death. As long as Psilocybin mushrooms are properly identified, poisoning is not a problem.

I'm going to trust erwid.org over you posters saying that shrooms are posionous because honestly they are harder to overdose on then aspirin. I've never tried shrooms, and if I do try them it will be a one time thing. People have always explained their affect as almost spiritual if taken in the right setting. Respecting the substance your taking is important.

 

[Guest]

shit man, i get all those ****ed up effects even though i've never too kshrooms! least not to my knowledeg there's a chance somone spiked my bong with mushrooms the first time i got high cuz that was the most out of it feeling i've ever had. well apart from salvia anyway. i find weed can make you over analyse stuff that and some people struggle to handle it, just go with the flow man and don't let it worry you. listen to 'don't worry be happy' and it will make you feel better.

 

[arpnuke]

Shrooms/LSD seem to be no more harmful for your body than a weed cracker. The real danger of those drugs seems to be unexpected reactions because the personality plays a big role in how the drug plays out. Don't spread any of that "the blue stuff on top of shrooms is the poison that makes u trip lol" crap. There is enough misinformation out there as it is.

I posted this on another drug forum, too. This is a response I posted on somethingawful:

I'm a brand new university freshman and I'm feeling a lot of anxiety, stress, weird social paranoia and just general anti-social feelings. These were going on before I started smoking pot (around the beginning of October, although I used to smoke a couple of years back), and I haven't done shrooms in years. I've realized that pretty much everyone has these feelings their first year, although a fair deal of people probably cope with it better than most. It really is normal, especially when you live in dorms (like I do), what with the "moving out for the first time" thing. Although living in a dorm feels more like living in a really overpriced, shitty motel, rather than having my own place.

I am REALLY looking forward to moving out however. One thing I've realized is that I don't like living with a large amount of people (an effect of being in an immigrant with no family but my immediate one anywhere close). Plus all the various rules and events make me feel like I'm living in a high school.

To be honest, I think I'm a bit embarrassed about my paranoia and especially what I would call anti-social feelings. Maybe it was easier for me to peg my issues on shrooms than deal with them. I feel pretty comfortable in the dorms, though. Most of the people on the floor know each other and it's a cool atmosphere. I can't wait to move into an apartment next year, though. I'm a very private person and I miss the opportunity to be alone and think.

The lack of private space is highlighted by my flamboyant, closet gay roommate (I asked, he is) that plays Final Fantasy XI (similar to World of Warcraft) rather than sleep at night. He's a really friendly guy and is obviously tormented by kids during the day. We have polar opposite personalities, but I feel like we are both "good" people even though we disagree on damn near everything. It's a shame that people pick on others throughout the day to build themselves up.

The most important thing seems to be not to give up hope. I'm not anywhere near being hopelessly ****ed up, but it seems off when dudes are tag teaming some girl down the hall and I'm trying to get a date. Taking some time off from weed and working on myself should improve how I feel.

 

[Big D]

I never said anything about shrooms killing you or overdosing. Ofcoarse they have a low toxicity... that is why they are affective. The fact is is that it is a poison. Period.
I was replying to a guy(the thread starter) who is experiencing the very after affects I spoke of and was telling him why.

If you need spiritual enlightenment then eat up!

 

[BrainBoy]

Hey buddy I'm a freshman too this year and I feel you on the dorms. I came from a very small highschool and living with all these people sometimes makes me feel like I need some space, but theres always just taking a walk and chilling out if you need it. As for the dudes tag teaming some broad down the hall, don't worry bout it. It's college there are girls out there as long as you have some personality theres someone out there who will dig you. You don't wanna get with the girl thats getting tag teamed anyways. I'm pretty sure your not ****ed up, keep it real man.

 

[WillWorkForBuds]

WWFB - I don't feel that it is acceptable to discuss shrooms or shrooming here. Am I not entitled to my opinion ? How is what I posted bullshit ? What exactly am I wrong about ? Are you suggesting psilocybin isn't a poison ? Are you suggesting shrooms are as safe as weed ? Maybe the shrooms you've eaten and the weed you've smoked differ from the shrooms I have eaten and the weed I've smoked ... I see a large difference in the experiences.

In my eyes, no its not a poison. You know whats a poision? Almost everything that this culture and society feeds you in America. The shit you watch on TV is a poison. Most of what we are presented with to consume is a poison. Our government is a poison. The fear perpetuated by America is a poison. Our money system is a poison.Our religious institutions are a poison.

My homegrown mushrooms are a poison? Well shit, you drink enough water and you will die, is water poisonous? I have never heard of anyone dying DIRECTLY from eating mushrooms. Being a complete idiot and using mushrooms and dying indirectly because they were uneducated and in a bad setting? That is what all the cases are.

Treat mushrooms like a loaded gun. If you do not know how to use it, then dont **** around with it until you are educated and KNOW what you are doing. With mushrooms it is ALL about set and setting and more importantly your INTENT. What do YOU want to gain out of the experience. Dont blasphemize the mushroom because of some stupid people. Thats like saying that guns are dangerous, no YOU are dangerous.

You want to get totally out of this world ****ed up? Yeah you can do that, might have a fun time, or the mushrooms might man-handle you.

You want to learn something that you can take back with you? Yeah you can do that too, but just be prepared for anything. I believe the whole purpose behind the mushroom trip is to learn about yourself, nature, and your place in this world. To see how EVERYTHING is inter-connected and there are no coincidences.

All that whack ass shit you see while on mushrooms, thats just the tip of the iceberg. When you are sitting there looking at the wall and watching it fractal out into infinity and morph and swirl, that is your brains last chance of distracting you from what is behind it all. All you have to do is break on through to the other side.

 

[NOKUY]

"willworkforbuds"...good post bro

I did shrooms 2 times in my life, and the experience wasnt very pleasant at all.

I did shrooms before I ever smoked weed and before I ever drank LQ (Didnt do either until I was about 22)

I dont know if I ate too much (both times was about 1/8th)...or the strain (thats what most people tell me was wrong)

I never do anything w/ the goal of getting "fuked up"...I usually look for insight, and w/ weed I use it to calm myself down.

when I did 'shrooms all I wanted to do was hide in the closet and be left the fuk alone (usually how I feel anyway).

...it made me feel like I was not in controll of my mind, and that REALLY REALLY bothered me.....the next day both times I felt like I was run over by a truck, and I had no energy to even move.

I know people that do 'shrooms all the time and they tell me about how great and insightful they are....and never say they get "hangovers" (for lack of a better term)

...so what went wrong when I did them? too strong of a dose? Bad strain? ...any thoughts?

 

[Wildfire]

'delics suck in my opinion

well they arent recreational by a long shot. they definately shouldnt be taken by the weak-of-mind or people who have problems with insecurity. they arent for all but they definately dont suck, i am who i am because of the self-exploration and sheer magnificence i experienced via these tools.

also yukon, i think an 1/8 is a bit much to start off with. i think 1.5-2 grams is a good amount to test the waters. it all depends on body chemistry really. also, there are certain strains that seem to have a lot more of a skullfuck effect. asian strains particularly make me hate life, lol.