Jolly_Budz
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Pretty new to growing but I hear a lot of dislike of certain strains such as Blue Dream and I don’t know why. Wondering what other strains people can’t stand and why.
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Most disliked strains
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I don't think anyone would purposely grow anything they dislike really, there must be one reason or another why someone is growing something, it must stand out in some way....
Blue Dream is basically a high yielding clone of good quality, as far as i understand.... it's probably not as potent as others or as tasty, or pretty, or smelly etc.
There are so many aspects to a plant, that's why many people like to have variety, but maybe a cash cropping person wants something like Blue Dream because it's forgiving and gives high yields, maybe it needs minimal trimming and because people buy it.... BUT, to a connoisseur it may just be bland in comparison to other strains.
That may be why you see people saying it's not very good.... doesn't mean it doesn't suit a purpose somewhere for someone.
Jolly_Budz
New member
Very true, I still want to grow it as I heard it one of the easier cultivars to grow
ArtOfSelection
Active member
i see bluedream as an expression of human preference over hyperbole ............of all the recent supposed advancements in cannabis genetics and breeding, all the hype, all the wacky names .............its a simple blueberry super silver haze cross that dominates the American market ...............a cross than has been easily attainable for over 20 years ........... as far as personal dislikes, groggy indica's are a pet peeve ..........weed hangovers i call em .... a lot of kush strains have this effect on me
CaptainDankness
Well-known member
I personally hate growing Haze and sativa they grow like shit and I have plenty of energy from GG#4 or something that's much tastier, higher yielding, much higher calyx to leaf ratio.
Some people seem to prefer Haze, but lots of people drink White Claw.
Skunk#1 is pretty lame too, much better out there sure it's easy to grow, but you can grow an OG just as easily, why grow mid grade?
Some people seem to prefer Haze, but lots of people drink White Claw.
Skunk#1 is pretty lame too, much better out there sure it's easy to grow, but you can grow an OG just as easily, why grow mid grade?
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
Is there such a thing?
Brother Nature
Well-known member
I'd say it's more the market gets saturated with certain strains for a while so people get sick of them. Large grows care more about pumping out weight than quality so sacrifice the high for the cash and people get a mass produced product that doesn't represent the original clone properly so also get sick of it. People are dumb too, grow a killer blue dream and give it a trendy fruity name and it'll fly off the shelf.
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StickyBandit
Well-known member
I don't like Mazar. To me, it's a strong green taste, like smoking green vegetables. With a bit of a liquorice twist. In that it leaves a heavy aftertaste.
I bred some auto's that came out that way. I was gutted, but not surprised as it's just not a real weed taste to me.
Green poison never excited me, and when you see it's potential to mould, you have to wonder why people would do it twice.
Things that take 16 weeks... why wait that long. How special is it, to spend twice as long flowering it. Twice as good? really? I like a little off a menu, but not doing it myself.
Northern Lights. Simply put, I'm sick of it. I smoked so much 30 years ago, I just feel repulsed by the smell now. It might have a bearing on my dislike of Mazar.
I'm an evening/night time smoker. This means a large number of things are simply unsuitable. I like things that assist sleep, and that's a minority
I bred some auto's that came out that way. I was gutted, but not surprised as it's just not a real weed taste to me.
Green poison never excited me, and when you see it's potential to mould, you have to wonder why people would do it twice.
Things that take 16 weeks... why wait that long. How special is it, to spend twice as long flowering it. Twice as good? really? I like a little off a menu, but not doing it myself.
Northern Lights. Simply put, I'm sick of it. I smoked so much 30 years ago, I just feel repulsed by the smell now. It might have a bearing on my dislike of Mazar.
I'm an evening/night time smoker. This means a large number of things are simply unsuitable. I like things that assist sleep, and that's a minority
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
Most commercially available lines are so closely related its past funny. The main building blocks are NL/SK/ Hz/ Afgani.
I think most are weak or have an affect i personally dont like .
Saying that what i dont like 10 others will love and value highly.
Best advice for some one starting out growing their own is this.
Research lines you may be interested in growing look for as many grow and smoke reports you can.
Once you work out what you want to grow then my advice is research and get the seed if possible from the original breeder.
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
Telling us why you don't like Bd, would have benefited the discussion,no?
Something that I don't do, is smoke a strain until I get tired of it.
I thoroughly researched the stains I use but, more important I targeted what I use based on medicinal effects. Once "one" understands the interaction/nuances of the various terpenes contained, it is not difficult to find suitable candidates to add to your stash.
