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Motherlode Gardens 2014
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no fence yet, just got the posts in from last year. we didn't have many issues with deer last year so probably will skip the fence this year too. We do have cameras over the garden so we can see if deer are in there at night.
Transplant shock sucks. We went through it all last year, so far we have managed to avoid any major issues this year except a couple plants.
Any particular new steps or procedures you're taking, different than last year? Or just more experience & better luck in not getting them as root-bound by transplant time?
How long did it take for them to snap out of it last year, and did they ever recover their full vigor / health? Or were they lagging along the rest of the season?
I think my plants being stressed is causing me more stress than the plants.
The main thing this year is we vegged our starts in coco, in #5 and #7 smartpots. even when they got a bit big for the pots we just watered more often and they did not get rootbound. IMO coco is better than soil for vegging plants in containers.
Last year our transplant problems were sudden and severe. we made many mistakes including
-seedlings started indoors in 12oz red plastic cups, stayed in red cups from april-june (rootbound as fuck)
-transplanted abovementioned seedlings from their indoor 600w light to the intense sunlight that we have out here, without any time to adapt. This alone fried half our starts and we had to pull them and put new clones in.
-after transplant and losing half our starts to heat/sun, we overcompensated and the plants were overwatered, roots did not grow to fill the whole pot as a result. Only a few vigorous ladies managed to perform despite all these things. we were lucky to get 3-4lbs off a few of them.
Grow Nerd if your transplants havent exploded after a week you should probably pull them and put in something else... At this point in the season it's better to plant a fresh clone rather than try to work with a stunted plant. Some of our best plants last year were late replacements. Animal Cookies clones put out in july yielded over a pound each, probably could double that easily with a different strain.
Old timers when doing GGs would use B-1 to help TP shock
That's funny, because I've been mumbling to myself the past several weeks about how I never seemed to have issues with being root-bound in coco. I first noticed the transplant shock on the light dep GH plants, and although recovered now, I think they could have been much bigger if I had let them recover a bit before flipping.
Short of being somewhat root-bound, my plants were looking pretty good while indoors... but the wind & cold nights coming from being sheltered indoors isn't helping on top of the transplant shock.
What pH range did you veg your coco plants at, what is your pH for the first week or so after transplant? From my experience in coco, I ran hydro-like pH ranges (mid-5's to low-6's), and wondering how to transition the watering after transplant when going coco to hydro.
Or vice versa. All this has me re-considering soil and maybe doing half the size containers in coco instead (200gal coco vs 400gal soil).
How are your night time temperatures, and how about wind? It can get pretty windy where I'm at, I'm wondering if it's worth building some sort of windbreak wall.
Thanks for the detailed and useful information. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one to experience this.
not a bad idea... i like the Thrive Alive green bottle for B1. use it for soaking rockwool for clones too.
When we did it it was 25plants stripped down to
Roots haha and stuffed in gal zip locks so they had
A lil TP shock. If I have it I hit mine with Superthrive
Then a dusting of Oregonism from Roots and be
Done with them
I really am liking your thread here man. Girls lQQkin
Mighty fine
I'll be watching out for that Ancient OG, what's she smell like?
grow nerd i used to have many issues with transplant shock as well, completely eliminated it this year, everything hit the ground running and were putting on inches within a few days.
my main method this year involved getting all my starts out early under natural sunlight/supp lighting in mid april into the hoop house, planted into 7 gallon containers with a soil/perlite mix. about a week and a half prior to final planting, i top dressed the shit out of all the starts and they all "caught" and took off really hard in the greenhouse. as soon as i noticed them growing an inch per day, i plugged them into the mounds and watered them in real good.
also let my soil "cook" for a good 3-4 months, kept it wet with waterings and teas, got the microbiology going early. getting your soil trucked in a week before planting = shock and burn.
timing was also key as well…you dont want to plug your smartpots/mounds on a stretch of hot intense days. we timed our planting perfectly with a small overcast system on may19-20. the sun was only out a few hours at a time, and it rained lightly on everything overnight. I've noticed that plants really go crazy after a rain, i couldn't have imagined a smoother transition this year, literally not a single burnt leaf in the entire garden.
my main method this year involved getting all my starts out early under natural sunlight/supp lighting in mid april into the hoop house, planted into 7 gallon containers with a soil/perlite mix. about a week and a half prior to final planting, i top dressed the shit out of all the starts and they all "caught" and took off really hard in the greenhouse. as soon as i noticed them growing an inch per day, i plugged them into the mounds and watered them in real good.
also let my soil "cook" for a good 3-4 months, kept it wet with waterings and teas, got the microbiology going early. getting your soil trucked in a week before planting = shock and burn.
timing was also key as well…you dont want to plug your smartpots/mounds on a stretch of hot intense days. we timed our planting perfectly with a small overcast system on may19-20. the sun was only out a few hours at a time, and it rained lightly on everything overnight. I've noticed that plants really go crazy after a rain, i couldn't have imagined a smoother transition this year, literally not a single burnt leaf in the entire garden.
What's up with this mother load stuff? I moved up into the Sonora area and lots of places have the mother load name. Are you part of the mother load hydro store in Sonora?
it refers to the massive gold deposits in the area,
exactly.. listent to this man! also i like to do transplants in the early morning or right before sunset.
All our plants are taking off, except a few gorilla glues which also happen to be the oldest plants in the garden. we will see what happens.
I think the 7' concrete mesh is pretty stable just by itself, but maybe if wind is an issue you might want a t post also.
We are probably going with 2 layers of cages this year, and then netting.
We have been going thru some shit these past few days, trying to make this season happen on a shoestring budget. Multiple trips across the state just to move product just to make rent and keep the train going. Dealing with the new plant limits that lead to quite a few run-ins with the law which are the main reason for the financial issues... Not to mention hundreds of murdered plants, a spoiled plan for spring light-dep, If we make it through this summer i will be surprised honestly.
At least the plants are healthy. One of the Uncirculated OG x Pre-soviet Afghanis is doubling in size weekly, and our Bodhi plants are starting to bulk up a bit
At least the plants are healthy. One of the Uncirculated OG x Pre-soviet Afghanis is doubling in size weekly, and our Bodhi plants are starting to bulk up a bit
the Ancient OG smells/tastes very "OG kushy" but also with some earthy overtones from the Snow Lotus lineage. We have 2 Ancient OG's on the hill, hoping for good phenosI'll be watching out for that Ancient OG, what's she smell like?
thanks! we are definitely lucky to have this garden near Yosemite. it has been a difficult journey but everyday up here on the hill is worth it. peace
OrganicOdins420
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Your girls are looking very nice.
Great to see all the energy you put into your grow.
In this world, regardless if it's drink, or smoke, you're either a go getter or you aren't.
I been smokin some fire for a few decades now, but a pothead/lazy guy I'm not.
You'll go far with your hard work
Don't know if we'll see too many similarity in our strains.
Every province in Afghanistan has a 1000 growing families with many unique features in there favorite lines.
They are chosen more for climate compatibility and heavy trichomes for hashish.
No one true landrace anywhere, but rather hundreds.
We do the same things for our own regions, only difference is us US growers love our variety of flavors and scents.
Here is a pic of my 2x afghany I have called Jihad for 33 years.
Original cuts this old are very hard to find.
But you can see the old time kush traits common in many present day kushes.
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This plant was only 3' tall and will drop about 10 ozs.
The bud is some of the densest, heavy bud I've grown.
Gonna be fun watching your grow
I love this craft, and love watching others with the same passions.
quite the genetics
