Mother shoots daughters rapist.

[blackone]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3685448&page=1


I say give her a medal

 

[PoppinFresh]

I commend her as well. The only thing I find sad about it is that this is a one in a million case. A lot of people go through this kind of stress and frustration and have their hands tied by a generally inept and incompetent police force. Unfortunately, we live in a society in which we're taught that someone else is supposed to protect you. You're not to protect yourself. You're not to protect your family. You're not to protect others, if you can. You're to call someone else to come help - dial 911. If you go against these things, you're the animal. You're the out of control one. You're the criminal. I don't think she deserves a medal for doing what she ought to do to protect her family. Don't get me wrong. What she did was courageous. But, I feel as though it's something any of us should do. I think she deserves a medal for going against this legal and injustice system that takes away our ability to protect ourselves, friends, and family. I think our politicians need to stop tying our hands behind our backs while criminals get away with murder, or rape. We ought to stop being treated like children. I feel bad for the thousands of people who have done the same thing and have suffered anything from prison terms to execution. And, I commend the one juror who had the balls to stand up against the others and do the right thing. We need more people like her throughout this entire nation from mom and pop shops to the presidency.

 

[Boxy Brown]

if she killed him while trying to help he daughter while she was being raped then I would not see a problem with this, but she did not do this in defense but in revenge and that to me is unacceptable in modern society.

"Nearly five years later, in the fall of 2003, Amanda's mother, Kimberly Cunningham, finally learned of the alleged attacks"

"Kimberly got into her car and drove to the tool company where Hundley worked. She called him out into the parking lot. Cunningham said that she was praying he would deny the rape. Instead, she said Hundley, 39, laughed at her"

"Kimberly shot him five times, reloaded the weapon and fired five more rounds, killing him"

 

[Moppel]

but she did not do this in defense but in revenge and that to me is unacceptable in modern society.

that doesnt count when there are children involved.

She should have peeled of his skin....

 

[Boxy Brown]

that doesnt count when there are children involved.

I have to disagree with you there.

 

[PoppinFresh]

if she killed him while trying to help he daughter while she was being raped then I would not see a problem with this, but she did not do this in defense but in revenge and that to me is unacceptable in modern society.

actually she did do it in defense. she feared for her life and the life of her family. remember that dude threatened that no one would find her body.

if you ask me, she would be in her right mind to put a few in the son too. but i guess that'd be overboard. but i'm in a yakuza mindset in this situation. you don't leave anyone behind that could come back for you later. i wish i had a crazy japanese fable or story (i can't find the right word) for what i am saying. but anyway, she needed to do it. too much tension around. besides, it would friggin suck if any one of us moved into that neighborhood, befriended this rapist and our own children (which I have none of) got hurt by this predator. sometimes we have to recognize, admit, and give credit to the people who really do this world a favor.

 

[Boxy Brown]

actually she did do it in defense. she feared for her life and the life of her family. remember that dude threatened that no one would find her body.

she could have easily gotten into Witness Protection or moved far away, but no she decided to take it into he own hands.

 

[PoppinFresh]

she could have easily gotten into Witness Protection or moved far away, but no she decided to take it into he own hands.

but why should she have to move away? why should she have to give up her freedom? if the police weren't helpful in the first place, how would she even get witness protection? i could come at this 100 different ways. what if she doesn't have the means? what if she did not have the courage to face such a big move? uproot her family, secure a new job? what if she moves to another area with the same kind of person and her daughter and son get raped again? what does running away teach the daughter? son? how would her children deal with just running away? what would her children do 5, 10, 15 years from now if mom didn't do anything today? she may not have even bothered to answer any of those questions for herself.

i understand what you're saying - killing is wrong. i respect that view totally, but i disagree with your absoluteness.

 

[DogBoy]

Her only mistake was getting caught. He commited a heinous crime and laughed at her as he got away with it. She wasn't so lucky. That mum/daughter bond is far stronger than any social conditioning society imposes. It's unsurprising she did it. I bet every woman here would do or at least want to do the same.

 

[Boxy Brown]

"but why should she have to move away?" - obviously to stay alive and prevent something bad from happening.

"why should she have to give up her freedom?" - I don't see how moving away to avoid being killed is giving up her freedom.

"if the police weren't helpful in the first place, how would she even get witness protection?" - by contacting the FBI instead of the local cops.

"what if she doesn't have the means?" - that revolver of hers could have fetched her a couple hundred bucks which is enough to get a train or bus ticket.

"what if she did not have the courage to face such a big move?" - no courage to move and yet she still manages to shoot that guy 10 times.

"uproot her family, secure a new job? " - please elaborate here.

"what if she moves to another area with the same kind of person and her daughter and son get raped again?" - then she goes through due process and has that person put in prison, but don't you think she would maybe be a little more careful in the future about who she lets around her kids?

"what does running away teach the daughter or son?" - and what dose killing a person teach them?