The thing I see the most on here is... where are the strains of the '70s/'80s which, in my humble opinion were cleaner. IOW, they didn't breed the shit out of them. Once again, IMHO there is a slew of breeders out there (not the renowned ones), that don't have a pea picking clue what they are doing. What is the purpose of "cross dressing" profiles (for the lack of a better word) when component A affects component B an so on and so forth. IMHO everything is about balance. "True" breeders know about this.
A lot of folks are after high THC strains, the higher the better. I am sorry... "ya missed the boat". You can either work with mother nature (who knows best) and develop strains that have profiles compatible with each other, rather than simply winging it. IOW, they have an idea of the "possible" outcome before they allow them to have sex and, then cull the phenos that don't meet said criteria. IMHO, Yin and Yang, balance is the key to good weed.
I rotate between 7 nighttime strains and 8 daytime strains, weekly, that is 56 delta combinations. Not dissimilar to changing how you work out at the gym, where every couple of weeks or so you must modify your routine in order not to develop muscle memory. (long story)
The strains I use is for targeted ailments, not necessarily the "flavour of the day". Although my med chart dictates the rotation as I am a Cancer and I am affected by the moon cycles. Every water sign is affected in one way or another, including but not limited to severity/irritability or, like mama said... what's wrong get up on the wrong side of the bed? I discovered this phenomena in '03, I don't remember how I stumbled on this discovery but when discussed with others (water signs), and when they started to chart their "moon feelings" would go "holly phoque", who would have known.
Good weed strains IMHO is the strain that gets the job done. Although my chart says I should be on x, y or z that week, depending (sometimes) on how I feel I will change it up and reach for "P" lets say. IOW you don't take a Tylenol for and upset stomach.
I have been medicating daily for 3 yrs and my tolerance has not increased significantly. I am still using 3/4g per day. My pills vary between 0.22-0.26g ea. I take 2 daytime pills a day (6 hrs apart) and one nighttime strain 2 hrs before beddy byes.
Some might find this over the top, but it is nice to go to your stash and select a strain that will cure what ails you that day.
In closing, every individual is different (body chemistry) e.g Bubba Kush is touted as a night time strain. It don't do shit for me at night and I use it as a daytime strain.
I am a med user vice a recreational user. That being said, I can target a strain for specifics even recreationally depending on which mood I am in and what I want to achieve with my high, and everything is about balance.
...CR500AF...
Active member
Man Chi i have got high hope for the the C99 i have lol. I have to say cannabis can definitely be tricky to find the one's that works for you, no one strain fits all in this game...
PS For the OP, Blue dream works very nice for myself...
Jolly_Budz
New member
It’s not that I personally don’t like it. Smoked it before and enjoyed it. I also am wanted to grow it atleast once. I’m just new to the game and it just seems that when Blue dream is brought up, it’s kind of laughed off. Maybe it’s only a few people. Really kind of looking for cultivar stereotypes.
Sunshineinabag
Active member
Opinions and assholes dude
what may not be good for some is good for others
I wish full disclosure could be brought forth to how many"breeders" got good bag seed and claimed eureka lmaop for real real
I come bearing truth
Sunshineinabag
Active member
Telling us why you don't like Bd, would have benefited the discussion,no?
Something that I don't do, is smoke a strain until I get tired of it.
I thoroughly researched the stains I use but, more important I targeted what I use based on medicinal effects. Once "one" understands the interaction/nuances of the various terpenes contained, it is not difficult to find suitable candidates to add to your stash.
The thing I see the most on here is... where are the strains of the '70s/'80s which, in my humble opinion were cleaner. IOW, they didn't breed the shit out of them. Once again, IMHO there is a slew of breeders out there (not the renowned ones), that don't have a pea picking clue what they are doing. What is the purpose of "cross dressing" profiles (for the lack of a better word) when component A affects component B an so on and so forth. IMHO everything is about balance. "True" breeders know about this.
A lot of folks are after high THC strains, the higher the better. I am sorry... "ya missed the boat". You can either work with mother nature (who knows best) and develop strains that have profiles compatible with each other, rather than simply winging it. IOW, they have an idea of the "possible" outcome before they allow them to have sex and, then cull the phenos that don't meet said criteria. IMHO, Yin and Yang, balance is the key to good weed.
I rotate between 7 nighttime strains and 8 daytime strains, weekly, that is 56 delta combinations. Not dissimilar to changing how you work out at the gym, where every couple of weeks or so you must modify your routine in order not to develop muscle memory. (long story)
The strains I use is for targeted ailments, not necessarily the "flavour of the day". Although my med chart dictates the rotation as I am a Cancer and I am affected by the moon cycles. Every water sign is affected in one way or another, including but not limited to severity/irritability or, like mama said... what's wrong get up on the wrong side of the bed? I discovered this phenomena in '03, I don't remember how I stumbled on this discovery but when discussed with others (water signs), and when they started to chart their "moon feelings" would go "holly phoque", who would have known.
