mother from clone of a clone

[johnkneefive]

can i clone my mother plant and grow the clone to anew mother without losing any quality?

i had a nice mother but it went wild from lack of light ..so can i start over from cloning her ?

thank you

 

[smokeymacpot]

yes

 

[Lofty]

genetics follow thro, take a few cuttings b on the safe side. i dont even hav a mother i just take cutting off each plant b4 they go into flower and i dont get any loss in yeild or quality.

i've been running the same strain for 2 years and i'm flowering wat is prob on the 12 generation of the first cone i did.

 

[Guest]

If the old maother plant has started to preflower,go towards the bottom of the plant and pull a couple cuttings with zero pistils,you dont want pistils on your new mom

 

[Bulldog]

I've been doing it for years.

Works fine.

 

[Guest]

Doing what for years?Taking cuttings from clones or using a clone as a new mom?Either way its all groovy.As long as you take your cuts before you switch the donor plant to 12/12,everythings beautiful

 

[Bulldog]

Sorry man, it's been a smokey morning-lol.

I meant taking cuttings of cuttings.

 

[James Morrison]

I remember reading a thread about this on OG...I agree with all the above comments but I remember arguments in the thread about loss of yuield and something else....maybe my imagination

 

[Guest]

If ever you read about any kind of degradation,loss of vigor or potency,or anything negative about taking clones from clones you can bet it came from someone who read it in a book,or tried himself but did something wrong.Take ALL cuttings before 12/12 starts starting with the original seedplant and from every clone thereafter.My blockhead pheno is actually so much better now after close to 3 years of perpetual cloning its unbelievable.Of course my conditions have improved immensely along with my knowledge of course.Trust me man,no degradation takes place period if you stay by that one simple rule of never taking cuttings after 12/12 has commenced.Even just a week,trust me.

 

[Lofty]

I've been told the same thing james but i've been talking cuttings of eachother from a cutting i got 2 years ago and the quality and yeild r the same, in fact i get 1 oz per plant mor now than i did then. i'm not saying it mite not decrease with each generation but not on the strains i've been using.

 

[Guest]

I am saying it wont decrease with each generation,I'm as sure of that as I know this next bonghit of blockhead will make me cough my ass off lol.I get a full 1/2 ounce more per plant vegged the same length of time and the plants finish 7-10 days earlier than when I first started.AHAA you folks thought I was fullo bullshit lol,this was after I put in the co2 generator and controller.It really has made that much of a difference now that I finally have it dialed in perfectly.Only took 4 years lol.Seriously I should have spent 500 bucks on a cap ppm3 from the beginning instead of spending 100 dollars on a cyclestat timer that controls duration and length of burn.Wayyyy too much fluctuation using a cyclestat

 

[Guest]

howdy


like most above have said, yes!
also you can take a cutting with pistals, but is it is better to have them without. if for some reason you have to take cuttings in the flower stage be ready for it to take longer to get them to root.

its better to take a few more cuttings then you need if you have a certain amount that you want in your room.

also keep in mind for the future if you have a plant that starts to have problems or gets burnt and nothing you try seems to help chop her up into clones to try and save them. heres a pic of a saved girl.

as far as i am concerned clones are the same as the mom plant, they are in a none stop growing pattern and i havent seen any problems with mine or any i have growen even the one strain i had going for about ten years, well except for the fire that that killed it, thanks to a nail in a wire in the apartment at the other end of the building. man i was pissed lol

zigg
cottoncandy

 

[Guest]

Yea you can take a cutting with pistils,and it'll take longer to root,but thats not the problems I was talking about that may occur.Its been my experience twice with 2 different strains that when I took a cutting with pistils,or a cutting taken after 12/12,that if not on that grow,but subsequent grows the clones will not only be pistilly,but will have single bladed non-serrated fans and other funky characteristics.It may not begin with the first cutting like I said,but take a cutting from that and then another from the latter and somewhere sometime your plant is going to mutate into a pistilly rounded leafed freak-o-nature.The best thing about this scenario is its very simple to always take cuts in veg and use non-pistilly cuts from a mother plant.Not to do so would be just taking unnecessary chances if you have a special pheno you plan to perpetuate indefinately.

 

[johnkneefive]

thanks or all the responses..answered my question just ine.. thank you all so much

 

[Frogger]

cool

 

[Guest]

I guess I should add it's possibly a strain sensitive thing that happens when cuts are taken after 12/12,the two strains I tried this on respoded very bedly to say the least.Some strains/pheno's may fare better taking cuts after the "change" I dont know.One thing I do know,If you take all your cuts before going 12/12,you wont have to deal with the issue period.

 

[PassionForMaryJ]

I see your ? was answered, just thought I would chime in as well..

A clone is a exact genetic copy of the original plant, and to my knowledge it will never lose any potency or yield ever, if it does I am sure it would be so minute that nobody would ever notice..
I think when most have more buds, or less buds, usually that comes from the many diff variables the grower throws at the plant..
Yea we always try to keep things the same, but IME growing in soil.. It is impossible to keep each plant getting the exact same everything...

I have been taking clones from all my ladies a week before flowering them for about 5 years now, I do so a week before because if something happens to my clones for some unseen reason I know I can still get good cuts without having to wait as long for them to revert back vegging while trying to root up..

Not that you cannot take clones later on, I know a few that have taken them up to a month into flowering, but of course as suggested go for a cut with as few pistils as possible, which since the lady is only going to have been in flowering for a very few days then you should not have to worry about pistils, unless you have an auto-flowering strain, I have a Cherry pheno AK-47 that puts out pistils all through vegg, but she is still a heavy yielder, and a nice bushy/squat lady...

I do notice the occasional single blade leaves though, but those are mainly lower down on the plant & I think can be strain speciffic...