"how would her children deal with just running away?" - they would probably deal with it just fine, I know I would.

"what would her children do 5, 10, 15 years from now if mom didn't do anything today?" - I think by then they would have taken it into there own hands and had that guy locked up.

 

[DogBoy]

Boxy,

You obviously hold the abilities and willingness to help of the authorities very highly. I commend your confidence in your local law enforcement. Most of the rest of us however have had our lives blighted in some way and are often unable to share your confidence and sense of social rightness.

I'm glad you have evidently not felt the pain, heartache, frustration and financial loss the rest of us have. I hope your luck continues to hold.

 

[BadKarma]

If we had more people in this world like her we would have less people in this world like Him and that would be "And Justice For All" IMO

 

[Guest]

modern society is a joke for that very reason...there is nothing civil about rape and when it happens to you or one that you love...society matters no more..i hope boxy you never have to learn this...and you never have to loose your head and take another life because my friend we all have a line...all that has to be done is to be pushed over it and all that bullshit your saying goes out the window.....and thats the real no matter who you are even a judge...

if she killed him while trying to help he daughter while she was being raped then I would not see a problem with this, but she did not do this in defense but in revenge and that to me is unacceptable in modern society.

 

[Pimpslapped]

if she killed him while trying to help he daughter while she was being raped then I would not see a problem with this, but she did not do this in defense but in revenge and that to me is unacceptable in modern society.

You know, I have to both agree and disagree with Boxy here. In an ideal world, these things wouldn't happen but as we all know our world is far from ideal.

In my view, the mother committed murder. I'd go so far as to call it premeditated, given the circumstances. But on the same note, I would consider it to be a 'justifiable' homicide. At least to a degree. Was what she did the right thing, the moral thing to do? No.

But given how easily people slip through the cracks of the system, the risks involved to her lives and the lives of her family... I can see how she felt that there was no other viable option for her to take. That and she had to have a serious mad on, reloading and then dumping another full load into a twitching body... that's serious.

I can't say that I wouldn't do the same thing she did... but if I did it, I'd do so in the full knowledge that I was likely going to do time for it. After all, when you take the law into your own hands, the lawmakers don't like it.

 

[Guest]

you see my friends in society we cover up that we are indeed animals...until something comes along and rips all of those clothes rite off of us and we know we are indeed primal..if pushed far enough...fake all you want...we are animals...and who knows what you would do...not you thats for sure and thank your lucky stars you dont...you would be surprised what you would do if put in the rite situation

 

[Feyd]

Child molestors, rapists, and anyone who sexually abuses a child should be put to death. ****ing firing squad style.

They should allow the family members of the victim to participate. I know I would.

 

[George]

you see my friends in society we cover up that we are indeed animals...until something comes along and rips all of those clothes rite off of us and we know we are indeed primal..if pushed far enough...fake all you want...we are animals...and who knows what you would do...not you thats for sure and thank your lucky stars you dont...you would be surprised what you would do if put in the rite situation

very very very true!

 

[DogBoy]

Pimp slapped, well put argument.

I'd love to hear her side of the story instead of a news reporters thoughts. Bet that makes for sad reading.

 

[Fat Albert]

My only problem with this is what it may lead to down the road. Scumbag rapist deserved what he got, absolutely.

But the problem is this: if we allow revenge/retribution/vendettas to set the bar for our actions and reactions, we'll end up like Albania. They've got a nasty system of feuding where families will keep killing each other in retribution for a previous death. There are grown men in Albania who haven't left their houses in years (LITERALLY), for fear of retribution. You can imagine what this does to a country's economy, never mind their psyche.

I also have a Sicilian sister-in-law. This is 2007, Anno domini, and Palermo is still a bloodbath from rival factions bumping each other off.

This probably will never happen, but we have to remember that there is a dark side to vigilante justice.

Having said that, I hope that scumbag enjoyed his last laugh....

Cheers!
Fat A

 

[Guest]

Boxy,

You obviously hold the abilities and willingness to help of the authorities very highly. I commend your confidence in your local law enforcement. Most of the rest of us however have had our lives blighted in some way and are often unable to share your confidence and sense of social rightness.

I'm glad you have evidently not felt the pain, heartache, frustration and financial loss the rest of us have. I hope your luck continues to hold.

good post dogboy, this is very true for me and many people i know, the law jumps at every opportunity to punish and fine us while they remain lackadaisical in the face of true crimes of humanity....im not saying they dont fight "real" crime but they do an awful lot of fining, profiling, searching and arresting it makes me wonder when they have time to take care of the major issues....legalize it and that will aid in reducing prisoner numbers in over populated jails, legalize and there will be more money in the pockets of consumers aiding in revitalizing our nations failing economy, legalize it and you will allow people to break the manacles of the major pharmaceutical companies by growing their own medicine. there are too many benefits of this plant that go unnoticed, yet they would change our country profoundly for the better.