Good weed strains IMHO is the strain that gets the job done. Although my chart says I should be on x, y or z that week, depending (sometimes) on how I feel I will change it up and reach for "P" lets say. IOW you don't take a Tylenol for and upset stomach.
I have been medicating daily for 3 yrs and my tolerance has not increased significantly. I am still using 3/4g per day. My pills vary between 0.22-0.26g ea. I take 2 daytime pills a day (6 hrs apart) and one nighttime strain 2 hrs before beddy byes.
Some might find this over the top, but it is nice to go to your stash and select a strain that will cure what ails you that day.
In closing, every individual is different (body chemistry) e.g Bubba Kush is touted as a night time strain. It don't do shit for me at night and I use it as a daytime strain.
I am a med user vice a recreational user. That being said, I can target a strain for specifics even recreationally depending on which mood I am in and what I want to achieve with my high, and everything is about balance.
And they think ur a nutjob dude wtf
someone needs to develop a package of flowers that's like a Whitman sampler of chocolate. Instead it's flowers with sev diff terp and flavor profiles....find the one that works best for you....then covet those terps...lets do this hempy...im a poor vermonter who could use 10k right now
Sunshineinabag
Active member
I personally hate growing Haze and sativa they grow like shit and I have plenty of energy from GG#4 or something that's much tastier, higher yielding, much higher calyx to leaf ratio.
Some people seem to prefer Haze, but lots of people drink White Claw.
Skunk#1 is pretty lame too, much better out there sure it's easy to grow, but you can grow an OG just as easily, why grow mid grade?
Do I see my new signature?
Switcher56
Comfortably numb!
Like I said your post was rather vague... I explained in some detail where I was coming from. Yes I meet some controversy, especially when I meet a young "whipper snapper" telling me where it is really at. ROTFL One size doesn't not fit all. I enjoy Bd
I am currently growing Ringo's Gift and look forward to trying it out, based on being a fan of AC/DC. The Spaniards love it, especially the nightclub scene, although it contains 25% CBD. AC/DC has 20. Folks shy away from CBD because of a bad experience or whatever. (wrong word but you catch my drift). Well, CBD is not created equal, IOW not generic. Everyone knows Cw (Charlotte's Web) It aggravates the living shit out of me. No wonder! It was designed (bread) to treat epileptic seizures. I don't have epilepsy. The guy that invented Ringo (name escapes me) knew what he was doing
It comes from a Haze pheno, Neville Haze AAMOF.
George
Active member
Just keep in mind, a lot of strains are renames. A lot. Like, A GOD DAMN LOT. Which means you have to take it with a grain of salt. When I hear someone say they don’t think loompa headband is a good og…well I know they either have something incredible in their garden that blows it away (99% unlikely, at best it’ll just be equal) or they just happened to grow and/or smoke a fake lhb cut (US clone market? Highly likely).
One of the guys who picked up from me would change the name depending on the quality of my run lol. I would tell him it’s a 7/10 and he would call it so and so and when it was 9/10 or 10/10 he would call it what it actually was or if I had too much of it he would make them 2 different things going out to different people lol. He’s a salesman, that’s what they do but imagine those people telling their friends that so and so cut sucks as their smoking buds from the same cut lol. It’s a dirty game, glad I just grow it and tell people the truth, what they do after that is on them.
With all that said, the worst strain I ever grew was “Fuzzy Fruit v2” from Motarebel genetics. It was absolute trash…BUT, I bought the seeds from Tee Aych See Farmer and to this day I’m sure he sent me fake seeds like he known to do. But that’s an example of a strain that got a bad wrap, but maybe didn’t actually deserve it due to possible rename.
One of the guys who picked up from me would change the name depending on the quality of my run lol. I would tell him it’s a 7/10 and he would call it so and so and when it was 9/10 or 10/10 he would call it what it actually was or if I had too much of it he would make them 2 different things going out to different people lol. He’s a salesman, that’s what they do but imagine those people telling their friends that so and so cut sucks as their smoking buds from the same cut lol. It’s a dirty game, glad I just grow it and tell people the truth, what they do after that is on them.
With all that said, the worst strain I ever grew was “Fuzzy Fruit v2” from Motarebel genetics. It was absolute trash…BUT, I bought the seeds from Tee Aych See Farmer and to this day I’m sure he sent me fake seeds like he known to do. But that’s an example of a strain that got a bad wrap, but maybe didn’t actually deserve it due to possible rename.
